The Mourinho Thread

[The Chels 2,502]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:05, Jason said:

Our midfield options are not quite enough just yet it has to be said. It's still lacking the killer punch, that bit of extra quality. Take out Matic and Fabregas (and even Ramires) and we're left with the likes of Mikel, Romeu, Chalobah, Van Ginkel etc. It's not really enough.

Tiago and probably Khedira will come in.

[iseah100 5,612]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:22, LeChels_ said:

Tiago and probably Khedira will come in.

Gallito Vazquez or Hector Herrera:ph34r::ph34r:

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  On 18/07/2014 at 22:05, Jason said:

Our midfield options are not quite enough just yet it has to be said. It's still lacking the killer punch, that bit of extra quality. Take out Matic and Fabregas (and even Ramires) and we're left with the likes of Mikel, Romeu, Chalobah, Van Ginkel etc. It's not really enough.

We're also one injury away from Torres getting a lot of minutes again. We've had a good summer...so far. We still need another striker.

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The comment on the three Brazilians was right on the mark. It's not about worrying whether they're mentally shattered from the WC results, it's about challenging them to pick themselves up and use that humbling experience as a catalyst to re-focus, to dedicate themselves to rising above the disappointment.

@Jason above: I have a feeling we'll sign Tiago.

[Jase 43,479]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:22, LeChels_ said:

Tiago and probably Khedira will come in.

While signing Tiago will add further number of options in the squad, people need to acting like he's only 25 y/o and is entering his prime/peak year. He's already 33, well past his peak and yet the way people have been going on about him is like he's gonna be our saviour in that midfield and thrash every player we come up against.

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Wow. Some people just expect us to buy everything.

I'm amazed by the window we have had. We can't still expect after picking up one of the best strikers last season, one of the best left backs and cesc fabregas to still keep buying.

Come on guys be greatful for what we have got. Let United and Liverpool battle it out to massively overpay for players.

Sure if we get more reinforcements cool, but we signed 3 top quality players for value in this market... Offload some players for WAYYYY more than they are worth, and have enough young players to occupy a small town.

[The Chels 2,502]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:33, Jason said:

While signing Tiago will add further number of options in the squad, people need to acting like he's only 25 y/o and is entering his prime/peak year. He's already 33, well past his peak and yet the way people have been going on about him is like he's gonna be our saviour in that midfield and thrash every player we come up against.

I think the majority view is that Tiago will be a good, experienced squad player with leadership qualities. He's also been in the prem before and almost helped Atletico to a La Liga and CL double. On a free he is a great signing.

[iseah100 5,612]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:33, Jason said:

While signing Tiago will add further number of options in the squad, people need to acting like he's only 25 y/o and is entering his prime/peak year. He's already 33, well past his peak and yet the way people have been going on about him is like he's gonna be our saviour in that midfield and thrash every player we come up against.

I don't think people are upping him like that. He'd be a good signing for depth and experience. Not to mention he is still playing good. He started the CL final last year. He's a good signing, but by no means a player who will make or break the season for us. Fabregas, Matic, Ramires, Van Ginkel, Tiago, Romeu. Is a good, balanced midfield.

[Jase 43,479]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:39, LeChels_ said:

I think the majority view is that Tiago will be a good, experienced squad player with leadership qualities. He's also been in the prem before and almost helped Atletico to a La Liga and CL double. On a free he is a great signing.

Free or not, he's decent signing, not great. Will add experience and numbers to the squad but not that extra bit of quality, that X-Factor. Right now, there is practically a huge gap in quality between the duo of Fabregas and Matic and the rest.

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  On 18/07/2014 at 22:41, iseah100 said:

I don't think people are upping him like that. He'd be a good signing for depth and experience. Not to mention he is still playing good. He started the CL final last year. He's a good signing, but by no means a player who will make or break the season for us.

From what I've read (not just in TC), people have overhyped his potential return. Not saying he's not a good signing. He will be a decent one who adds depth and experience to the squad but that's all. He's not going to give us that extra quality in terms of depth.

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:41, iseah100 said:

Fabregas, Matic, Ramires, Van Ginkel, Tiago, Romeu. Is a good, balanced midfield.

