Rumoured Alex Teixeira

[manpe 10,861]

No doubt this is part of China's masterplan to take over as the world's leading power. Only nearly retired people go to the States while China is snapping up players in their prime.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

5 minutes ago, manpe said:

No doubt this is part of China's masterplan to take over as the world's leading power. Only nearly retired people go to the States while China is snapping up players in their prime.

Yeap... More Money...

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3432473/Alex-Teixeira-seals-35m-Jiangsu-Suning-Chinese-beat-Liverpool-Shakhtar-Donetsk-star-s-signature.html

Done.

[Fernando 6,484]

17 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3432473/Alex-Teixeira-seals-35m-Jiangsu-Suning-Chinese-beat-Liverpool-Shakhtar-Donetsk-star-s-signature.html

Done.

Wow, that's insane.

Let's hope they come and raid us.

[Beepu 1,714]

Financially, it would be stupid not to move to China. In China(or anywhere in Asia for that matter) when you are rich, you live like a king and can even live above the law. But from a footballing point of view, his national team dream is probably shot. Wouldn't surprised if he moved back to Europe in about a year or so.

We should offer our deadwoods to chinese teams. Oscar for 50m anyone? Ivanovic for a cut price of 20m. Or both for a minor fee of 60m! Heck we might even throw in a free Falcao for you guys! What a deal.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

[Jase 43,479]

Looks as if he was just desperate to leave Shakhtar. I mean, first, he was constantly talking about how he would loved to join us. Then when we sort of pulled out and Liverpool became interested, he talked about how great they are etc. Now, a club from China come in and he's off to there.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Meh some players today have 0 ambitions...money doesnt ruin football, people with rotten character and no ambitions ruin it.

[Spike 12,049]

Just now, BlueLyon said:

Meh some players today have 0 ambitions...money doesnt ruin football, people with rotten character and no ambitions ruin it.

It's rotten character to want to earn more money? Not everyone that plays the sport even enjoys it, some are in the game just purely they are talented at it and can earn a living through it. People have different ideals on what is 'success' and what is 'ambitious' just because you have different standards to them doesn't make them 'rotten'. How do you know that he doesn't want to maximise his earnings so he can do more charity work? Maybe he supports dozens of people back in his hometown? 

I'd gladly choose earning a lot in China over winning a few win cups in England. Why? So I can establish charities and fund missionary work in countries like the Philippines. 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

Meh some players today have 0 ambitions...money doesnt ruin football, people with rotten character and no ambitions ruin it.

'Ruin' is a strong term.

Is he 'ruining' football but going to league that's far more unknown than any other by adding his own quality? The Chinese Super League is a long way before it's ever taken seriously and so they're going to sign the players they think they can brand as a marquee right now. Ramires, Teixeria, Guarin etc are the 'giant' names they're attracting so you see their problem already.

The player in question here has made it no question he wanted to leave Shakhtar. Unfortunately despite his constant media flirting with Chelsea and Liverpool, he was priced out by his own club. A club feeling the sense of being 'ripped off' on the Douglas Costa transfer now trying to make sure they don't make the same mistakes on their own income.

So yeah, while he might have his eyes on money so what lol? In China he has the potential to be a small fish in a big pond and who wouldn't enjoy playing in such a situation where you are idolised.

Anyway, most players who do go China often end up coming back. See Anelka and Drogba for example.

[manpe 10,861]

I imagine that the players who do want to come back from China eventually, will find it difficult. The likes of Anelka and Drogba went there for free. Why would the Chinese clubs sell their players for a loss? I doubt any club in Europe would want to buy a player from the Chinese league for for example £40m that they spent on Teixeira (or even at a 'cut price' £30m or smth like that), who in addition is unproven anyway, moreso now that he collects rust in a shit league. He may want to earn more money for a short period of time before wanting to return, but in the process he fucked his footballing career over.

[Flavio 2]

http://shakhtar.com/en/news/37129

It's official...

[Cosmin 2,484]

If I was a Chinese rich guy, I would've rather bought a European club and invested in it. Why the hell would you spend so much money there? 

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

1 hour ago, Cosmin said:

If I was a Chinese rich guy, I would've rather bought a European club and invested in it. Why the hell would you spend so much money there? 

 

Proud people who want to make their own league great. They don't care about Europe, they want top football right next door.

[manpe 10,861]

3 minutes ago, johnnythefirst said:

They don't care about Europe

Recently I saw a VICE documentary about how Chinese hire white europeans to do whatever - hang out with them at parties, promotional campaigns.. hell, one hospital hired a random white guy to pretend to be a world renowned doctor, he recited an article from wikipedia to an auditory full of Chinese physicians. They want europeans basically anywhere where they want to appear prestigious. They are absolutely obsessed with Europe, the logic being that since European culture and economy is the leading one in the world, they want to adopt it and bringing in white people makes them look successful. You can live like a king in China just for being white, it's so weird.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Wow, once they stay there more than a year I will say it's very serious. For now it still looks like caprice of millionaires. The best player of Polish League moved there last winter and now is free agent after agreeing to break the contract. Drogba was back in Europe within 6 months. Let's see.

