Kylian Mbappe

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15 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:

Can u explain?

I now know that Ben Ramsey is a telegraph reporter. This means he must know that FFP is not applied on a deal-by-deal basis, yet his tweet implies that an individual deal can be examined, and should be rejected. FFP does not give uefa the power to examine an individual deal so neither of those things can, or will, happen.

Let's give Ramsey that he didn't mean it like that; that he was just using an expression and that what he meant to say is something like, 'Come on uefa, you know PSG is just messing with you and your rules now. Show some guts.' PSG are messing with the regulations. The problem is that loans, or temporary transfers as they are officially known, are perfectly legal and, as long as the costs of that loan don't take PSG over their allowable FFP expenditure, then uefa can have nothing to say about it.

FFP is assessed on clubs' annual accounts, not on an individual deal. Even then, the figures for any particular year are allowed to fail the test as long as the club's results over a rolling three year period balance out. What does balance out mean? uefa allows clubs to make a €5m FFP loss over those three years, but that can go up to €35m if the extra €30m is a no strings cash injection from the owner. Obviously PSG's owners will put that money in.

How can a club hope to stay within a €35m loss if they spend €222m on a single player? Remember that, regardless of whether a transfer fee is paid in full at the time of the deal, clubs are entitled to amortise, or spread, the cost of that payment over the length of his contract when reporting it in their FFP numbers. Instead of €222m appearing in PSG's accounts for 2017/2018 in respect of the Neymar deal, a portion of it will be reported in each of the next five annual results. That's €44.4m per year.

Even with just a slice of the Neymar deal to pay for, PSG clearly can't afford to add another €36m to their costs, and still stay within FFP. (€36m would be the annual FFP cost of Mbappe's transfer fee over a five year contract.) Setting up a loan deal therefore is a clever, and entirely legal, way to get around that. It means that, although whatever loan fee has been agreed with Monaco will appear in this year's books, the transfer fee won't come in until the 2018/2019 figures. That, in effect, gives PSG two years to sort out their figures. They might: -

Edit: I typed bullet points here giving examples of what PSG might do to improve their FFP situation but a glitch in the system has chewed them up. No time to retype them now but I may re-do it later.

PSG would not have entered into these transfers unless they felt they would find a way to squeeze them through FFP. Ramsey must know this. He can read the FFP rules just like I did and he probably has. He should therefore pass on accurate information about what it is and how it works. He could even use the position he's no doubt worked hard to reach, to call for a different set of FFP rules if that's what he wants to do. The one thing he should not do is perpetuate any lingering myths about FFP by tweeting silly comments like the one I commented on above.

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I now know that Ben Ramsey is a telegraph reporter. This means that he must know that FFP is not applied on a deal-by-deal basis, yet his tweet implies that an individual deal can be examined, and should be rejected.
Let's give Ramsey that he didn't mean it like that; that he was just using an expression and that what he meant to say is something like, 'Come on uefa, you know PSG is just messing with you and your rules now. Show some guts.' Problem is that loans, or temporary transfers as they are officially known are perfectly legal and, as long as the costs of that loan don't take PSG over their allowable FFP expenditure, then uefa can have nothing to say about it.
FFP is assessed on clubs' annual accounts, not on an individual deal. Even then, the figures for any particular year are allowed to fail the test as long as the club's results over a rolling three year period balance out. What does balance out mean? uefa allows clubs to make a €5m FFP loss over those three years, but that can go up to €35m if the extra €30m is a no strings cash injection from the owner. Obviously PSG's owners will put that money in.
How can a club hope to stay within a €35m loss if they spend €222m on a single player? Remember that, regardless of whether a transfer fee is paid in full at the time of the deal, clubs are entitled to amortise, or spread, the cost of that payment over the length of his contract. Instead of €222m appearing in PSG's accounts for 2017/2018 in respect of the Neymar deal, a portion of it will be reported in each of the next five annual results. That's €44.4m per year.
Even with just a slice of the Neymar deal to pay for, PSG clearly can't afford to add another €36m to their costs, and still stay within FFP. (€36m would be the annual FFP cost of Mbappe's transfer fee over a five year contract.) Setting up a loan deal therefore is a clever, and entirely legal, way to get around that. It means that, although whatever loan fee has been agreed with Monaco will appear in this year's books, the transfer fee won't come in until the 2018/2019 figures. That, in effect, gives PSG two years to sort out their figures. They might: -
PSG would not have entered into these transfers unless they felt they would find a way to squeeze them through FFP. Ramsey must know this. He can read the FFP rules just like I did and he probably has. He should therefore pass on accurate information about what it is and how it works. He could even use the position he's no doubt worked hard to reach, to call for a different set of FFP rules if that's what he wants to do. The one thing he should not do is perpetuate any lingering myths about FFP by tweeting silly comments like the one I commented on above.

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so,,can we pursuit draxler than??

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3 minutes ago, blu35_army said:

so,,can we pursuit draxler than??

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going to Dortmund i think.

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[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Had Alaba on toast all night. What a performance. Decision making is extremely impressive for a 18 year old.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

He's going to surpass very soon Neymar if he hasn't already. Hilarious considering that's why the Brazilian fled Barcelona; to escape Messi's shadow. 

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Had Alaba on toast all night. What a performance. Decision making is extremely impressive for a 18 year old.

This. I watched him against England, and his decision making was the one that impressed me the most. He is not raw at all, he is a ready superstar

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He is better than Messi at 18years if he can stay injury free who knows how good he become but i remeber guys like Alex Pato at that age so there are no guarantees 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

All the hazard money on this boy please

[Special Juan 28,096]

No chance. He is a baby and world class one at that, he is an absolute joy to watch this kid.

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11 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

All the hazard money on this boy please

We would still need 200m more. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

If he could become absolutely clinical infront of goal he will be the best player in tbe world in the next 2 or 3 years easily. He can easy get to a level where hes scoring 40 goals a season minimum.

Also on another note, unrelated to his performance, regarding his donations towards kickstarting the searches for Sala and the pilot David (forgot his surname)'s bodies, this guy is an absolutely brilliant young man and should be applauded. As well as that he also gave his world cup winning fee away to help people less fortunate than him. Brilliant gestures and for a guy, who is still only 20, it shows exactly the sort of man he is. 

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12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

We would still need 200m more. 

Maybe £250m more, if we end up getting £50m plus Kovacic for Eden, Mbappe could go as high as £300m

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14 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

We would still need 200m more. 

Ok, all the hazard money and whatever else can be drummed up. Well worth it