The Chels 2,502 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 However we really need improvements in the defence-to-attack transition. Whenever the opponent presses us we start to lose the midfield, can't hold on to the ball for more than 5 seconds and just look shaky overall.It's been a problem for a while. I think a big cause is that our midfielders tend to be rather weak in 50-50 challenges. We seem to lose a lot more of them than you'd expect and winning/losing them is the difference between having to defend a (counter) attack and initiating a counter yourself.I can only look in amazement at how he has kept Tibo and Cech both happy enough and performing to their maximum. Could you imagine AVB, Rafa or Scolari or any other manager pulling this off?Neither are probably thrilled when they don't play but there hasn't been any murmurings of discontent and both give it their all when selected. I thought the Cech and Cudicini combo was as good as it was ever going to get but I was wrong.I knew Mou was an excellent man manager but this takes the piss.I think it helps that both keepers know their fate at the end of the season. Cech will almost certainly leave and Courtois will be made the undisputed number one GK. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I can only look in amazement at how he has kept Tibo and Cech both happy enough and performing to their maximum. Could you imagine AVB, Rafa or Scolari or any other manager pulling this off?Neither are probably thrilled when they don't play but there hasn't been any murmurings of discontent and both give it their all when selected. I thought the Cech and Cudicini combo was as good as it was ever going to get but I was wrong.I knew Mou was an excellent man manager but this takes the piss.Cech has always been professional, he became a legend here so obviously he is not gonna destroy his legacy by trying to end it in a bad way. Courtois is happy because he played for like 99% of all the important matches. Also it looks like Cech is leaving in the summer anyway so I think it is good by Jose, but nothing special. They probably had a chat about it before this season and Cech agrees to give one last season for the club out of respect and remain professional while doing so.If we really want to see how good he can handle this wait until we reject a Arsenal/Liverpool bid of like 10m for Cech in the summer and forces him to stay basically, then we will find out a lot more. I agree though Jose is a great motivator for most players and one of the best manager in the world at that(although he couldn't do it to Torres ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 As I said prior to the match, the lineup today was spot on. The tactics turned out to be good as well. Yes, the game was too open to actually control, but to be fair, Costa scores 1vs1 on 35 mins and the match is over. Same applies to Rami and Hazard on several occasions. Only thing that frustrated me is how long it took him to take Diego off in the second half. But again, Jose has showed great pragmatism and tactical know-how against a very tough team when both of our DMs where out. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufilika 101 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 THere are empirical evidence that we do a lot better than any other big team in Englad against big teams. 0 defeats against City in the League (2 wins and 2 draws), 0 defats against Arsenal in League (1 win and 2 draws), 4 wins against Liverpool in League, 0 defeats against Manchester Unuted (2 draws and 1 win), 1 defeat against Toteenham in League (1 draw and 2 wins).About our counter attack one of the problems we have is that Hazard is a great attacking but he suffers in counter attack, the same for Fabregas, Oscar can't do ir aso. We should do a lot better in that, anyway we still are by far the best team en Englad in every aspect. SpecialyHazard needs to improve a ot playing in counter attack, sometimes we seem Barcelona that didn't know what to do when they were in numerical superiority in attack, and every time tried to do the same. Yet there's no evidence that another style (a more balanced style) wouldn't work or be as effective with the type of players we have. We have the quality to win big games without going the ultra defensive route. and no one is advocating a gungho style neither but to attack and defend sensibly rather than full on defensive.So players like hazard and Fabregas, who aren't suited to that style of play, have to adapt but the manager shouldn't try to be more tactically flexible to get the best out of them?So we should adapt the tactics of the teams we are beating. Yeah, that's makes alot of sense. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It's been a problem for a while. I think a big cause is that our midfielders tend to be rather weak in 50-50 challenges. We seem to lose a lot more of them than you'd expect and winning/losing them is the difference between having to defend a (counter) attack and initiating a counter yourself.I think it helps that both keepers know their fate at the end of the season. Cech will almost certainly leave and Courtois will be made the undisputed number one GK.This match showed once again how our players are weak under pressure. No one except hazard could get away from pressing, without losing the ball or kicking it in the air. And combining this with what you said about us poor in 50-50 makes for lack of control. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! LAB 1,030 Posted March 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 5, 2015 Jose has pulled off a trophy win and 3 points away at WH without Matic and Mikel. Looks easier than it actually is. It's not just about the line up selection. Hats off. :tophat: darrus, iseah100, Chelsea Legend 11 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 We've also been at the top of the table since August which is pretty incredible. LAB, stroey and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,865 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I doubted the line up yesterday and I should know better really. There is a reason he's the best in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Mourinho: Loftus-Cheek will be a big surprise next season If we dont fight for the title this season and if we have no ALCO pressure, Loftus-Cheek would be much more on the ground, "said Mourinho added: "Believe me, this kid next season will be a big surprise in the Premier League. