Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 8 hours ago, quickpassnmove said: Two ways to simplify it: 1) we're currently over-achieving due to an excellent management team --over-achieving because we DO lack quality and depth across the formation -AND- because we are only in ONE competition currently. 2) we're not ready to be the side that can play how it wants home/away -AND- with a load of European matches added As for collapsing in the 2nd half of the season: it's possible, but I imagine we get some players in the January window. Tottenham, Arsenal, and ManCity still represent strong competition for the title IMO, but we'll see how well the Stokes, West Broms, Watfords and EVertons hold it together in the 2nd half; usually, they don't. You think we're overachieving? What I know is that Man City is extremely underperforming and all depends on them really. Their squad is stupidly good but the rest of the pack is pretty even. We're playing to our normal level staying in the race with the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Tottenham, Arsenal and currently getting upper hand on them but getting above Man City may be punching above our weight. We have two reliable sources of goals and have solid structure and I read on this forum sometime ago that's a recipe for success. It is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said: You think we're overachieving? What I know is that Man City is extremely underperforming and all depends on them really. Their squad is stupidly good but the rest of the pack is pretty even. We're playing to our normal level staying in the race with the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Tottenham, Arsenal and currently getting upper hand on them but getting above Man City may be punching above our weight. We have two reliable sources of goals and have solid structure and I read on this forum sometime ago that's a recipe for success. It is. I think we are performing a little bit better than expected, a win against westbrom and we have more points than in our title winning season and on course for 90+ points. Blue-in-me-Veins and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I think we are performing WAY MUCH BETTER than *I* expected. Never in my life I expected us to be in the position we are, playing the way we are. All merits to Conte. We are where we should be as a club, considering our size, but some steps above based on the squad we have. Despite the additions to the squad in Kante, Alonso, Luiz - as regular starters and the incorporation of Moses in the lineup, I still believe we have an average team with five special players: Costa, Eden, Kante, Azpi and Courtois. It might look like a decent number as this makes almost half the team, but really isn't. We have average players everywhere else and our bench is even worse. On his day Cesc is special, and Luiz has been playing really, really, really well. But neither could play in the best teams in Europe, and probably not even in the best teams in England. It is overachieving imo. Even more so than the title we won 2 years ago. kellzfresh, Johnnyeye and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said: You think we're overachieving? What I know is that Man City is extremely underperforming and all depends on them really. Their squad is stupidly good but the rest of the pack is pretty even. We're playing to our normal level staying in the race with the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Tottenham, Arsenal and currently getting upper hand on them but getting above Man City may be punching above our weight. We have two reliable sources of goals and have solid structure and I read on this forum sometime ago that's a recipe for success. It is. Your latter paragraph is absolutely correct. The PL simply put, is a Striker's league, always has, always will be. And ours is on fuckin fire. But we have absolutely no goal threat CM, none. Hazard and Pedro simply have to be a consistent source of goals if we are to have a serious title challenge. Costa has 11 goals, Hazard 8, And everyone else has 3 or less. And Matic, Kante, Moses, Willian, Cesc, are simply NOT known for their goal scoring. When we won the PL title two years ago, the top goal scorers in PL were: Costa-20, Hazard-14, Drogba & Remy (combined)= 11goals, Oscar = 6. So thats 45 goals from our Forwards, and 6 from CM. Unless Pedro gets 11, idk who else becomes our 3rd goal scoring threat, because we also don't play with 2 Strikers either. May just have to hope Costa stays healthy and is put in a position to net 30 goals. Which would be a Herculean effort from him, but not out of the question. Dybala/Griezmann needed immediately in the summer. Or some other WC option to play RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 20 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said: You have way more confidence than me brother. I still feel like we'll implode sometime come February/March, and this season will mirror the 2013/14 Season with City winning out in the end. On 08/12/2016 at 0:25 PM, Leif said: On a few rival forums, I kept reading Guardiola was the better manager in our bout, because they dominated the game per say. But truly, the team which changes their formation just so they can compete with you, kinda loses by default. When they literally lose, that's compounded. It IS part of being a great coach, knowing when to park the bus, knowing when not to take the game to a team. It takes confidence to be reserved. Guardiola showed no confidence by throwing the kitchen sink at us, it simply showed his desperation and lack of belief in his usual team when up against us. We're the team to beat, and I can't picture us not winning the league. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2365753/chelsea-transfer-news-andrea-pirlo-antonio-conte-cobham-fans/ Pirlo visited Cobham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,577 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Fernando and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Change of mentality. I like it more when our strikers get awards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said: Your latter paragraph is absolutely correct. The PL simply put, is a Striker's league, always has, always will be. And ours is on fuckin fire. But we have absolutely no goal threat CM, none. what team has a threat for goals from CM? Liverpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 We are overachieving a bit, yes. But, we don't even need to be the best, we just need to be better than others, at least for this season. M City - Team in depression, mentality problems, results nowhere to be seen, awful defense with even worse goalkeeper, suspensions. Insecurity all over the place. Liverpool - Clearly lacking of quality in many areas, a lot more than we do. Don't even know how they got so far with players they have. Team that relies heavily on pressing, scoring a lot and Klopp's great tactics. Still don't know the name of their goalkeeper. Arsenal - They strike me as the most serious title contenders, actually. Team is together for a long time, they brought Xaka and Mustafi, they are scoring at will. For now I see only them finishing above us. But, it's Arsenal, and it's Wenger. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 The day this happens is the day I will stop watching football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, BoyBlue96 said: The day this happens is the day I will stop watching football. WHAT THE HELL?! 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 In may, those Spurs players where after ours. The wanted blood. They started that whole fight in the game with making all those fouls and stuff. Our players reacted at FT, I would do the same. Aguero nearly broke David's leg. Back in the day when I was a 'baller, if an opponent did something to my teammate I would also react. Who wouldn't? Fuck the FA. If this is going to happen, I will stop watching English football and the English national team (already should've done that as they are utter shite). The FA clearly has a campaign against us and, IMHO, Mourinho simply because he's ex-Chelsea. Aguero getting a cute 4 match ban, Spurs didn't get shit back in may and the lads and Conte, after all that hard work are getting threatened by the FA with point reduction. Fuck those greedy corrupt cocksuckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 That must be some cruel joke. I'm already boiling at just the mere mention of this. #BunchOfTwats 11Drogba, BoyBlue96, Tautvix and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted December 10, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted December 10, 2016 Apparently, the person who wrote that article on the Mirror is a City fan. Probably still bitter about last week. Let's see if the other media outlets, journalists etc pick up on it. MefiX19, Tautvix, 11Drogba and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I did joke that us and City would get points deducted to help Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Tomo said: I did joke that us and City would get points deducted to help Liverpool. Or Arsene FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Unbelievable... But from reading that article which looks biased and maybe not so reliable, I understand the deduction may come if our players breach rules again in near future. Still shocking if it actualy happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 We are making our statement right here, right now! Take our points if you want, it won't be enough, we are going for title and we will crush everyone on our way Cmon boys, destroy WBA and make the league tremble even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 must kill this PL right now-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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