The Mourinho Thread

[Stats 7,230]

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

Well, that is harsh. Lukaku has been excellent and it is not as if Everton are far from 4th spot. They are only 6 points of it. 1 win could bring them all the way to 5th on Saturday. And let's be honest, I think Lukaku would be doing much better than Costa has been doing this season,

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Amazing how so many believe it it raining when it's just Mourinho pissing on you.

The fact that some of you still can't see through his bullchit screams the Emperor's New Clothes.

The team is falling apart because he has poisoned the well just like he did at Real Madrid and because Mourinho has no clue how to build a club.

Not sure how this so hard for some to see but the longer this goes on the more likely Chelses will get relegated.

[kmk108 1,186]

Yesterday was awful.

I don't know why I suspected any different. Leicester are top of the league for a reason. This result was always the most likely outcome.

But it was a pathetic performance by the team. Aside from the goal, there was barely a threat from the attack. It's getting harder and harder to justify not starting Remy.

It was such a pathetic effort all around the pitch. In order to keep from losing it, I just laughed at the effort. Bad passes out from the defense, poor marking from the defense, an in effective midfield that could only work the ball sideways, and when it was played forward, the forwards were unable to do anything with it. Absolutely gutless from this team and every single one of them should be ashamed of the effort put in.

Jose, though culpable for the tactics from the beginning at least tried to make a go of it by putting 3 at the back, but it's broken. This whole team is broken and it's not going to be repaired by a stroke of miracle genius. It is going to take time to recover from this.

I don't know what it is. The tactics are bland. The team looks like they couldn't be arsed to intelligently think about their actions. The only person who seems to visually care about what's going on is Abramovich in the stands. Very few of the players on the team deserve to have the Chelsea crest on their shirts. FFS, get the youth who actually care in. It can't be any worse. I don't care if this isn't ideal for them to succeed. Showing faith in them is a big enough boost to make them care more than the pathetic sacks of shit that is trotted out on the pitch every weekend.

A lot needs to be done before February of anything other than a 0-6 aggregate is going to happen.

[coolhead23 1,147]

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

I would like to see it in a different way ...

Put Lukaku in the current United or Arsenal or Chelsea team and surely he would be part of a team which will have a better standing ...

Same goes with all the other players who have had a mention ... All these players werent superstars but I believe they were those key ones who can possibly make other look like superstars. Squad players who bind the team.

Someone mentioned that we are only bringing this up this season ... I dont think so, this was discussed even last season ... any player that has potential and he does good for the other team, he will always be talked by the fans in good times or in bad times (more during the bad times)

[kmk108 1,186]

Amazing how so many believe it it raining when it's just Mourinho pissing on you.

The fact that some of you still can't see through his bullchit screams the Emperor's New Clothes.

The team is falling apart because he has poisoned the well just like he did at Real Madrid and because Mourinho has no clue how to build a club.

Not sure how this so hard for some to see but the longer this goes on the more likely Chelses will get relegated.

It's crazy to assume this is all Jose's fault after yesterday. Regardless of what's going on behind the scenes, it's the players jobs to go out there every match and play at a high level. This is far worse than poor tactics and comments by Mourinho. These players aren't even playing for themselves. They're playing for nothing.

That's not to say Jose isn't at fault but I can't believe that a team with this talent could be at the bottom of the table if they were actually trying to play.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

United fans having the same issue after Rio and Scholes said their sold XI is better than their current. It's true but context is needed. They brought up Nani.. This guy hadn't put in a consistent performance in years, Van Persie was clearly on the decline and was time to cash in etc.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Why don't we go further and say 'how dare we sell Robben '

Edit: That's not to exonerate Mourinho from his personal failures with this squad, tactically or personnel wise. But he can only be blamed for so much..

[Tomo 21,754]

Well, that is harsh. Lukaku has been excellent and it is not as if Everton are far from 4th spot. They are only 6 points of it. 1 win could bring them all the way to 5th on Saturday. And let's be honest, I think Lukaku would be doing much better than Costa has been doing this season,

Maybe was a bit harsh, but the point is I can't see how much better we would be doing with Lukaku, maybe a couple more goals, but this team is struggling even Aguero wouldn't score much.

