Costa19 858 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,964 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said: On 20. 8. 2016 at 9:58 PM, xPetrCechx said: translate it to english next time please. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, milan.cech said: i translated it on the previous page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, milan.cech said: Lol yeah forgot to add a translation... but imo : CFC a transmis une offre de 42M€ bonus inclus pour Alessio Romagnoli ! , everyone can understand it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,964 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, oldportblue said: i translated it on the previous page Thank you for that but that was not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, milan.cech said: Thank you for that but that was not the point. oh ok I thought you were still waiting on the translation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Really don't understand this. Loan out Christensen and bring in Romagnoli? Romagnoli wasn't even good last season. Chelsea have no need for a developing CB. They already have two in the ranks. The team needs a player in the centre who will perform now, not later. But if you're going to buy a young developing CB, buy one who just came off a strong season because he's joining a mess of a defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, DYC. said: But if you're going to buy a young developing CB, buy one who just came off a strong season because he's joining a mess of a defence. Do you have a player in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, AK-3001 said: Do you have a player in mind? I'd rather not buy a a CB in development but young defenders like Leverkussen's Tah and Hoffenheim's Sule showed a lot of promise. Same goes for Umtiti and Bailly, of course they've already been poached. Gimenez and Marquinhos are also players who have shown great potential over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, DYC. said: I'd rather not buy a a CB in development but young defenders like Leverkussen's Tah and Hoffenheim's Sule showed a lot of promise. Same goes for Umtiti and Bailly, of course they've already been poached. Gimenez and Marquinhos are also players who have shown great potential over the past few years. Then again, how many are in the market? Umtiti was already snapped up by Barcelona and Bailly by Mourinho. Tah and Sule aren't in the market right now. I am not sure at all about Marquinhos cause he doesn't seem to have the physicality of the Premier League. Gimenez, honestly, I have not seen him play so much, but he was praised for his performances last season and if he is in the market, he is definitely one to look at, although I don't see Simeone selling any of his talented young players so easily. Romagnoli on the other hand has a lot of potential, he is being touted as the next big thing in Italy and we know how Italians defend and what expectations they have from their defenders. Also, he is only 21. I won't avoid signing him just because his team didn't perform well in Serie A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, AK-3001 said: Then again, how many are in the market? Umtiti was already snapped up by Barcelona and Bailly by Mourinho. Tah and Sule aren't in the market right now. I am not sure at all about Marquinhos cause he doesn't seem to have the physicality of the Premier League. Gimenez, honestly, I have not seen him play so much, but he was praised for his performances last season and if he is in the market, he is definitely one to look at, although I don't see Simeone selling any of his talented young players so easily. Romagnoli on the other hand has a lot of potential, he is being touted as the next big thing in Italy and we know how Italians defend and what expectations they have from their defenders. Also, he is only 21. I won't avoid signing him just because his team didn't perform well in Serie A. No one is in the market. That's been the story of the summer. Money talks in the end. That's the thing. Chelsea already possess two next big things in Zouma and Christensen. And again, why send him on loan to bring in Romagnoli? I can already imagine Romagnoli joining and most likely struggling to impress and failing to improve Chelsea's defence. One group will say 'oh he's young, he needs time to adjust, it's his team mates fault he's struggling', while another group will call him overrated, a flop and a stupid purchase. Of course there's a chance he'd join and impress but the odds are against him. Chelsea need someone who will perform now. If that player isn't available, you have to be patient. No point in buying for the sake of buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 @xPetrCechx sry, Peets, the source was Romano. I just hope this deal is accepted/rejected fast so we don't lose out on Maksimovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 21 minutes ago, DYC. said: No one is in the market. That's been the story of the summer. Money talks in the end. That's the thing. Chelsea already possess two next big things in Zouma and Christensen. And again, why send him on loan to bring in Romagnoli? I can already imagine Romagnoli joining and most likely struggling to impress and failing to improve Chelsea's defence. One group will say 'oh he's young, he needs time to adjust, it's his team mates fault he's struggling', while another group will call him overrated, a flop and a stupid purchase. Of course there's a chance he'd join and impress but the odds are against him. Chelsea need someone who will perform now. If that player isn't available, you have to be patient. No point in buying for the sake of buying. No point in buying someone young. We definitely need to have someone at the back. This is the same backline we had last season and we struggled, especially at home when teams play on the counter and our backline has absolutely no pace left. I just hope we don't pull off another Papy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I really have hard time believing in this. Let me explain. 