It looks like a good, balanced midfield but in quality? Take out the first two (or three) players there and suddenly there is a disparity in regards to the quality provided from the players.

[The Chels 2,502]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:42, Jason said:

Free or not, he's decent signing, not great. Will add experience and numbers to the squad but not that extra bit of quality, that X-Factor. Right now, there is practically a huge gap in quality between the duo of Fabregas and Matic and the rest.

I think Tiago/Mikel would be able to replace Matic to some extent. We have no-one who would realistically replace the role of Fabregas at CM assuming he plays there, which could be quite a problem with injuries/suspensions. Then again if Khedira does come in I reckon Fabregas will play AM where he is more replaceable.

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Still we have to add 1 more CM and ST.

[iseah100 5,612]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:46, Jason said:

From what I've read (not just in TC), people have overhyped his potential return. Not saying he's not a good signing. He will be a decent one who adds depth and experience to the squad but that's all. He's not going to give us that extra quality in terms of depth.

It looks like a good, balanced midfield but in quality? Take out the first two (or three) players there and suddenly there is a disparity in regards to the quality provided from the players.

Well those people will be severely disappointed. He's quality still, and we'll be strong in Midfield then we were last year.

Besides Madrid which clubs have an overload of talent in midfield? Bayern? That's it.

[Jase 43,479]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:53, iseah100 said:

Well those people will be severely disappointed. He's quality still, and we'll be strong in Midfield then we were last year.

Stronger than last season but still not exactly without the comparison. I'm not saying that we should sign Pogba, Vidal, Khedira etc but just 1 more maybe, if not 2, that will bring quality into the squad. Tiago can do a decent job for us but not week in week out.

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:53, iseah100 said:

Besides Madrid which clubs have an overload of talent in midfield? Bayern? That's it.

That may be true but the point here isn't to overload our squad till the point like Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. It's about just making sure we have adequate quality and numbers in the squad and right now, we still are lacking that bit in midfield and even with the strikers.

[iseah100 5,612]

  On 18/07/2014 at 22:57, Jason said:

Stronger than last season but still not exactly without the comparison. I'm not saying that we should sign Pogba, Vidal, Khedira etc but just 1 more maybe, if not 2, that will bring quality into the squad. Tiago can do a decent job for us but not week in week out.

That may be true but the point here isn't to overload our squad till the point like Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. It's about just making sure we have adequate quality and numbers in the squad and right now, we still are lacking that bit in midfield and even with the strikers.

We could use more quality. Somebody just for extra quality should not be too pricey. Pogba would be out of the picture. Who would you recommend?

At striker we have Costa, Lukaku(hopefully), Torres(for what it's worth) and Bamford? Not terrible.

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  On 18/07/2014 at 23:27, iseah100 said:

We could use more quality. Somebody just for extra quality should not be too pricey. Pogba would be out of the picture. Who would you recommend?

Khedira? The more realistic option at the moment..

  On 18/07/2014 at 23:27, iseah100 said:

At striker we have Costa, Lukaku(hopefully), Torres(for what it's worth) and Bamford? Not terrible.

Not terrible...on paper. Decent only in reality.

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Suppose there's the possibility that we move for Tiago and Drogba to beef up our options, neither will cost so the 'spending would be over'.

Having said that, you can't trust anything Jose says...

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  On 18/07/2014 at 22:05, Jason said:

Our midfield options are not quite enough just yet it has to be said. It's still lacking the killer punch, that bit of extra quality. Take out Matic and Fabregas (and even Ramires) and we're left with the likes of Mikel, Romeu, Chalobah, Van Ginkel etc. It's not really enough.

That's a strange way of looking at things. Take out Messi, Suarez and Neymar and Barca are left with Pedro, Deulofeu + youth player. Take out Iniesta, Rakitic and Busquets and they're left with Rafinha, Sergi Roberto and Song. Take out Alonso, Modric and Kroos and you get Isco (out of position), Illaramendi and Casemiro since Khedira and Di Maria are on the way out. Up front, Ronaldo/Bale/Benzema v Jese/Morata/?

City without Yaya and Fernandinho are left with Garcia, Fernando and Rodwell..