bushman 2,043 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Despite of Jose dick stories, I am still amazed to see Chelsea having a chance of being on top of PL soon.Look here. Citeh to whip Arsenal, badly. Chelsea to win their next game, means two points behind. Then Chelsea hammers Arsenal & becomes No 1 in the PL. :blue scalf:The more I read Jose & his excuses, the less I believe Roman will fall for it. Roman does not care for excuses.Either you win PL, or CL & not the domestic pots, if Jose does not, he is deemed to have failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Despite of Jose dick stories, I am still amazed to see Chelsea having a chance of being on top of PL soon.Look here. Citeh to whip Arsenal, badly. Chelsea to win their next game, means two points behind. Then Chelsea hammers Arsenal & becomes No 1 in the PL. :blue scalf:Only in our dreams haha Let's hope but I don't think it will happen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Only in our dreams haha Let's hope but I don't think it will happen..Of course, it will & easily. Think about it, added all up, come back on December 23rd, I will wait for you here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Has anyone worked out what identity he's trying to build at Chelsea yet? Ignore his words about young players because that's mostly bollocks, but focus one what's appeared on the pitch. What style is he trying to build?You look at the managers who are overachieving this season and it's the likes of Martinez and Pochettino, and even Rodgers who instil belief in their sides and play some fearless, distinctive football with a trust in young players. The more established managers like Mourinho and Moyes are underwhelming so far.The form side has been Arsenal who have exemplified fearless, skilful football with an emphasis on young players for years and are seeing the fruits of that commitment paying off whereas we look lumbering and old. Stingray, The Skipper, robsblubot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Has anyone worked out what identity he's trying to build at Chelsea yet? Ignore his words about young players because that's mostly bollocks, but focus one what's appeared on the pitch. What style is he trying to build?You look at the managers who are overachieving this season and it's the likes of Martinez and Pochettino, and even Rodgers who instil belief in their sides and play some fearless, distinctive football with a trust in young players. The more established managers like Mourinho and Moyes are underwhelming so far.The form side has been Arsenal who have exemplified fearless, skilful football with an emphasis on young players for years and are seeing the fruits of that commitment paying off whereas we look lumbering and old.yup absolutely right. Those sides also keep the football very well, something we haven't been able to do. lionsden, The only place to be and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I think the whole "Build an identity thing" is mostly BS. Or in fact just complete BS.The manager tries to win games with the players he has, and the good ones try and ensure that it can happen over a long period of time through youth development. It's not like Arsene has this year decided to play "fearless football". He has finally got a team which has many elements working for it. Has an exceptional midfielder with talent around him, and are benefitting from their consistency when everyone else is faultering.Liverpool aren't doing better this year because of some instilled belief. But because they have an exceptional striker who is playing like he is the best in the world (on current form), and the manager comes into it by employing a system to utilise those players.Mourinho just hasn't found that system yet, and i am 95% sure he doesn't know what our best team is yet. Got nothing to do with a supposed style or some instilled belief or idenity what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Let's hope Jose is actually looking for a CB, because only having the 3 is starting to show badly in the performances. He won't budge Brana from RB if his life depended on it and Kalas seems to be a 'break in case of emergency' back-up. I don't know about January though:£10m French bad boy Zouma heads Mourinho's wanted list for January spreehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2520597/French-bad-boy-Kurt-Zouma-heads-Chelseas-wanted-list-January.htmlI like this guy, but he's 19 and we all know what happens to players under a certain age at Chelsea...he could be Jose's new 'Varane project' though. And it's better than spending £35m on that Mangala; such money could be used towards a certain Axel Witsel...He's also been inexplicably banned for 10 games for a challenge that was more misfortunate than anything else: Would love Zouma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Has anyone worked out what identity he's trying to build at Chelsea yet? Ignore his words about young players because that's mostly bollocks, but focus one what's appeared on the pitch. What style is he trying to build?You look at the managers who are overachieving this season and it's the likes of Martinez and Pochettino, and even Rodgers who instil belief in their sides and play some fearless, distinctive football with a trust in young players. The more established managers like Mourinho and Moyes are underwhelming so far.The form side has been Arsenal who have exemplified fearless, skilful football with an emphasis on young players for years and are seeing the fruits of that commitment paying off whereas we look lumbering and old.This is not an attack on you or anything but seems like you have taken a complete opposite view of judging Mourinho all of a sudden. