The Chels 2,502 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 No I understood & yes we could of been a little more adventurous (allowing are flair players to negate some defensive responsibilities for a short period) however IMHO I think there were some fundamental reasons why José stuck rather than gambled.The lack of training/fitness to key players must not be overlooked as has the form of most of the squad, we haven't played well bar Swansea for over 2 months, so going to a very tough opponent in their own ground there has to be some degree of caution. I can understand fans frustration because this tactic has been accumulative over recent weeks & I can sympathise, however as stated I think on this occasion jose had some genuine reasons and that's why I get vexed with the spoilt brat mentality that rears its ugly head on here.You wanted us to be even more defensively vulnerable than we already were? It is possible, contrary to what we have seen this season, to defend in numbers (including the attackers) and maintain defensive solidity while still creating good chances going forward. We actually had neither (I can't stress enough how pathetic this is) a good attacking or defensive system in place for the nth time in a big game this season, so excuses like 'our players were tired' are not particularly valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Viper22 2,418 Posted February 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 19, 2015 Spoilt. That's what you all are.Do you want us to play kids in the first team?Do you want us to play attractive attacking football?Do you want us to abide by FFP and spend little money to get better players?Do you want us to win trophies?I personally want to win trophies most. As that is what will stand the test of time in history and will give the fans something to celebrate.For those of your that want 3/4 of them, pull your heads out of your arse, it's simply not plausible that we can suddenly morph into a team that can win everything with awesome attacking without spending any money and playing kids when 2 years ago we were in the damn Europa League and the season before we finished 6th!Grow up, judge Jose at the end of the season for how many trophies we have won and how well we have played over the course of the season.Of those options above we are fulfilling the last 2 and the 2nd will come in time I imagine. But if we ever manage to achieve any 3 of those 4 at once it will be an absolutely monumental effort by Jose, the board and our players. Liquidator, darrus, CHOULO19 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 but, but we re-sign Jose back mainly because we missed his attractive attacking football...lol, every Chelsea fans should have know no club managed by Jose playing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You wanted us to be even more defensively vulnerable than we already were? It is possible, contrary to what we have seen this season, to defend in numbers (including the attackers) and maintain defensive solidity while still creating good chances going forward. We actually had neither (I can't stress enough how pathetic this is) a good attacking or defensive system in place for the nth time in a big game this season, so excuses like 'our players were tired' are not particularly valid.Who said our players are tired? If you care to do some reading, I referenced our players hadn't trained therefore not 100% fit & if you read a little deeper I also stated that I do not buy into the bollocks of players being tired!I think I said 'I can understand & sympathise' with fans frustration it did I not?! But i also detest the spoilt brat mentality which is rife on here, last time I looked we are 7 points clear in the PL, a cup final & a good chance of making the quarter finals - again if the CL, yet your harping on about playing defensive & creating chances! Well yeah in an ideal world we can do that we can also go back to being out of the CL places, inconsistent results & prob fined by Fifa for spending shit loads on average players.Rome wasn't built in a day mate, I suggest you have some patience. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,591 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Here's something to cheer everyone up. We are 7 points clear at the top of the league with a cup final in 11 days.This place is like feeding time in the Zoo after a bad/result performance.I think people standard have increase like that of Real Madrid. For most Real Madrid fans playing crap and win is not enough, you have to play good. It seems like that is happening with some fans here. While I'm not like that, we can't negate their view. Interesting observation.Chelsea 2-0 West HamWe played some breathtaking footy completely dismantled and destroyed one off the most inform teams in the league, the post match thread had 4 pages, the Mourinho thread was barely touched.Chelsea 2-4 Bradford22 pages in the post match thread and the Mou thread in overdrive.PSG 1-1 Chelsea14 pages and this thread in overdrive.Says it all.I remember saying that who cares about the 5 to 0 against Schalke or Swansea. When we can do that against a team like Liverpool then we can talk about this team being something special. Until then is just same old same old. Sometimes great, sometimes average and sometimes bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) Who said our players are tired? If you care to do some reading, I referenced our players hadn't trained therefore not 100% fit & if you read a little deeper I also stated that I do not buy into the bollocks of players being tired!I think I said 'I can understand & sympathise' with fans frustration it did I not?! But i also detest the spoilt brat mentality which is rife on here, last time I looked we are 7 points clear in the PL, a cup final & a good chance of making the quarter finals - again if the CL, yet your harping on about playing defensive & creating chances! Well yeah in an ideal world we can do that we can also go back to being out of the CL places, inconsistent results & prob fined by Fifa for spending shit loads on average players.Rome wasn't built in a day mate, I suggest you have some patience.Lacking match fitness or fatigue, whatever it's the same thing - making excuses for the manager. I would be more than willing to be patient if there was any improvement in our big game performances or tactics but we've seen absolutely none (don't think Rome showed so little improvement after so much time and investment, do you?) We have no chance of winning the CL at this rate and will no doubt gift Tottenham a goal or five in the COC final. Oh and sorry for being disappointed when I see the likes of Courtois, Matic, Hazard, Fabregas and Costa in our line-up and yet still see us play with more fear and just as basic tactics against the big teams as lower league clubs show. Edited February 19, 2015 by The Chels MrBlueGuy and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I think people standard have increase like that of Real Madrid. For most Real Madrid fans playing crap and win is not enough, you have to play good. It seems like that is happening