The main point is however, Its not selling these players that created a problem, swap Hazard, Oscar, Cesar and Costa for Mata, Schurrle,(or even KDB for that matter) Bertrand and Lukaku and things won't suddenly be different or better.

[Tomo 21,754]

I would like to see it in a different way ...

Put Lukaku in the current United or Arsenal or Chelsea team and surely he would be part of a team which will have a better standing ...

Same goes with all the other players who have had a mention ... All these players werent superstars but I believe they were those key ones who can possibly make other look like superstars. Squad players who bind the team.

Someone mentioned that we are only bringing this up this season ... I dont think so, this was discussed even last season ... any player that has potential and he does good for the other team, he will always be talked by the fans in good times or in bad times (more during the bad times)

The only sold player really spoke about last season was KDB, the rest have only really cropped up this season.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I would like to see it in a different way ...

Put Lukaku in the current United or Arsenal or Chelsea team and surely he would be part of a team which will have a better standing ...

Same goes with all the other players who have had a mention ... All these players werent superstars but I believe they were those key ones who can possibly make other look like superstars. Squad players who bind the team.

Someone mentioned that we are only bringing this up this season ... I dont think so, this was discussed even last season ... any player that has potential and he does good for the other team, he will always be talked by the fans in good times or in bad times (more during the bad times)

You say that, but look at Martial at United. They're having a right go at Van Gaal for relying on a 19-year old for goals. If Lukaku hadn't started scoring quickly and frequently, we would've seen a similar effect. As Tomo said, most of the mentioned players have only stepped up this season.

[Tomo 21,754]

You say that, but look are Martial at United. They're having a right go at Van Gaal for relying on a 19-year old for goals. If Lukaku hadn't started scoring quickly and frequently, we would've seen a similar effect. As Tomo said, most of the mentioned players have only stepped up this season.

Looking at Martial now (great playr just not yet) gives an insight to what we would have looked like if we pinned our hopes on Lukaku in 13/14 instead of signing Eto'o.

Our attacking mids were really young at the time, Lukaku up front would have made a ridicolously inexpierenced front line and Hazard touched on how Eto'o helped his development and I can imagine it was similar for the others.

Plus as soon as Etoo got up to speed he was class (and wasn't even as bad as made out before even) so he wasn't just there solely to guide the young AMs.

[coolhead23 1,147]

The only sold player really spoke about last season was KDB, the rest have only really cropped up this season.

I think we did, there were always been discussion on the Lukakus, the Matas, the KDB and the others (If not, my apologies because i think everyone did had a good discussion even last yr) ... As i said, when the going is bad we tend to take a trip down memory lane more than ever...

From a manager we expect vision and from someone like Jose we expect more because he is among the elite or among the best if not the best ... If any players who has been left go off, goes out and does well ... the blame is bound to come back on the manager and specially with the situation that we are in, the manager is going to be part of the blame game ...

[Last Sicarius 610]

Next hope just gone :< We should change our name to Mourinho FC...

[Tomo 21,754]

I think we did, there were always been discussion on the Lukakus, the Matas, the KDB and the others (If not, my apologies because i think everyone did had a good discussion even last yr) ... As i said, when the going is bad we tend to take a trip down memory lane more than ever...

From a manager we expect vision and from someone like Jose we expect more because he is among the elite or among the best if not the best ... If any players who has been left go off, goes out and does well ... the blame is bound to come back on the manager and specially with the situation that we are in, the manager is going to be part of the blame game ...

There was the odd discussion about them, but aside from KDB there was none of the "why did we sell them", and if Costa hits form again the Lukaku thread will go quiet again, especially if it conincides with Romelu dipping inform himself.

[Darogba 112]

I keep refreshing Twitter hoping to hear his sacking and still nothing. What the hell is Roman playing at?