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is not an attack on you or anything but seems like you have taken a complete opposite view of judging Mourinho all of a sudden. The Lukaku comments bothered me and I'm severely underwhelmed with his performance so far. I still support him but each game raises more and more questions. I honestly don't know who this guy managing us is from what I see on the pitch. The only thing consistent is our inconsistency.Would love Zouma.Could be a good signing, but would he get in ahead of Distin? :eyebrows: The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The Lukaku comments bothered me and I'm severely underwhelmed with his performance so far. I still support him but each game raises more and more questions. I honestly don't know who this guy managing us is from what I see on the pitch. The only thing consistent is our inconsistency.I understand where you are coming from but it just seems strange that you get turned so easily when before you were quite adamant in defending him especially against those that questioned Mourinho. And the funny thing now is that, the doubts you are having on Mourinho now is rather similar to what others have had before and it was only like weeks ago. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 What pisses me off when I watch Everton is how when they don't have Baines playing full back - their full backs rarely cross. Why - simple it's a higher probability if your fullback crosses that you would surrender possession especially when your only aerial threat is Lukaku - so the safer option is to play the ball out of the flank into either the center or towards the corner so you either win a set piece or keep possession as opposed to allowing the opposition to regain the ball and counter attack. In the meantime every time Ivanovic gets the ball he attempts a cross - at who? We haven't even got a single aerial thread inside the box most of the time. We are a side that has players with great close control - Ivanovic/Cole/Cesar should never be attempting crosses if there are other options. The fact that it's December and Ivanovic is still doing the same idiotic cross time and time again seems to mean that this is something he is instructed to do(or not instructed not to do) and it just leads to us losing the ball. quickpassnmove and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Of course, it will & easily. Think about it, added all up, come back on December 23rd, I will wait for you here.No problem mate.. Let's hope you are right :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I understand where you are coming from but it just seems strange that you get turned so easily when before you were quite adamant in defending him especially against those that questioned Mourinho. And the funny thing now is that, the doubts you are having on Mourinho now is rather similar to what others have had before and it was only like weeks ago.I still believe that Mourinho is the right guy for us and that we have to stick with him and give him total support, but I'll admit I'm concerned about the lack of consistency. It's not just him that I'm worried about, but everyone at the top of this club. I simply don't know what it is we're trying to do.I firmly believed that we would use players like Lukaku, De Bruyne and Chalobah in an exciting new system but it's December and I'm still sometimes mystified as to what it is we're trying to do.But I think it's the recent comments and the petulance that have raised my ire regarding Jose. The schoolyard bickering with Lukaku was pathetic and not what I want to see from any Chelsea manager. I still think he's the right man for us, but that's partly due to the fact that I don't know if there's anyone else out there who is better (and available). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No problem mate.. Let's hope you are right :-)If I am correct, I will see you in Sarajevo for some brewskies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 How many games we already lost in all competitions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 How many games we already lost in all competitions?Too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Premier League: Jose Mourinho bemoans lack of Chelsea goals "It is my squad," he said."For good and for bad, it is my squad. Of course, it is not the perfect squad."I try to improve my players. But it is one thing to improve a player who is 20-years-old, which you can. If you ask me, can I improve Eden Hazard? Yes I can."Can I improve a player who is 30-years-old? How?"http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9065034/premier-league-jose-mourinho-bemoans-lack-of-chelsea-goals ----------This is total bullshit. He had the summer to fix some of the problems being known. He came back cause he wanted to give stability to the younger players. Those where his words, but so far he has gotten an F for that! He understood that he made a mistake that he didn't buy a striker in the summer.Maybe next Window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! AndersonBLUE 819 Posted December 9, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 9, 2013 He still has my 100% support along with the rest of the players. You either get behind them and enjoy football for what it is or mope and whine all season, which is all that's happened so far on this forum. Barbara, robdog, Blue Armour and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 He still has my 100% support along with the rest of the players. You either get behind them and enjoy football for what it is or mope and whine all season, which is all that's happened so far on this forum.Pretty well said.He's made mistakes but I still don't want anyone else in charge of us....I'm just impatient to see something taking shape. He just needs to get that one midfielder and I think the team will find some consistency. Maybe we are missing Oscar more than I thought because we looked like two seperate parts on Saturday (defence and attack), something that happened far too often last season. AndersonBLUE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 How many games we already lost in all competitions?5 in 23 games in all competitions - Everton, Newcastle, Stoke and Basel (twice).And you could probably point 2 of those losses being undeserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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