with some fans here. While I'm not like that, we can't negate their view. I remember saying that who cares about the 5 to 0 against Schalke or Swansea. When we can do that against a team like Liverpool then we can talk about this team being something special. Until then is just same old same old. Sometimes great, sometimes average and sometimes bad. Well doing it vs Swansea is more than the rest are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Lacking match fitness or fatigue, whatever. It's the same thing - making excuses for the manager. I would be more than willing to be patient if there was any improvement in our big game performances but we've seen absolutely none. We have no chance of winning the CL at this rate and will no doubt gift Tottenham a goal or five in the COC final. Oh and sorry for being disappointed when I see the likes of Matic, Hazard, Fabregas and Costa in our line-up and yet still see us play with more fear against the big teams than lower league clubs show.No being tired is in an excuse being made by many for players that have been played consecutively who are performing poorly because of it yet tell that to Hazard?! Lack of fitness is completely different, just look at Costa and Fabregas against PSG to see how far off the pace they were because they haven't been training or playing recently.Difference is, I do not expect us to win the CL, we are still very much a work in progress & for me if we win the PL its a massive bonus this season. We're not far away & once José has invested in 2 or 3 more players I think you will see a different mentality, not wholesale but more offensive but then someone will then start griping at that! darrus and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Can you Mourinho critics (some here are one step away from haters actually) make us - his fans and supporters a big favor?We're a few posts away the 1000th page on this thread. Can you spare us of your presence completely on page 1000th?The Special One deserves support and praise for the landmark in this forum and you sure don't know how to provide it. We'd really appreciate if you cooperated. GodZola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 No being tired is in an excuse being made by many for players that have been played consecutively who are performing poorly because of it yet tell that to Hazard?! Lack of fitness is completely different, just look at Costa and Fabregas against PSG to see how far off the pace they were because they haven't been training or playing recently.Difference is, I do not expect us to win the CL, we are still very much a work in progress & for me if we win the PL its a massive bonus this season.We're not far away & once José has invested in 2 or 3 more players I think you will see a different mentality, not wholesale but more offensive but then someone will then start griping at that!So what's your excuse for the City or United away games this season? There have been too many poor big game performances for us to simply put it down to something like fatigue or lack of match sharpness, which just so happens to be a convenient excuse this time. Personally I think your expectations are too low if the PL would be a massive bonus for you. Just look at our squad. We were so close to winning the PL/reaching the CL final last year, we added 3 La Liga winners (and CL finalists) and a WC winner, and you still think winning the PL with only 1 genuine (and inconsistent) title rival would represent a major achievement? No team will ever be perfect but we sure as hell shouldn't be as far off as our recent performances against the likes of PSG, Liverpool and City would suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So what's your excuse for the City or United away games this season? There have been too many poor big game performances for us to simply put it down to something like fatigue or lack of match sharpness. Personally I think your expectations are too low if the PL would be a massive bonus for you. Just look at our squad. We were so close to winning the PL/reaching the CL finals last year, we added 3 La Liga winners (and CL finalists) and a WC winner and you still think winning the PL with only 1 genuine (and inconsitent) title rival would represent a major achievement? No team will ever be perfect but we sure as hell shouldn't be as far off as our recent performances against the likes of PSG, Liverpool and City would suggest.Excuse! Your something else, I've already kin well told you to read what I've already stated, there are some games I will not defend but PSG was more than understandable, hard kin work or what!Tell you what mate why don't you ring José & ask him to bend over & sweep the the whole of the stadium with a broom up his arse & make sure he gives you the 6 winning lottery numbers at the same time, miracle worker is our José!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan92 217 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Hey, guys, we should follow Real Madrid's example!They play the best football, have the most attractive squad, won a domestic cup and champions league last season, and are on course to get the trebl- oh, wait. They're only a point ahead and not playing for their cup anymore?It's never easy anymore, for ANY team. Especially those that are still relying on aging players. iseah100, darrus and Viper22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,091 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 That's not the point. If Chelsea is nothing special ¿what it is City and the remaining teams? the english football is a shit, then. To belittle Chelsea as he did, Nasri directly discredited his own team.It is the point to me. Chelsea being better is what I care about, City getting better is their problem. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! xdottenx 20 Posted February 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 19, 2015 Mourinho is one of the best things that happened to this club, so stop crying. supporter, OhForAGreavsie, stroey and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! jocke_gbg 17 Posted February 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 19, 2015 JM best manager of all time! supporter, Viper22, Blue Colored Sky and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Interesting observation.Chelsea 2-0 West HamWe played some breathtaking footy completely dismantled and destroyed one off the most inform teams in the league, the post match thread had 4 pages, the Mourinho thread was barely touched.Chelsea 2-4 Bradford22 pages in the post match thread and the Mou thread in overdrive.PSG 1-1 Chelsea14 pages and this thread in overdrive.Says it all.it's in the nature of humans, people are interested in conflict, drama...that's why movies, plays, books are the way they are supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,591 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Well doing it vs Swansea is more than the rest are doing.Still don't mean much. Arsenal can have one of those days as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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