[Muzchap 8,966]

First things first, I didn't mention everyone that wants Mourinho gone. There are some quality posters on this forum (Muzchap is one that springs to mind) that have put forth some compelling reasons for him going so this isn't a comment on the people wanting Mourinho gone.

My problem is with 2 things - the disrespect shown by people to him by calling him names like turd when he has led the club to 3 of the 5 titles we've ever won. But the other is the main one and that is the enjoyment people gain from.when things go wrong. When we win and play good football very few people say a thing on this forum. The post match threads are silent, no one complimenting the players or the manager or anything. One loss and the whole thing explodes with people laying into the players, the manager and the fans. Then the people that dare say something nice or positive and not just knee jerk with rage after a defeat get shouted down by "told you so" merchants who take so much joy in being right about things going badly wrong you can almost hear their laughs as they bash away at their keyboard.

Now please note that this isn't a comment towards you, I have no idea what kind of poster you are as I haven't seen any of your posts as I've not been around recently due to aforementioned reasons, this is due to you replying and I think misconstruing what I meant.

Cheers dude

I hate wanting him gone - but see no other option - it's either him or 10 new players.

I still maintain here's here until the summer - despite what I might think - the only thing that could trigger Romans itchy finger is if we do 'actually' drop into the relegation zone for a period of time.

The game against Sunderland is a 6 pointer must win.

The trouble is, Mourinho is a problem, but I'm not sure Ancelotti is the answer? Maybe I'm doing Ancelotti a disservice, he probably would have us near the top of the table, but my dreams of a dynasty and Chelsea owning the PL are in tatters. I also think Ancelottis is a short term manager, I dunno, maybe long term guys just don't exist anymore?

Whoever comes in needs to lift the team, focus on slick football and embed some youth

I REALLY loved Ranieri's interview last night - the players are well drilled, they all fight for each other and know instinctively where their counterpart will be on the pitch - I miss that in our team so much!!!

Then in true RANIERI fashion he talks about 'electricity' - genius - the thought of his players running on electricity

I also loved that he still likes Chelsea and said his team! Classy bloke! Let's not forget he made some amazing signings and he really defined the core nucleus of Chelsea. A manager that can get Albrighton performing and Vardy scoring regularly is a great manager indeed, he's like Martin O'Neil - takes an average player and turns them into world beaters. The 'midas' touch.

For me MOURINHO seems to have the 'reverse Midas touch' every player turns to shit - lol

I dunno what the future holds, but I can't wait to see us playing like that and with a smile on our faces again. That will be a good day and all of us should never get complacent with 'winning' again

[didierforever 7,349]

The only sold player really spoke about last season was KDB, the rest have only really cropped up this season.

lukaku was 21 last season. he was already a verygood striker. he needed trust instead of being no.4 behind etoo, torres and schurlle.

and lets talk about bertrand. a perfect homegrown player to replace an already over the bridge ash. and now match after match we cry about a LB.

i was not a fan of luis, but god fucking damn it. if you want to keep just 6 proper defenders, atleast have the fucking brains to keep 6 PROPER defenders.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

Bielsa is available. He may not be great but I'd love to see his type of coaching in the EPL

I love the idea of Bielsa too since I believe he is a great manager. However, he's even more short term than Jose. If you think Jose burn-out is bad...

[lucio 5,418]

Right, and if a new manager pulls an AVB and drops 3-4 players from the XI, pisses them off, and tries formations they don't like we'll be near the relegation zone AND have a squad of players in revolt.

It can certainly get worse then it is now. Don't think we're at rock bottom yet.

so our players will freak out, if told to play 3 in the middle, or 2 up top? doubt it, it actually suits all 4 of our cm's

[Stingray 9,441]

I don't like posting too often anymore ... but this song crossed my mind too many times ....

[Muzchap 8,966]

I don't like posting too often anymore ... but this song crossed my mind too many times ....

And what did you decide?

Surely, it's rhetorical, if you suspect you have to ask the question, you already know the answer?

That's how I approached it...