1) Last year Chelsea were in the hunt for CB as well. Tell me how Cfc weren't after him when they were in talks with Roma about Salah. The same Roma that were actively trying to sell Romagnoli. If Chelsea rated him, they would sign him off Roma, easy deal. Did he has some stellar season that changed Chelsea opinion on him ? No. So maybe the coach has influence here ? 2) Ah, the coach. The same that was ommiting him every time in his selection ? Even Daniele Rugani who barely played had call-ups ahead of him. 3) Isn't timing a bit off here ? Why so late, so rush, offers increased at such pace ? These are competitive people that are dealing with these matters, they have everything planned and calculated, it all seems unnatural. For me it looks like a hoax, someone is leaking about those "offers". A good way to show to Napoli "Hey, you don't want our money, someone else will fancy them". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: I really have hard time believing in this. Let me explain. 1) Last year Chelsea were in the hunt for CB as well. Tell me how Cfc weren't after him when they were in talks with Roma about Salah. The same Roma that were actively trying to sell Romagnoli. If Chelsea rated him, they would sign him off Roma, easy deal. Did he has some stellar season that changed Chelsea opinion on him ? No. So maybe the coach has influence here ? 2) Ah, the coach. The same that was ommiting him every time in his selection ? Even Daniele Rugani who barely played had call-ups ahead of him. 3) Isn't timing a bit off here ? Why so late, so rush, offers increased at such pace ? These are competitive people that are dealing with these matters, they have everything planned and calculated, it all seems unnatural. For me it looks like a hoax, someone is leaking about those "offers". A good way to show to Napoli "Hey, you don't want our money, someone else will fancy them". Too many good sources to be calling it a Hoax honestly. Telegraph nailed it for me that we are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 35 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: Too many good sources to be calling it a Hoax honestly. Telegraph nailed it for me that we are interested. Just because someone told them, perhaps someone well-connected at Chelsea, doesn't make it so. If you're going to engage in a hoax you have to start by making it convincing. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Just because someone told them, perhaps someone well-connected at Chelsea, doesn't make it so. If you're going to engage in a hoax you have to start by making convincing. :-) Could be, but I honestly don't think these bids are a hoax, until someone from Milan comes out to say they haven't received any bids yet. I think Koulibaly saga is done and we won't get him in this window, unless of course, by some miracle we manage to sign him this week. Whatever the case may be, I am dreading the fact that we have Cahill, Terry and Ivanovic as our preferred defenders still and in case we don't sign someone in this window, Hazard and Costa and co will have a lot of pressure to score, because I genuinely don't see us doing any good at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,092 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: Could be, but I honestly don't think these bids are a hoax, until someone from Milan comes out to say they haven't received any bids yet. I think Koulibaly saga is done and we won't get him in this window, unless of course, by some miracle we manage to sign him this week. Whatever the case may be, I am dreading the fact that we have Cahill, Terry and Ivanovic as our preferred defenders still and in case we don't sign someone in this window, Hazard and Costa and co will have a lot of pressure to score, because I genuinely don't see us doing any good at the back. Well we can't know but, right or wrong, I thought BCS made an interesting argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Blue Colored Sky said: I really have hard time believing in this. Let me explain. 1) Last year Chelsea were in the hunt for CB as well. Tell me how Cfc weren't after him when they were in talks with Roma about Salah. The same Roma that were actively trying to sell Romagnoli. If Chelsea rated him, they would sign him off Roma, easy deal. Did he has some stellar season that changed Chelsea opinion on him ? No. So maybe the coach has influence here ? 2) Ah, the coach. The same that was ommiting him every time in his selection ? Even Daniele Rugani who barely played had call-ups ahead of him. 3) Isn't timing a bit off here ? Why so late, so rush, offers increased at such pace ? These are competitive people that are dealing with these matters, they have everything planned and calculated, it all seems unnatural. For me it looks like a hoax, someone is leaking about those "offers". A good way to show to Napoli "Hey, you don't want our money, someone else will fancy them". You are reading too much into this. The reason Conte went for Rugani and even Ogbonna instead of Romagnoli was because the former two were already used to playing with the Italian BBC and more importantly playing in a 3-5-2. That's it and nothing more. People need to realize it's far too late in the transfer window for Chelsea to use a 'hoax'. I believe it's more the case of Chelsea hurrying up the process so that in case of a complete rejection they have enough time to pursue the next alternative, Maksimovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuudiGullit 112 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 The Chinese owners of AC Milan have rejected our new offer and will block any new offer coming from Chelsea. Chelstransfer on Twitter and many others reporting it. At the same time Napoli is improving their bid for Maksimovic. So in the end, Chelsea will be standing in the corner of the room crying with empty hands. Haha. People slamming me yesterday because I already warned for this and now it's actually happening. Get ready for more Cahill and Ivanovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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