The Mourinho Thread

[Marvin123 530]

@bigblue403: @1RobBeasley Jose Mourinho will fly into RAF Northolt today at 11pm. Chelsea will announce him as a Chelsea manager tomorrow

[Hutcho 8,443]

People want to dispel his errors just because its madrid and thats very illogical, specially when your perspectives on real madrid are very equivocated.

If your response to his very real and great massive failings in player management, transfers, behavior, and tactics are all just ignored for the sake hes going to chelsea, then thats practically just being ignorant.

He has had a "bad spell" at madrid, which saw him win la liga against a barca team and win two other trophies. Not disasterous. In Mourinho's long career if thats his worst then big woop.

Put it another way.

How many better managers are there in the world. Not many.

[Martina 210]

People want to dispel his errors just because its madrid and thats very illogical, specially when your perspectives on real madrid are very equivocated.

If your response to his very real and great massive failings in player management, transfers, behavior, and tactics are all just ignored for the sake hes going to chelsea, then thats practically just being ignorant.

Do you realise many of us have been waiting for this for a long time? After AVB and Robbie getting sacked and replaced by Rafa we actually deserve to enjoy this moment?

Every day is a new day and I'm sure Jose is intelligent enough to be able to learn from his mistakes and move on. And I want to see for myself if I'm wrong rather getting all paranoid beforehand.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Lol

The its impossible not to be bias really, you'd know this if you read even the most simple of critical thinking books, the no spin zone i post for various reasons.

I try not to spin, im honest with that i see and ive given support and rebuttals and in return i have gotten illogical responses and rage mail.

i HAVE BEEN HATED and almost hanged here for what you say i will be loved for LOL.

Whats my purpose, to keep it simple, to keep my self from being bored.

Outwit you? I dont really care to "outwit" you dont worry.

@ Martina this is not getting paranoid, its an analysis of what happened, hutcho it seems you didnt read my first post, if you didnt and u want to go ahead and read it. With the amount of bs he caused, losing 5/6 real trophies is failure anyway u see it.

Big woop? Again you and many others try to give cheap replies that are a way to put a finger on it but the fact is that i have not gotten 1, not even 1 reply on his failures like purchases and tactics others than from shonex.

I tried to also add that the errors he made in madrid, hes made before in other places but people ignore the truth infront of them.

[Leif 6,006]

Going to get a lump in my throat when he's announced. When he was originally announced I was in bloody hospital and missed one of the biggest moments in our history. This time, I'll be ready, with tissues by my side (not for tears )

[Stingray 9,441]

Lol

The its impossible not to be bias really, you'd know this if you read even the most simple of critical thinking books, the no spin zone i post for various reasons.

Yes. You are a virgin. I would eat you alive on this one. Challenge me. I dare you.

Lets see who knows most about true critical thinking.

[Fernando 6,585]

Everyone makes errors. If his worse spell as a manager resulted in what he did at madrid, then im not even slightly concerned lol.

Well there is something else to consider, not every manager can be top for quite a while.

Two great example are Wenger and Benitez.

Wenger did amazing when he got to Arsenal but as the year went by well you know the story. He over stayed because of sentimental value, like the fan love him, stability and all that nonsense. All that emotions can blind you from the truth, that your manager ain't good no more. And because there is so much emotional connection there is greater support to hold onto a losing cause.

Benitez was amazing at valencia and did amazing at the first couple of years at Liverpool. But same like Wenger he went downhill.

When people talk about stability they think about saf, and for me that's a misconception. I think saf case was once in a lifetime. We might never see something like that ever again because the sport has changed.

So much money involved in the game that I think 3 to 5 years for a manager in a team is a long time.

That being said, with Mourinho horrible time at Madrid he needs to hit the ground running on his comeback.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Stingray it is obvious that you have been offended by my presence and apparently it is due to fear that i might bury you without even trying.

Like i said i dont have any interest in "outwitting" you in my sleep, your insecurities are your own problem.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Well there is something else to consider, not every manager can be top for quite a while.

Two great example are Wenger and Benitez.

Wenger did amazing when he got to Arsenal but as the year went by well you know the story. He over stayed because of sentimental value, like the fan love him, stability and all that nonsense. All that emotions can blind you from the truth, that your manager ain't good no more. And because there is so much emotional connection there is greater support to hold onto a losing cause.

Benitez was amazing at valencia and did amazing at the first couple of years at Liverpool. But same like Wenger he went downhill.

When people talk about stability they think about saf, and for me that's a misconception. I think saf case was once in a lifetime. We might never see something like that ever again because the sport has changed.

So much money involved in the game that I think 3 to 5 years for a manager in a team is a long time.

That being said, with Mourinho horrible time at Madrid he needs to hit the ground running on his comeback.

Look at arsenal's squad. Wenger hasn't gone downhill. Wenger has been the same all along and done the best with what he has to work with. Managers are only as good as their squad allows them to be. Mourinho is a great manager and with a great squad they can go hand in hand. "But Madrid have a great squad", i hear you say. True, but they have a lot of big names established players. We have a team that is on the up filled with players who can be moulded by Mourinho and are the Future Greats. And i wouldn't call it a horrible time at madrid.

[Martina 210]

Carvalho - Jose will win league with Chelsea (video)

And says: Essien will be training for Jose in July

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/8749558/carvalho-jose-will-win-league-with-chelsea

[didierforever 7,349]

cant anybody get this idiot out of here. he is spoiling the moment.

[Fernando 6,585]

Bayern treble.

Mourinho time at Madrid compared to jupp at Bayern is horrible.

And this come with Bayern changing manager like Chelsea and Madrid does.

Stability?

Nonsense!

Is all about the board building a great team so the manager can manage them and get the best like jupp did.

Now time to move on and give chance to another manager.

This is the philosophy I see Chelsea following with roman, emanolo and company.

Managers are dispensable.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Lol at carvalho saying the first 2 seasons were good.

The second one was the only good one.

EDIT: im done with the mourinho thread for now, i gave a rebuttal for everything really and simply stated my opinion with supporting details and evidence, if you want to learn more then just backtrack. Ill return to the thread to talk about the subject incase there is a worthy post, until then let this be the delusional illogical love fest that it is!

[Stingray 9,441]

Stingray it is obvious that you have been offended by my presence and apparently it is due to fear that i might bury you without even trying.

Like i said i dont have any interest in "outwitting" you in my sleep, your insecurities are your own problem.

As much as i liked your ideas on Mou, your next step was weak. So I am not offended by your presence but I am a little because of the arrogance you display to some. It might be youth, american hybris, or just a personality trait.

In dealing with other people in a mature reponsable way .... you probably know about hamburgers but you do not know how to cook.

Go read some real philosophy, some real critical thinking. Then come back to me.

Ps: i am open for debate: so feel free.

Ps2: never, ever underestimate you opponent. I will challenge the shit out of you on the topic of critical thinking now.

[Fernando 6,585]

Look at arsenal's squad. Wenger hasn't gone downhill. Wenger has been the same all along and done the best with what he has to work with. Managers are only as good as their squad allows them to be. Mourinho is a great manager and with a great squad they can go hand in hand. "But Madrid have a great squad", i hear you say. True, but they have a lot of big names established players. We have a team that is on the up filled with players who can be moulded by Mourinho and are the Future Greats. And i wouldn't call it a horrible time at madrid.

It is a horrible time. 3 years with all that money and that's all he could win?

And don't come with record breaking league cause a horrible Barcelona just did that this season....