zolayes 14,489 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 If this is the situation, I would certainly want Jurgen Klopp to be our next manager. Or Guss Hiddink. And no, I would never want Guardiola here.we should get Tommy Doc back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 we should get Tommy Doc backaye bute him up the bollox chopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Klopp is also struggling. Lost against Leverkusen and now again against Mainz. Already lagging behind Bayern. He also fked up some tactical things in the matches. So there's never a guarantee for a win. Atletico also lost to Piräus and drew Almeria. I'd stick with Jose over any other manager any time! kellzfresh and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I started to follow Chelsea in 2003, when Mutu joined the club and the Romanian media started to be really hyped about Chelsea. I was watching every Chelsea game covered by the television. I still remember that Gronjkaer goal against Monaco, I still remember the blondes (Gudjhonsen and Duff), the tank that was Makelele and so on. Yes, there was this spirit, there was that atmosphere at the Bridge that made me like them. But I was way too young to understand tactics and philosophies. And I completely disagree with the statement that Chelsea always played like this. Remember the second part of the 2008-2009 season, when Hiddink was our manager.Yes, everyone has their reasons for coming to love the club. The point I was making is for the majority of the clubs rich history we've played this sort of football. Hiddink had us going pretty good football but I'm trying to remember what performances in particular you would say were a complete departure from the way we always played? Barca at the bridge?The team you've come to know and love has always built their foundation on defense first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Klopp is also struggling. Lost against Leverkusen and now again against Mainz. Already lagging behind Bayern. He also fked up some tactical things in the matches. So there's never a guarantee for a win. Atletico also lost to Piräus and drew Almeria. I'd stick with Jose over any other manager any time!Me too and I never said otherwise. I said that I would choose Klopp, in case Mourinho leaves us (it was just hypotetical situation), because I like his style and I like what he did at Dortmund. He's struggling now, yes, but that's not the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Klopp is also struggling. Lost against Leverkusen and now again against Mainz. Already lagging behind Bayern. He also fked up some tactical things in the matches. So there's never a guarantee for a win. Atletico also lost to Piräus and drew Almeria. I'd stick with Jose over any other manager any time!so is fraudiola struggling, i would have liked hiddink to have been given the job. just the timing wasn't right replacing the mongs. the guvnor's back so it don't matter, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 so is fraudiola struggling Would be really pissed as a Bayern-fan how he fked up the best team in the world. Playing the both best wingbacks in the World Alaba and Lahm in midfield and broke down their beautiful attacking game to boring short pass play. I seriously don't know what is wrong with that man. Ball possession>Result seems to be his aim. ballackstothat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes, everyone has their reasons for coming to love the club. The point I was making is for the majority of the clubs rich history we've played this sort of football. Hiddink had us going pretty good football but I'm trying to remember what performances in particular you would say were a complete departure from the way we always played? Barca at the bridge?The team you've come to know and love has always built their foundation on defense first.Barca at the Bridge under Hiddink was a way better approach than Barca at the Bridge under Di Matteo, for example. You can't even compare the ties. But still, it's true that Hiddink had a better squad back then. This is another topic of discusion.I think you are falling in the trap set by the media. Chelsea is not a defensive club. We just tend to adopt this approach at certain points of the seasons and this is what bothers me, to be honest. But Chelsea is also the club that set the goal scoring record in the Premier League, under Carletto, for example. Chelsea won a lot of games by playing good attacking football, even under Mourinho. The fact is that most of the time, we are not parking the bus. We just do it on some occasions, but I think that we should stop doing that because now our team is strong enough to allow Chelsea to look like a balanced positive team against any opponent. We have enough quality to try controlling any game or at least avoid parking the bus, even if it's against Barcelona or Real Madrid. Since I'm at it, I would like to point out again that, as I said before, City are far from going through their best times, and we should've at least tried to take advantage of that, by playing with a little bit more courage against them. Imagine if we were 8 points clear now. All that enthusiasm and that joy. And the message that would've been sent to any other team in the League and Europe: we are Chelsea, we just beat the champions, we are 8 points clear top of the league and we are not joking about this. Instead, now people are talking about how we parked the bus at 1-0 with 11 vs 10... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Is the forum always this toxic after a draw or loss? kellzfresh and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Barca at the Bridge under Hiddink was a way better approach than Barca at the Bridge under Di Matteo, for example. You can't even compare the ties. But still, it's true that Hiddink had a better squad back then. This is another topic of discusion.I think you are falling in the trap set by the media. Chelsea is not a defensive club. We just tend to adopt this approach at certain points of the seasons and this is what bothers me, to be honest. But Chelsea is also the club that set the goal scoring record in the Premier League, under Carletto, for example. Chelsea won a lot of games by playing good attacking football, even under Mourinho. The fact is that most of the time, we are not parking the bus. We just do it on some occasions, but I think that we should stop doing that because now our team is strong enough to allow Chelsea to look like a balanced positive team against any opponent. We have enough quality to try controlling any game or at least avoid parking the bus, even if it's against Barcelona or Real Madrid. Since I'm at it, I would like to point out again that, as I said before, City are far from going through their best times, and we should've at least tried to take advantage of that, by playing with a little bit more courage against them. Imagine if we were 8 points clear now. All that enthusiasm and that joy. And the message that would've been sent to any other team in the League and Europe: we are Chelsea, we just beat the champions, we are 8 points clear top of the league and we are not joking about this. Instead, now people are talking about how we parked the bus at 1-0 with 11 vs 