Tammy Abraham

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15 hours ago, killer1257 said:

I don't know how many times you watched him play, but he never plays as a Target man and he played it for Germany and was horrible and that is why he plays as a winger for the German National Team. Even Gnabry plays Target man because Werner just does not cut it. He is too weak and not the most technicaly gifted striker.

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This is quite interesting, you’re right. Werner has played his whole top flight career in a two up top with Poulsen, essentially. Poulsen in some respects shares Tammy’s unique qualities, in that he’s tall and strong but also very mobile, pacy and hard working. From what I’ve seem/know it seems Poulsen can link up more naturally than Tammy but is less of a goalscorer. Tammy is naturally more of a goalscorer but the link up is something he has worked on/still working on. In either case I think both work hard on improving the deficiencies in their game. 

 

Anyway, just saying this as if Werner came in, it could well be worth considering him and Tammy up front together. 

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This is quite interesting, you’re right. Werner has played his whole top flight career in a two up top with Poulsen, essentially. Poulsen in some respects shares Tammy’s unique qualities, in that he’s tall and strong but also very mobile, pacy and hard working. From what I’ve seem/know it seems Poulsen can link up more naturally than Tammy but is less of a goalscorer. Tammy is naturally more of a goalscorer but the link up is something he has worked on/still working on. In either case I think both work hard on improving the deficiencies in their game. 
 
Anyway, just saying this as if Werner came in, it could well be worth considering him and Tammy up front together. 

Yes that is why I said that he is no Target man. It blows my mind away that these Chelsea experts in this forum think that he is better than Tammy as a Target man, which he is clearly not. Werner is a very good Second striker, but lacks in passing abilities (Werner improved his passing past couple of Matches) and physicality (which is not a must for a Second striker, but as a Target man it helps big time). I have seen him play as a Target man and he was horrible because of his defiencies. This guy plays Bundesliga and Bundesliga is not Anywhere the Level of PL, especially not in the physicality aspects of the game.

Having Werner and Switching to 4-4-2 would be an Option, even though I Really do not like having two strikers in front.
I prefer having one extra man in midfield, but that is up to Frank.

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7 hours ago, killer1257 said:

Costa was a Great striker but this is a Chelsea without Cesc and Hazard, so he would struggle scoring goals

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You can argue that Costa was the best striker in epl when he was here. That is the level that I am talking about. 

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Still think he can be our Welbeck.

That said if he is OK with such a role. 

 

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You can argue that Costa was the best striker in epl when he was here. That is the level that I am talking about. 

Yeah he was the best because prime Cesc and Hazard were here. They both have assisted Costa a couple of times and Costa benifited of that. Our strikers don't have the luck to play with them.

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Yeah he was the best because prime Cesc and Hazard were here. They both have assisted Costa a couple of times and Costa benifited of that. Our strikers don't have the luck to play with them.

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If you think that Diego is just an average striker and only good because we have hazard and fab then I give up. 

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If you think that Diego is just an average striker and only good because we have hazard and fab then I give up. 

Costa was World class back then, but he had Cesc back to help him. Have you seen Cescs passes to Costa? These were not average passes we are talking about.

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44 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Costa was World class back then, but he had Cesc back to help him. Have you seen Cescs passes to Costa? These were not average passes we are talking about.

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Fabregas, the best passer I have seen at this club, but take nothing away from Costa - many of those outstanding passes he still had work to do to get the goals, often times he did it brilliantly. Tammy, with prime Hazard and Fabregas, would have quite a few more goals I reckon.

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Fabregas, the best passer I have seen at this club, but take nothing away from Costa - many of those outstanding passes he still had work to do to get the goals, often times he did it brilliantly. Tammy, with prime Hazard and Fabregas, would have quite a few more goals I reckon.

Costa scored 20 goals with prime Hazard and prime Cesc in PL in his first Season.

Costa only scored 12 goals with a out of shape Hazard and a inconsistent Cesc in his second Season.

Costa than scored again 20 goals under Conte with a prime Hazard and Cesc.

Tammy has scored 11 without prime Hazard and Cesc and Tammy has still half Season to go. Tammy only received one Fabrepass this season and that was from Jorgi and he scored. People make it out that Chelsea is this World class Creative Team where Tammy has to score 50 goals a Season...
He is only 9 goals away from Costa and Costa had Way better players.

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30 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Costa scored 20 goals with prime Hazard and prime Cesc in PL in his first Season.

Costa only scored 12 goals with a out of shape Hazard and a inconsistent Cesc in his second Season.

Costa than scored again 20 goals under Conte with a prime Hazard and Cesc.

Tammy has scored 11 without prime Hazard and Cesc and Tammy has still half Season to go. Tammy only received one Fabrepass this season and that was from Jorgi and he scored. People make it out that Chelsea is this World class Creative Team where Tammy has to score 50 goals a Season...
He is only 9 goals away from Costa and Costa had Way better players.

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Costa was doing more than just scoring, he was a fucking tank. That pass to Willian in the City game was incredible, not even comparable with Tammy, I'd be shocked if he reaches 15 by the end of the season.

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Meh, some are over hyping Costa. Is overall play at times was atrocious, and notoriously went missing the 2nd half of the season. 

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1 hour ago, Nicco said:

not even comparable with Tammy, I'd be shocked if he reaches 15 by the end of the season.

You'd be shocked if he scores 4 goals in 19 games? 

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Costa scored 20 goals with prime Hazard and prime Cesc in PL in his first Season.

Costa only scored 12 goals with a out of shape Hazard and a inconsistent Cesc in his second Season.

Costa than scored again 20 goals under Conte with a prime Hazard and Cesc.
 

To be fair Diego scored a lot of goals out of nowhere. 

If you watch all of his goals you'll also see Willian, Oscar, Ivanovic assisted him many goals as well, probably same as Hazard. 

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2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

You'd be shocked if he scores 4 goals in 19 games? 

Goals in the last six matches 1.

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5 hours ago, Nicco said:

Goals in the last six matches 1.

IF Abraham goes 23 league games (he has went 4 in a row without a goals, and there are 19 games left) and only scores zero to 3 goals (which is what you are claiming will happen or you will be shocked)

we are FUCKED

forget top 4

forget top 7 more than likely

unless we bring in a huge goal scorer in January, which is not likely at all

0 to 3 goals in 23 games after 11 in the first 18 would be a historic collapse in form

I see an extremely small chance of that happening