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4 hours ago, BlueLion. said:

Great goal, almost scored a worldie free-kick, but let's not forget the fact he was pretty abject defensively. He just gets away with it more in a 5-2-3 because one of the three CBs can save his ass. 

And let's not forget the fact that we can't freaking score for months. If you can't freaking score, unless you have worldie defense you will concede. 

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Just now, Mana said:

For now. His goal-scoring run will shortly come to an end.

Even then, his defensive abilities are still shocking. Still doesn't change that we need to bin him.

Lol, of course it will come to end but I don't think you realize that we have problem scoring for weeks now. That is a fact. 

How do you fix that? Add goal threat, alonso is one of them. He is bad defensively, so protect him with Pedro or Willian. 

 

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21 hours ago, Mana said:

For now. His goal-scoring run will shortly come to an end.

Even then, his defensive abilities are still shocking. Still doesn't change that we need to bin him.

We won't be signing two new LBs next summer so one will remain at back up, I'd rather Marcos than Emerson for that particular role everyday of the week.

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I have always been a big supporter of Alonso.  Yes, I get that due to him being slow he is a real issue in a back 4 but when we play 343 or 351 (which for me is also our best fit formation with the current squad) he is normally very good and more dangerous than most of our AM's. 

As for things moving forward, I rather see him playing than Emerson or Dave in the lb/lwb role. As for the Summer we obviously need a LB and Telles is looking primed, however Emerson has surely got to be the first guy to go as he has been awful. After that, I would keep Alonso to be LB2 as he would provide depth and give us flexibility to play the 343. However, if a good offer does come in and we can get Telles, I can see the club thinking we'll promote one of the young boys and have Dave cover both LB/RB behind James and Telles. 

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13 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

goes to show stats can flatter to deceive at times

if Alonso just had Azpi or Rudiger level pace he would be far more up my rating chart, but he is so so fucking slow, and it kills his defence

I have no clue why he is so slow, he is tall, lanky and both his father and grandfather (a SUPERB fullback for Real back in their 1950s peak days) were quite pacy

Marquitos, his grandfather

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I did not do update in a few months: 

Alonso starting in the PL: 

Games 11 won 10 draw 1 loses 0 Only draw came against Bournemouth 2:2 when he scored twice so not his fault he was let down by others.

Without Alonso:

20 6 5 9

This is with all the games. Even the ones when he came from the bench like Liverpool and Norwich.

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On 9.5.2020 at 4:10 PM, Vesper said:

goes to show stats can flatter to deceive at times

if Alonso just had Azpi or Rudiger level pace he would be far more up my rating chart, but he is so so fucking slow, and it kills his defence

I have no clue why he is so slow, he is tall, lanky and both his father and grandfather (a SUPERB fullback for Real back in their 1950s peak days) were quite pacy

Marquitos, his grandfather

Former Madrid defender Marquitos dies at 78 | Football Newsmarquitos-grande-060312.jpgAfter the Maldinis, who are the other families that span across ...

 

I think he is not muscular enough to be explosive and also that he does not really even try to go full Sprint very often, he covers an immense amount of ground so probably just not enough stamina to bust out a proper sprint. 

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Alonso really playing really well these last four League games if was up to me I’ll sign a pacey left back to offer us something different to Alonso, sell Emerson and loan Maatsen to a championship team. 
Yes most of his defensive problems stem from his pace, his ridiculous desire to play left wing when we are in the opposition half (and so is fucked when we get countered) with brain fart tackles.

Slow, gung ho attack leaves space behind and brain farts.

Outside of that though hes clearly our best left back. When hes focused he does well enough in the big games. Theres plenty of big games where hes far from a defensive liability. Even at United, city and liverpool. Good in the air too.

His major problem is consistency.


Did I mention he has brain farts?

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Got more Disciplined under Lamps. Did not go forward needlessly and only got outpaced despite being constantly run at by Mahrez and Sterling.

He will turn 30 between the years tho, we should definitely aim at selling him this summer. 

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31 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Got more Disciplined under Lamps. Did not go forward needlessly and only got outpaced despite being constantly run at by Mahrez and Sterling.

He will turn 30 between the years tho, we should definitely aim at selling him this summer. 

He is apparently on £110k a week or something. If that is true, he is not being sold as no one will give him that unless we give him away. For me, the Summer deal to do at LB is to sell Emerson and buy Telles.

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15 hours ago, King Kante said:

He is apparently on £110k a week or something. If that is true, he is not being sold as no one will give him that unless we give him away. For me, the Summer deal to do at LB is to sell Emerson and buy Telles.

One of our most stupid ever decisions giving him that contract. Emerson at least is just 25. But I could still see Barca or an Italian club being dumb enough to take him off us.
I don’t really understand tho why we needlessly hand out contracts this big for players who are so out of their depth here that they would most probably sign for less. 

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