10...i'm not buying into the media crap cosmo, you fucking space cadet, you are. i don't think taking arsenal apart 6-0 last year was being defensive, and me and no one else is moaning about that. your the one focused on how defensive we are no one else.fucking hell we beat everton last week 6-3 and we weren't defensive enough now we come away from the etihad with a draw were too defensive. you just can't please some people. Cholo, zolayes and Chelsea Legend 11 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 i'm not buying into the media crap cosmo, you fucking space cadet, you are. i don't think taking arsenal apart 6-0 last year was being defensive, and me and no one else is moaning about that. your the one focused on how defensive we are no one else.fucking hell we beat everton last week 6-3 and we weren't defensive enough now we come away from the etihad with a draw were too defensive. you just can't please some people.I wans't talking to you. Calm down. I am the one who said that CHELSEA IS NOT A DEFENSIVE CLUB. Do you even read my posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Is the forum always this toxic after a draw or loss?wait till we lose back to back games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Barca at the Bridge under Hiddink was a way better approach than Barca at the Bridge under Di Matteo, for example. You can't even compare the ties. But still, it's true that Hiddink had a better squad back then. This is another topic of discusion.I think you are falling in the trap set by the media. Chelsea is not a defensive club. We just tend to adopt this approach at certain points of the seasons and this is what bothers me, to be honest. But Chelsea is also the club that set the goal scoring record in the Premier League, under Carletto, for example. Chelsea won a lot of games by playing good attacking football, even under Mourinho. The fact is that most of the time, we are not parking the bus. We just do it on some occasions, but I think that we should stop doing that because now our team is strong enough to allow Chelsea to look like a balanced positive team against any opponent. We have enough quality to try controlling any game or at least avoid parking the bus, even if it's against Barcelona or Real Madrid. Since I'm at it, I would like to point out again that, as I said before, City are far from going through their best times, and we should've at least tried to take advantage of that, by playing with a little bit more courage against them. Imagine if we were 8 points clear now. All that enthusiasm and that joy. And the message that would've been sent to any other team in the League and Europe: we are Chelsea, we just beat the champions, we are 8 points clear top of the league and we are not joking about this. Instead, now people are talking about how we parked the bus at 1-0 with 11 vs 10...It was better to watch but we were better than Barca then and the Barca against 2012 Chelsea was arguably the best club side ever. That is changing and has been long before Jose came back, we just haven't had a manager long enough to see it through. I'm not falling into any trap, I've been a fan long enough to draw my own conclusions for this club. Mourinho's Chelsea was built on a strong defense first.When you have Ashley Cole, John Terry, Cech in the best moments in their career you've got a platform to build from. And I don't know what you're talking about, nowhere have I used the words park the bus. What we are building an adaptable squad capable of playing in and winning any type of game we get involved. You mention Carlo's 2010 winner, do you remember getting our tails handed to us at City? or the game Utd outplayed us out home only for JT to rescue the victory? I'm talking about having respect for your opponent and knowing what is the smartest course of action to take to either secure a victory or in the case of the City game a point.Do you guys actually think Jose, with a 5pt lead, was gonna play as open as we were against Everton? Each game calls for different tactics. TheOneChan95, Tomo, robdog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 wait till we lose back to back gamesMOURINHO OUT, SACK ROMAN, THIS CLUB IS A DISGRACE I can see it now. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 man city got owned last year at the etihad, it should have been 4 or 5 nil save for the bar,post and dandruff boy. do you think that they was going to let us be first to every ball again? if that game was played in europe two man city players would have been off, they kicked the shit out of costa and hazard all afternoon. why cos if they didn't they would have got owned as they will when they come to bridge. pellegrini knows this .and so do the wenger boys watch what happens to arsenal in a couple of weeks. zolayes and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 man city got owned last year at the etihad, it should have been 4 or 5 nil save for the bar,post and dandruff boy. do you think that they was going to let us be first to every ball again? if that game was played in europe two man city players would have been off, they kicked the shit out of costa and hazard all afternoon. why cos if they didn't they would have got owned as they will when they come to bridge. pellegrini knows this .and so do the wenger boys watch what happens to arsenal in a couple of weeks.Finally someone who understands its not always about us! The opponent has ambitions too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 man city got owned last year at the etihad, it should have been 4 or 5 nil save for the bar,post and dandruff boy. do you think that they was going to let us be first to every ball again? if that game was played in europe two man city players would have been off, they kicked the shit out of costa and hazard all afternoon. why cos if they didn't they would have got owned as they will when they come to bridge. pellegrini knows this .and so do the wenger boys watch what happens to arsenal in a couple of weeks.You're forgetting about the FA cup win immediately after that game. Pellegrini already made adjustments, Mourinho didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 You're forgetting about the FA cup win immediately after that game. Pellegrini already made adjustments, Mourinho didn't. You mean the game we didn't have our best defender, our captain in? the one we lost our best striker in after 45mins? Ya no adjustments were made at all...We lost that game! We were 5mins away from winning this game! What are you talking about??? ballackstothat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roba3y 28 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 "Mr Pelligrino" gave his players clear instructions to prevent Chelsea from counterattacking by any means including chasing our players by hands, if this game was refereed by any other referee there would be two more red cards at least for repeating this more and more on our players...Willian has been fouled 7 times !!!even Silva has made this kind of fouls against us.. kellzfresh, Chelsea Legend 11, stroey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 wait till we lose back to back games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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