The Mourinho Thread

[The only place to be 11,313]

And how exactly does this statement translate into playing aesthetically pleasing and entertaining footie aka good football? the football you described up there is called win at all cost result oriented football which isn't to be mistaken for entertaining football.

Not a single neutral or football purist would watch our tie against barca,bayern and some (dare I say most) of the games we have played for the past 3 seasons and call it entertaining, breathtaking football.

To me, there are two key element to football, wining and entertainment but if you find the negatively tactical and technically limited football entertaining then to each of its own.

I think you're completely ignoring the romance of sport. We went to Barcelona and Munich as the underdog (the reasons for which you may have a point about - with our resources we should've been far better but we were mismanaged in the years after Jose left) yet the character and resolve we showed were absolutely remarkable. Some of the greatest sports stories that survive decades of retelling are based on those values, so I'm not that ashamed by what I saw those nights.

To be honest I couldn't give a fuck what neutrals thought about us that night either. They don't factor into my thinking because I'm a Chelsea supporter. The guys next to me in Munich didn't seem to care what neutrals thought of us either.

But like you said, to each his own.

[Tomo 21,733]

And how exactly does this statement translate into playing aesthetically pleasing and entertaining footie aka good football? the football you described up there is called win at all cost result oriented football which isn't to be mistaken for entertaining football.

Not a single neutral or football purist would watch our tie against barca,bayern and some (dare I say most) of the games we have played for the past 3 seasons and call it entertaining, breathtaking football.

To me, there are two key element to football, wining and entertainment but if you find the negatively tactical and technically limited football entertaining then to each of its own.

Nobody could have took on Barcelona then, played them at an open game and beat them (unless your keeper had the game off his live or they had extremely wasteful finishing, like they did that night at The Emirates, but rectified that quickly in the second game). You could spend a billion, but you still wouldn't have a CM as good as Xavi and Iniesta, a player as good as Messi, or a bunch off players that could keep the ball for 5 minutes then get it straight back within 10 seconds of losing it.

Arsenal tried to beat them at their own game, got hammered twice, no shots on target in one. Tika Taka is the most effective form of football if you can get it right, but it needs to be spot on for it to work, Arsenal tried it to a point, and they were the most easiest team to tactically set up against for a good number of years.

[didierforever 7,349]

just one question, what is "good football", and who the fuck defined it that way?

for me, football is a game of 2 teams consisting of 11 players each. u win if u score more goals than your opposition. who the fuck cares how we did it??

[Steve 10,227]

just one question, what is "good football", and who the fuck defined it that way?

for me, football is a game of 2 teams consisting of 11 players each. u win if u score more goals than your opposition. who the fuck cares how we did it??

Xavi, the bellend....

[Tomo 21,733]

just one question, what is "good football", and who the fuck defined it that way?

for me, football is a game of 2 teams consisting of 11 players each. u win if u score more goals than your opposition. who the fuck cares how we did it??

Haven't you heard? if you play more than 10 neat triangles by half time you get awarded the win.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Win games/tropies is the most important thing.

[nachikethas 1,149]

lol at xavi prick.

He was a part of spanish national team who won the worldcup in the most boring way in history

how many goals did the score 8?

[bushman 2,043]

Well, it looks like Jose strikes again.

KDB just about gone, sold outright. Most likely, Mata is going too.

Now, what good is it for the club ?

[Fernando 6,453]

All I can say is thank god we are allow to like different type of futbol and people can have their own opinions.

While I don't agree with Xavi opinions, I respect it.

We are not a nazi camp where we are not allow to have different opinion!

You have been a great futboler Xavi, but sadly don't agree with your thoughts. It sounds like you are still bitter from the many times Chelsea or Mourinho has overdone you.

[Tomo 21,733]

All I can say is thank god we are allow to like different type of futbol and people can have their own opinions.

While I don't agree with Xavi opinions, I respect it.

We are not a nazi camp where we are not allow to have different opinion!

You have been a great futboler Xavi, but sadly don't agree with your thoughts. It sounds like you are still bitter from the many times Chelsea or Mourinho has overdone you.

Your own opinion of the way you like the game to be played is fine, but Xavi is showing clear arrogance and contempt to teams that don't play a certain way and by the way he spoke seems to think there's only one way of playing football and they have some sort of moral victory every time they lose, it's pathetic.

