LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Well without meaning to sound like AVB I would rather look at the collective, what it's done as a team.When Jose took over in 2013 our squad was a complete unbalanced mess, every bit as much as Uniteds squad is currently if not more, on a £36m net spend (that's £9m per transfer window for perspective) he has turned this unbalanced mess into genuine title contenders and 2/3 signings away from hitting the top level in Europe.He's quite clearly doing something right.Since when has Utd become the judging pole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Whoa...Salah is the only buy that hasn't panned out. Willian maybe, besides that all the transfers have been very good.I said all transfer activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I said all transfer activity. Still sad about Mo? The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted March 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 13, 2015 So Mourinho says they had a team meeting. I hope the players weren't pussies and told him some home truths. The Chels, Peace., couris and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Negatives? lets talk about jose's transfer dealings, should we?got us a player that we had sold and has made him one of the best DMs currently - maticnext is costa. who was supposedly a straight forward buy. yet a lot of people wanted rooney (PL proven), falcao (available), mandzukic (available at a lower proce), cavani (rumored to be looking to move away) etc etc.. straightforward indeed.then is cesc. ex-captain of one of our biggest rivals. and by cesc's own admission, jose was one of the main reasons for him to come here.zouma - one of the best young defenders in the world for one-fourth of the price of the defender he was taking place of.luiz, mata and lukaku.. all positives...willian - average buy...so you are basically ceibbing about salah. fair enough!!! Thendo and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Still sad about Mo?Nope. I'm sad about the shit show I have to watch ever week on the right wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 lets talk about jose's transfer dealings, should we?got us a player that we had sold and has made him one of the best DMs currently - maticnext is costa. who was supposedly a straight forward buy. yet a lot of people wanted rooney (PL proven), falcao (available), mandzukic (available at a lower proce), cavani (rumored to be looking to move away) etc etc.. straightforward indeed.then is cesc. ex-captain of one of our biggest rivals. and by cesc's own admission, jose was one of the main reasons for him to come here.zouma - one of the best young defenders in the world for one-fourth of the price of the defender he was taking place of.luiz, mata and lukaku.. all positives...willian - average buy...so you are basically ceibbing about salah. fair enough!!! Juan, De Bruyne sale, Willian (£30m), Luis, etc.If your gonna try and analyse, do it properly. [emoji106] P.S. Salah stuff is getting old. Change the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 People think that Mourinho has done the buying and selling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Juan, De Bruyne sale, Willian (£30m), Luis, etc.If your gonna try and analyse, do it properly. [emoji106]P.S. Salah stuff is getting old. Change the record.cuadrado is already a bad transfer?KDB is not a bad transfer dealing. he was woeful for us and that point of time, it was the perfect thing.we have a perfectly settled back 4. we have the best LB in the PL in azpi. that does not mean that luis is a bas signing. so as i see this, you are just full of salah (i mean crap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Juan, De Bruyne sale, Willian (£30m), Luis, etc.If your gonna try and analyse, do it properly. [emoji106] P.S. Salah stuff is getting old. Change the record.In:Matic-key player, best DM in the leagueCesc-key player, missing creative maestroCosta-deadly striker, fighter, leaderFilipe-WC left back, great player Remy-great versatile second strikerDrogba-brought back a legend, dressing room leader, beast in air, late game winner Willian-battery, important for our style of playZouma-great talented CB, with bright futureCuadrado: too early to judgeIn+out (incl loan):Schurrle-didn't work out but we made profitSalah-not received enough chances, but still our playerEto'o-great stop-gap signing for cheap, scored in many big gamesVan Ginkel-unlucky with injuriesOut:Lukaku: sold for a superb priceKDB: turned out into the player we expected, but the price was right at the timeLuiz: big jackpot on an error prone clownMata: big profit on a good player, 50-50 caseDemba Ba: sold for low valueTorres: managed to dump our most frustrating player everBertrand: not better than Luis or Azpi, Ake could play his squad role.Essien, Lampard and Cole all left but could've stayed as squad players. But we can't block their last adventure, can we?Net spend like £36M in 2 years and we've improved our first team+squad players. Even the BS Sky pundits mentioned us as the winners of the transfer windows, what do you want? darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 In:Matic-key player, best DM in the leagueCesc-key player, missing creative maestroCosta-deadly striker, fighter, leaderFilipe-WC left back, great player Remy-great versatile second strikerDrogba-brought back a legend, dressing room leader, beast in air, late game winner Willian-battery, important for our style of playZouma-great talented CB, with bright futureCuadrado: too early to judgeIn+out (incl loan):Schurrle-didn't work out but we made profitSalah-not received enough chances, but still our playerEto'o-great