The Conte Thread

[manpe 10,861]

37 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Tuchel is the obvious pick. Young, progressive manager who wants to play attacking football.

We said the same about AVB.

 

1 hour ago, Chelsea4 said:

Look what Guardiola is doing with Man City,Sarri would be able to do something similar in terms of how we play Football.

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No he wouldn't, we don't have the players for it and our transfer policy doesn't suggest a change in direction either.

Last season was some of the most attacking I have seen Chelsea play, and it was under Conte. And it was more impressive considering he inherited a morally deprived team that had been taught to park the bus and nothing else for previous 3 seasons. Would your Tuchels and Sarris been able to do that? I severely doubt that, joga bonito idealists tend to be naive and leave the team exposed especially when there is not enough quality. Conte isn't an idealist, he's a perfectionist and will seek to make the team function with whatever means necessary and that is exactly what we need to make our board's laughable transfer policy work with success.

[Pizy 18,888]

8 minutes ago, manpe said:

We said the same about AVB.

 

No he wouldn't, we don't have the players for it and our transfer policy doesn't suggest a change in direction either.

Last season was some of the most attacking I have seen Chelsea play, and it was under Conte. And it was more impressive considering he inherited a morally deprived team that had been taught to park the bus and nothing else for previous 3 seasons. Would your Tuchels and Sarris been able to do that? I severely doubt that, joga bonito idealists tend to be naive and leave the team exposed especially when there is not enough quality. Conte isn't an idealist, he's a perfectionist and will seek to make the team function with whatever means necessary.

AVB is/was an arrogant prick, though. Was never going to work. 

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

AVB is/was an arrogant prick, though. Was never going to work. 

Hindsight smarts. Who's to say we wouldn't be saying the same about Tuchel in hindsight?

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

27 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Some fans clearly show the downside of our club being bought by a billionaire.  ''I want, I want, its not fair, we're crap, Mummy !!''

For me I am quite happy with all the silverware, and last night being our 22nd semi final in 10 years

Quite right FB up until 97 the only silverware I'd seen us win were the second division twice and the Full Members and Zenith Data. Mind you great days out and monumental piss ups.

[Fulham Broadway 17,309]

I think its odds on Conte wont be around for long.

It's just the way Abramovich and the board do things. For Arsenal one manager for 20 odd years, but many Chelsea fans have now come round to the fact, however distasteful, that a revolving managerial door brings success. Cant see the policy changing.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I think it's more likely than not that Conte leaves this summer. I just don't want Allegri to replace him as rumors suggest. Simeone I'd pass on as well just because although he's brilliant, he's too Mourinho-like for my taste. Tuchel is the obvious pick. Young, progressive manager who wants to play attacking football.

Tuchel did a really good job at Dortmund, but  they parted company because he fell out with the board.  I'm not sure he'd work here.

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I think it's more likely than not that Conte leaves this summer. I just don't want Allegri to replace him as rumors suggest. Simeone I'd pass on as well just because although he's brilliant, he's too Mourinho-like for my taste. Tuchel is the obvious pick. Young, progressive manager who wants to play attacking football.

"Tuchel is the obvious pick. Young, progressive manager who wants to play attacking football" but doesn't know how to organize a proper defence. Before anyone further bangs the drum about Tuchel, I'd suggest you go watch his Dortmund side defend. Error prone and there's stupid mistakes in every game.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

54 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think its odds on Conte wont be around for long.

It's just the way Abramovich and the board do things. For Arsenal one manager for 20 odd years, but many Chelsea fans have now come round to the fact, however distasteful, that a revolving managerial door brings success. Cant see the policy changing.

Just a shame that it brings success for usually 2 seasons only.

[Tomo 21,751]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

"Tuchel is the obvious pick. Young, progressive manager who wants to play attacking football" but doesn't know how to organize a proper defence. Before anyone further bangs the drum about Tuchel, I'd suggest you go watch his Dortmund side defend. Error prone and there's stupid mistakes in every game.

The one thing Tuchel will have here is two excellent defenders in Azpi and Christensen (and Kante infront) that not even he could turn to error phrone messes. I don't actually want him, just putting that out there.

[Fulham Broadway 17,309]

25 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Just a shame that it brings success for usually 2 seasons only.

Yup well it would be boring to have permanent success 

[Pizy 18,888]

41 minutes ago, Tomo said:

The one thing Tuchel will have here is two excellent defenders in Azpi and Christensen (and Kante infront) that not even he could turn to error phrone messes. I don't actually want him, just putting that out there.

What I was going to say. He didn't have the defenders we have nor did he have N'Golo Kante. Again, ideally Conte stays. If not I don't want another manager who is safety/hard to beat first and foremost like Mourinho or Simeone.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

46 minutes ago, Tomo said:

The one thing Tuchel will have here is two excellent defenders in Azpi and Christensen (and Kante infront) that not even he could turn to error phrone messes. I don't actually want him, just putting that out there.

Wouldn't dare fate like that mate.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

27 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yup well it would be boring to have permanent success 

Guess always exciting to see who the manager will be and guess how long they'll stay for.. 

[11Drogba 2,000]

You guys think Tuchel's Dortmund conceded three goals against Hamburg because he did not have Azpi and Christiansen? He had Hummels and he scored an own goal that game.

 

[Jase 43,479]

49 minutes ago, Tomo said:

The one thing Tuchel will have here is two excellent defenders in Azpi and Christensen (and Kante infront) that not even he could turn to error phrone messes. I don't actually want him, just putting that out there.

On paper, he shouldn't. But I wouldn't put it past an idealist manager like Tuchel. City didn't exactly have great defenders when he came in but remember what Guardiola did with his side, defensively, last season? Remember the defensive mess under AVB? Unless we go back to our 2011, 2012 transfer approach, putting Tuchel with the current squad would be suicidal.