Their project is hugely ambitious. Wouldn't be surprised if top coaches in their good ages will move there soon.

And I mean 50 thousand football schools within the next decade are going to be build there, that's mad. Lots of changes keeps this thing interesting.

[Spike 12,049]

6 hours ago, manpe said:

Recently I saw a VICE documentary about how Chinese hire white europeans to do whatever - hang out with them at parties, promotional campaigns.. hell, one hospital hired a random white guy to pretend to be a world renowned doctor, he recited an article from wikipedia to an auditory full of Chinese physicians. They want europeans basically anywhere where they want to appear prestigious. They are absolutely obsessed with Europe, the logic being that since European culture and economy is the leading one in the world, they want to adopt it and bringing in white people makes them look successful. You can live like a king in China just for being white, it's so weird.

My cousin lived in China for over six years manager a telecommunications country. He said it's possibly one of the most racist places he has ever lived. Well, in his experiences anyway. I also know people that taught English in China without having those issues one of them is even engaged to a local girl. So it probably depends on the province and city.

Vice is pretty shit, take their documentaries with a pinch of salt.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On 4. 2. 2016 at 11:19 PM, Spike said:

It's rotten character to want to earn more money? Not everyone that plays the sport even enjoys it, some are in the game just purely they are talented at it and can earn a living through it. People have different ideals on what is 'success' and what is 'ambitious' just because you have different standards to them doesn't make them 'rotten'. How do you know that he doesn't want to maximise his earnings so he can do more charity work? Maybe he supports dozens of people back in his hometown? 

I'd gladly choose earning a lot in China over winning a few win cups in England. Why? So I can establish charities and fund missionary work in countries like the Philippines. 

Fair enough but I was talking about football ambitions only. Its great what these guys do when they donate to charities etc, but from football perspective his career has gone down now (unless he returns...). He wont have chance to play for NT side, he wont give try to play for one of top clubs. And he has all the ability and talent to play for PSG or United or Juve or Chelsea etc. He wanted to move to england, but eventualy picked china and thats only because money. That right there is zero football ambition. I understand players like Guarin, but someone like Teixeira should not waste talent in China. He wanted liverpool because they are better team than Shakhtar. Thats why he wanted to leave ukraine. To play for bigger club in better league. All nice and well but then goes to china...

Now dont get me wrong, he will have shitload of money down there and be superstar, why would he turn that down obviously. But then again, his football career as long he stays down there is as good as over. Players in past wanted to leave a mark in football history, nowdays too many pick clubs only for money. Where to get more money, not which club will they help write football history for.

On 4. 2. 2016 at 0:35 AM, LDN Blue said:

'Ruin' is a strong term.

Is he 'ruining' football but going to league that's far more unknown than any other by adding his own quality? The Chinese Super League is a long way before it's ever taken seriously and so they're going to sign the players they think they can brand as a marquee right now. Ramires, Teixeria, Guarin etc are the 'giant' names they're attracting so you see their problem already.

The player in question here has made it no question he wanted to leave Shakhtar. Unfortunately despite his constant media flirting with Chelsea and Liverpool, he was priced out by his own club. A club feeling the sense of being 'ripped off' on the Douglas Costa transfer now trying to make sure they don't make the same mistakes on their own income.

So yeah, while he might have his eyes on money so what lol? In China he has the potential to be a small fish in a big pond and who wouldn't enjoy playing in such a situation where you are idolised.

Anyway, most players who do go China often end up coming back. See Anelka and Drogba for example.

Yeah except Drogba and Anelka had whole career behind, achieved more or less everything and were in 30s when going there. No problem if someone wants to make more money before retirement, but someone like Teixeira should not go there. I believe with his great progress (and seeing how Douglas is doing well now), he could be one of better players in european top club.

Shakhtar fucked him over indeed, but the main reason he wanted to leave was to go to bigger club in better league, to prove himself. While liverpool and chelsea were cut off by shakhtar, thats hardly excuse to go to china because that league is quite worse than the one shakhtar plays in.

Like I said, no problem if one wants money. Its natural. If one offers you 10 mio contract, you would be stupid to turn it down. But then again, if you have amazing talent, if you are on peak of career, and with different mentality, you think differently. You will get more than enough money at any top european club and you would have chance to write history in football. Thats the difference. So many players lack that mentality and thinking nowdays.