stop-gap signing for cheap, scored in many big gamesVan Ginkel-unlucky with injuriesOut:Lukaku: sold for a superb priceKDB: turned out into the player we expected, but the price was right at the timeLuiz: big jackpot on an error prone clownMata: big profit on a good player, 50-50 caseDemba Ba: sold for low valueTorres: managed to dump our most frustrating player everBertrand: not better than Luis or Azpi, Ake could play his squad role.Essien, Lampard and Cole all left but could've stayed as squad players. But we can't block their last adventure, can we?Net spend like £36M in 2 years and we've improved our first team+squad players. Even the BS Sky pundits mentioned us as the winners of the transfer windows, what do you want?I've said several times, my opinion has NOTHING to do with fees. Please read!Fees come down to the board. They should be congratulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 cuadrado is already a bad transfer?KDB is not a bad transfer dealing. he was woeful for us and that point of time, it was the perfect thing.we have a perfectly settled back 4. we have the best LB in the PL in azpi. that does not mean that luis is a bas signing. so as i see this, you are just full of salah (i mean crap). Juan will never replace Willian, Luis will never replace Azpi and Iva. That's £50m that could have been better spent. My reply to the last bit of nonsense - [emoji42] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I've said it once, my opinion has NOTHING to do with fees. Please read!Ok forget about the fees.Which group of players is better in your honest opinion?A) Turnbull, KDB, Lukaku, Mata, Torres, Demba Ba, Lampard, Essien, Cole, Bertrand, Moses, Luiz. B ) Courtois, Zouma, Filipe Luis, Cuadrado, Matic, Willian, Fabregas, Diego Costa, Remy, Drogba. Barbara and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 13, 2015 Can we forget about the nonsense analysis of 'buying and selling' which obviously is not just Jose's call, and go back to the EPIC press conference? I mean: :lol: The Mak, Blue-in-me-Veins, Barbara and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Juan will never replace Willian, Luis will never replace Azpi and Iva. That's £50m that could have been better spent. My reply to the last bit of nonsense - [emoji42]First things first, lets learn to add.Juan - 27 milLuis - 16mil27+16=43. Surprising? U can use a calculator to verify.Juan may or may noy replace willian, his job was to replace schurrle. If he proves to be an upgrade to schurrle, he will be a success.Luis was taken as a back up. 16mil for one of the best LBs of the last season. Not a bad transfer is it? You can argue about his role, but a lot of players take one season to settle down. Judge him next season. So like I said before, you are full of salah. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Ok forget about the fees.Which group of players is better in your honest opinion?A) Turnbull, KDB, Lukaku, Mata, Torres, Demba Ba, Lampard, Essien, Cole, Bertrand, Moses, Luiz. B ) Courtois, Zouma, Filipe Luis, Cuadrado, Matic, Willian, Fabregas, Diego Costa, Remy.Get rid of Thibo as we bought him before Jose was even here. The bottom is better, but it's a shame 3 in that list will never get a chance by the look of things, and Willian isn't worth discussing.I think my point is clear. Mourinho's negative deals outweigh his positive ones. I'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 First things first, lets learn to add.Juan - 27 milLuis - 16mil27+16=43. Surprising? U can use a calculator to verify.Juan may or may noy replace willian, his job was to replace schurrle. If he proves to be an upgrade to schurrle, he will be a success.Luis was taken as a back up. 16mil for one of the best LBs of the last season. Not a bad transfer is it? You can argue about his role, but a lot of players take one season to settle down. Judge him next season. So like I said before, you are full of salah.It's called an estimate. Heard of that word?You aren't worth my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 People think that Mourinho has done the buying and selling? no. But people do think that jose is the one who chose whom to buy or sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 People think that Mourinho has done the buying and selling? [emoji38]Nope. He has say in the matter is what I'm was getting at. He won't sit back and get player he doesn't want nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Dude, how many times do people counter your same argument. Look at the quality of teams both these managers inherited. We were playing in europa. Getting our asses kickes by benfica and rubin kazan. Jose got a team with no identity and a happhazard grpup of players, either too old or too young compared to pele whose most playees were in the prime.city have regressed massively while we developed. city should have walked the league last season when you compare their squads with the others. yet they needed a massive massive massive favor from us. also, please tell me what is this supposed great futbol. pelegrini is probably the only manager who got outclassed by the specialist in failure, they were lucky to win against a 10 man united at home, they got butt fucked by pool.Because that "counter argument" funnily enough is the same one people often use for hating on Mourinho bashing down his previous work from other teams.....Like that he got to a team ready build by someone else and yadi yadi ya.Those are the haters that have always used those arguments against him. I never really cared much for such scenario even though they have an element of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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