The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Dude, I like your posts but I disagree.Suarez did not deserve that punishment. It was a bite. In 1994 Leonardo almost killed Tabi Ramos and got 4 games, and that was all.He lost his WC credentials. He left the hotel with cops, like a criminal. He can't even stay with his team-mates in the same hotel. Thats why he had to leave Brazil and take a fly to Montevideo.We see uglier stuff every week during a football season. Suarez deserved a punishment, but only a crazy-minded person would say his band was too lenient. Gimme a break. FIFA is almost destroying Suarez career because of a bite in the back.If he was sent off, there is no way that FIFA would give him such a punishment. I also bet that if he was from a country with a powerful confederation like Brazil, there is no way that he would get such punishment. That punishment was a disgrace. It's amazing that there are even some Scousers on RAWK who have held their hands up and said that for a THIRD offence of such a disgusting nature that there's no defending the ban....yet once again you choose (because it's very much a choice) to swim against the tide for no reason other than to be different. That's the thing about modern discourse - it's easier to be a contrarian than it is to be articulate or reasoned.When 100 people agree on something, it's harder to stand out from the crowd by constructing an argument full of wit or insight. But be the 1 person to disagree and you're certain to get that much more attention. Go on Twitter and you'll see people get attention not through their intellect or reasoning, but by being more extreme than the rest. Or maybe you genuinely believe the stuff you post...but I doubt it. Once again it's his third ban for the same disgusting act. Personally I think he could've got five or six months and it would have been fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It's amazing that there are even some Scousers on RAWK who have held their hands up and said that for a THIRD offence of such a disgusting nature that there's no defending the ban....yet once again you choose (because it's very much a choice) to swim against the tide for no reason other than to be different. That's the thing about modern discourse - it's easier to be a contrarian than it is to be articulate or reasoned.When 100 people agree on something, it's harder to stand out from the crowd by constructing an argument full of wit or insight. But be the 1 person to disagree and you're certain to get that much more attention. Go on Twitter and you'll see people get attention not through their intellect or reasoning, but by being more extreme than the rest. Or maybe you genuinely believe the stuff you post...but I doubt it. Once again it's his third ban for the same disgusting act. Personally I think he could've got five or six months and it would have been fair.Perhaps in England everybody is loving everything, because Suarez was hated in England before in WC, and even more hated now after WC ended for England, for obvious reasons.Not what I see in Brazil, as 10 out of 10 people from football press are saying this punishment is totally out of place. But as usual you always think I'm just trying to be different, and I do believe you barely read my posts, or perhaps you never try a little bit harder to understand what I'm saying. No one is saying he didn't deserved some kind of punishment, I'm questioning FIFA methods, and specially taking out his WC credentials. You are a very, very, very obtuse person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Dude, I like your posts but I disagree.Suarez did not deserve that punishment. It was a bite. In 1994 Leonardo almost killed Tabi Ramos and got 4 games, and that was all.He lost his WC credentials. He left the hotel with cops, like a criminal. He can't even stay with his team-mates in the same hotel. Thats why he had to leave Brazil and take a fly to Montevideo.We see uglier stuff every week during a football season. Suarez deserved a punishment, but only a crazy-minded person would say his band was too lenient. Gimme a break. FIFA is almost destroying Suarez career because of a bite in the back.If he was sent off, there is no way that FIFA would give him such a punishment. I also bet that if he was from a country with a powerful confederation like Brazil, there is no way that he would get such punishment. That punishment was a disgrace. THIRD bite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Third bite, wasn't even provoked in any of the incidents, and once again he is under the spotlight.This man is a complete and utter animal, he's got away with this very lightly. I will say it again, how do you explain this shit to an eight year old boy who is playing at grass roots level when he says "Dad, why did he do that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 THIRD biteThird BITE doesn't mean FIFA should threat him like a criminal and take out his WC credentials. No one is questioning the punishment here, just the kind of punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Third BITE doesn't mean FIFA should threat him like a criminal and take out his WC credentials. No one is questioning the punishment here, just the kind of punishment. Maybe it is a little harsh, but mind you, he was suspended and fined twice before, for the same reason, and he kept on doing the same mistake. Maybe this will teach him a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Why does he bite people though? Like wtf why not punch then or give them a shoulder. Was he a dog in another life or something?With teeth like that - I'd guess he was Chief Beaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Third BITE doesn't mean FIFA should threat him like a criminal and take out his WC credentials. No one is questioning the punishment here, just the kind of punishment.Well he won't do it again right? That's the whole concept behind punishment!!! So what if he suffers some discomfort - that's life Cause/Reaction.He caused the situation by being an idiotThe reaction is FIFA have acted in a way that demonstrates this will not be tolerated. FIFA HAVE to do this - International sponsors WILL NOT put up with this behaviour from a 'professional'Parents with kids now have a lot of explaining to do - how many copycat bites do you expect to see now in Children? If there were statistics, you would see a massive increase.This is NOBODY else's fault apart from Suarez.As for 'precedent' - I doubt anybody had foreseen such an act in a World Cup - leaving FIFA with a blank canvass - they have made a decision and now set a precedent. Anybody else guilty of biting in a FIFA controlled match