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Those are just words for now. If we win the league and there's no pressure for a big title, he and ake should play more next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Those are just words for now. If we win the league and there's no pressure for a big title, he and ake should play more next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fernando 6,743 Posted March 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 5, 2015 I can only look in amazement at how he has kept Tibo and Cech both happy enough and performing to their maximum. Could you imagine AVB, Rafa or Scolari or any other manager pulling this off?Neither are probably thrilled when they don't play but there hasn't been any murmurings of discontent and both give it their all when selected. I thought the Cech and Cudicini combo was as good as it was ever going to get but I was wrong.I knew Mou was an excellent man manager but this takes the piss.But it didn't happen the same with Mata or KDB.it all depends on the player men.Mourinho: Loftus-Cheek will be a big surprise next season If we dont fight for the title this season and if we have no ALCO pressure, Loftus-Cheek would be much more on the ground, "said Mourinho added: "Believe me, this kid next season will be a big surprise in the Premier League.yap yap yap. The same was said about other younger players.Do instead of talk. zolayes, Blue Colored Sky, laura90 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted March 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 5, 2015 Those are just words for now. If we win the league and there's no pressure for a big title, he and ake should play more next season. But that's the thing. there's always pressure to win trophies at big clubs. if we win the league this season, we will also be expected to defend our title the next season and that pressure isn't any less. Man city are already seeking a replacement for Pellegrini despite being the reigning champions. It's a vicious cycle this youngsters are caught in, unfortunately. Ultimately though, it's the manager's mentality, trust and philosophy that determines whether a talented youngster is given playing time or not. regardless of pressure, I believe a manager like Guardiola is more likely to give youngsters opportunities than a mourinho. kellzfresh, killer1257, laura90 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 2 top class players we have potentially lost in Kevin and Salah due to Mourinho's unexplainable dislike of them. Really hope Zouma becomes that world class player one day so at least he can claims one to his name along with Varane. Haven't seen Mou turn any young potential player into world class yet. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 2 top class players we have potentially lost in Kevin and Salah due to Mourinho's unexplainable dislike of them. Really hope Zouma becomes that world class player one day so at least he can claims one to his name along with Varane. Haven't seen Mou turn any young potential player into world class yet.He prefers quick fixes. Willian and Juan are prime examples of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 we have to take the bad habbits of Mourinho too unfortunately, it comes with the packagesometimes he just freezes out players completely for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rom2013 446 Posted March 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 5, 2015 2 top class players we have potentially lost in Kevin and Salah due to Mourinho's unexplainable dislike of them. Really hope Zouma becomes that world class player one day so at least he can claims one to his name along with Varane. Haven't seen Mou turn any young potential player into world class yet.LOL you moan a lot, I bet I can find posts from you moaning about Salah when he was here. When we see any of those players playing like that for a real team we can talk. Peace., Muzchap, Viper22 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 2 top class players we have potentially lost in Kevin and Salah due to Mourinho's unexplainable dislike of them. Really hope Zouma becomes that world class player one day so at least he can claims one to his name along with Varane. Haven't seen Mou turn any young potential player into world class yet.Robben, Cech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 LOL you moan a lot, I bet I can find posts from you moaning about Salah when he was here. When we see any of those players playing like that for a real team we can talk.That's the grass is always greener side for you.Almost every time we dropped point's in the first 6 month's of Mous return all we heard was "well Rafa........"If a Chelsea player feels under appreciated by supporter's all they have to do is leave, then suddenly they were always rated. Viper22, Muzchap, darrus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 2 top class players we have potentially lost in Kevin and Salah due to Mourinho's unexplainable dislike of them. Really hope Zouma becomes that world class player one day so at least he can claims one to his name along with Varane. Haven't seen Mou turn any young potential player into world class yet.Hazard is damn close. Besides the odd glimpse he was all flair no end product in his first season. Schurrle and KdB - in my opinion it is arguable the two of them will go on to become very good footballers, but world class? I can't see that.But either way, this isn't FIFA15. You can't have a squad of brilliant players, it doesn't work. Look at City. Barbara, Muzchap, darrus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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