[lionsden 4,689]

I think you're completely ignoring the romance of sport. We went to Barcelona and Munich as the underdog (the reasons for which you may have a point about - with our resources we should've been far better but we were mismanaged in the years after Jose left) yet the character and resolve we showed were absolutely remarkable. Some of the greatest sports stories that survive decades of retelling are based on those values, so I'm not that ashamed by what I saw those nights.

To be honest I couldn't give a fuck what neutrals thought about us that night either. They don't factor into my thinking because I'm a Chelsea supporter. The guys next to me in Munich didn't seem to care what neutrals thought of us either.

But like you said, to each his own.

I actually agree with your point about the david beat goliath, against all odds factor. munich was one of my greatest nights as a supporter however, the point regarding the quality of football we played still stands even though I hate to agree with that cunt Xavi.

[Jype 6,398]

Well, it looks like Jose strikes again.

KDB just about gone, sold outright. Most likely, Mata is going too.

Now, what good is it for the club ?

I was under the impression that challenging for trophies is good for the club and that's exactly what we're currently doing under Jose.

Oh well, maybe I was wrong and the mighty Bushman knows better.

[bushman 2,043]

I was under the impression that challenging for trophies is good for the club and that's exactly what we're currently doing under Jose.

Oh well, maybe I was wrong and the mighty Bushman knows better.

Since Jype has not comprehended my question, let me simplify it.

Players leaving, the team is deprived of their play. So, KDB did not work out, be it. let him go. However, Mata won´t he missed to you?

[TrippingStep 336]

I actually agree with your point about the david beat goliath, against all odds factor. munich was one of my greatest nights as a supporter however, the point regarding the quality of football we played still stands even though I hate to agree with that cunt Xavi.

What was incredible in that Chelsea run was that eventhough Chelsea were defending deep, it wasn't a great defensive display like Inter who were master at closing space and passing angles.

In the final, in the first 15 minutes, Bayern had already three good chances to open the score, two very good one for Gomez.

And Robben was in good positions many times but decided to do clay shooting that day.

To have such good fortune during thee matches was defying the odds.

[Barbara 15,149]

Talk about entertaining football, I'll tell you my feelings. We've played some of our most entertaining football in the last few years back in October and the last couple of weeks. And we beat important teams in the process. I don't care if City outplayed us, we won (I'm not even sure they outplayed us tbh, but that seems to be the consensus). We beat Liverpool, we could have beat Arsenal if we didn't waste ALL the many chances we had (I'm not complaining about the draw though).

We're still under development and we already played some entertaining matches. The last 40 minutes against Southampton were VERY entertaining. And maybe that's the difference, entertaining doesn't need to be beautiful footie. I just remember my feelings watching some of our matches this season and while we weren't anywhere close to Bayern last season (and this one) or Barça a few years back, I still had a great time watching us. For me that's enough. I want to sit to watch my team, have a good time doing it, enjoy our players, our display, and hopefully also have the result. Sometimes though as in a SF or F in an important tournament or a match that could give us the EPL title where the only thing I care about is the result. No championship is made of one match or a couple of them. If we somehow win the EPL this season, I'll be happy with the result, but I'll also be happy with many matches we've played. If we don't win, I'll continue to be happy with those same matches I've enjoyed watching.

I'm quite happy with our past accomplishments, we needed luck to win UCL (who doesn't?), but we've won it, and I'm happy in this place we currently are now and I'm absolutely excited about the very realistic prospects this group of players, this manager and the two clinical signings (that we all know are a CM/DM and a ST) will give us.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Since Jype has not comprehended my question, let me simplify it.

Players leaving, the team is deprived of their play. So, KDB did not work out, be it. let him go. However, Mata won´t he missed to you?

Not if we are gonna use that money to sign Diego Costa

[bushman 2,043]

Not if we are gonna use that money to sign Diego Costa

Oh no, my favorite Blue is here. What´s shaking ?

Excuse me, but costa is not going anywhere. At least, that´s what I have read.

Madrid is getting closer to challenge for La Liga & in CL they just might go pretty far.

They would be foolish to sell Costa now. No dice, I feel.

[Tomo 21,733]

I don't care if City outplayed us, we won (I'm not even sure they outplayed us tbh, but that seems to be the consensus).

There seems to be some general consensus to over-rate City full stop, they haven't ran away with one title yet they are "by far" the best team in the league

We were full value for our lead at half time against City, if anything it should have been more, the suggestion we got outplayed that game is laughable.