will now receive the same punishment.I get why you think this is English bias - but it's not - it was a deplorable action on the World Stage. I'm a little sad that you don't actually support this action - most feel FIFA have been lenient. As for the RAWK brigade - they knew it was coming. If I got banned from driving for being an idiot - do you think my employer could lobby for me to still drive to work - NO - the fact that I am banned is my own fault and my employer suffers from hiring an idiot and as such would likely replace me, those are the consequences of my actions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 No, and no. Intentional violent tackle is not what football is about. Take the Aguero/Luiz incident two seasons ago. Thats definitely not what you should expect to see on the pitch. You are basically saying if the agressor using his foot in FOOTball, its more acceptable than using his teeth. I can't accept that. I agree, biting is totally out of place, but again, I said he deserved the punishment, I'm just saying FIFA just went too far, specially with the 4 month ban, and taking out his WC credentials and treating him like a criminal. Its not the only problem here. What was the criterion used to punish him? Who punished him? Why 9 games and not 10? Why 4 months and not 3, 5, 6, or even 1 year?Punishment with no rules to regulate the punitive power is always some kind of authoritarianism. His football activity ban is totally out of place. FIFA should only ban players from international duties. His aggression happened in a WC. Why he should be banned from club competition? Competitions that FIFA is not involved?But in the last sentence you said FIFA should obligate Suarez to see some psychiatrist. It seems you love an authoritarianism, just like most part of Brazilians. Treating like a criminal ? He is a fucking criminal. He bit a person, which is assault. If he was an everyday Joe and had bit a person out in the streets for the third time right now I can guarantee that he would be getting bummed in a public jail. What is wrong with obligating him to see a psychiatrist ? He is clearly mentally ill. If I was working at an office and my coworker started biting other people I'd want the guy to be fired. If not, I'd need some assurance that the poor fucker is being treated and hence my health is not endangered every time I am in the same room with him. Every time defenders face this guy next season they better be careful turning their backs to him. If they ban him from just international competition Uruguay will just organize meaningless friendlies making the ban completely ineffective. If you have any doubt about that, consider the fact that even their president is out to meet him. It's not like there are any major international tournaments coming up anyways after this in the next few months. An international ban would be useless. As everyone else has also said before, this is the THIRD time he has done this. Seeing that a ten game suspension was in fact not enough to keep him from doing this again the ban should have in fact been larger than 4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Parents with kids now have a lot of explaining to do - how many copycat bites do you expect to see now in Children? If there were statistics, you would see a massive increase.To honest I don't get this kind of argument. If you think what he did offended Children, then kids should not be allowed to watch football.So Suarez should be banned from football because parents with kids have a lot of explaining to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Treating like a criminal ? He is a fucking criminal. He bit a person, which is assault. If he was an everyday Joe and had bit a person out in the streets for the third time right now I can guarantee that he would be getting bummed in a public jail. I'm leaving this topic.I like psychedelic stuff, but thats enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Maybe it is a little harsh, but mind you, he was suspended and fined twice before, for the same reason, and he kept on doing the same mistake. Maybe this will teach him a lesson. He was fined by FA. FIFA has nothing to do with his behavior in Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 To honest I don't get this kind of argument. If you think what he did offended Children, then kids should not be allowed to watch football.So Suarez should be banned from football because parents with kids have a lot of explaining to do?That's not what he means and you know it isn't.I'm a football coach and last night at an under 8s training session, I had dozens of kids laughing and joking saying they were going to bite someone. It only takes one bad tackle or push and that bite becomes a reality in the heat of the situation.And you're saying a bite isn't assault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Third BITE doesn't mean FIFA should threat him like a criminal and take out his WC credentials. No one is questioning the punishment here, just the kind of punishment. why not? if he was to stay in brazil with uruguay team, he would provoke a reaction from the fans, the opposition etc during matches and looking at how he acted like a massive twat on the touchline 4 years ago vs Ghana (after getting sent off) , FIFA are spot on to send him packing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 That's not what he means and you know it isn't.I'm a football coach and last night at an under 8s training session, I had dozens of kids laughing and joking saying they were going to bite someone. It only takes one bad tackle or push and that bite becomes a reality in the heat of the situation.And you're saying a bite isn't assault? Exactly, what I was going to say. So many kids look to him, and he bites people, they are going to do the same. And what if he or them, God forbids, bite an artery, and do something to the other player. He is a magestic footballer, wacked in the head tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Also as for Leonardo after his elbow he visited Ramos in hospital and was crying when he apologized. Suarez's action wasn't as severe but has shown absolutely no remorse and in fact believes there is a conspiracy against him. All the more reason to punish him if he doesn't see his faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Henrique's posts do get more bites than a defender marking Suarez don't they. It was his third time doing this, he's already had two bans so of course it was going to be heavy especially doing it in the biggest international tournament going.As for his credentials being removed, what choice did FIFA have? What reason did he have for still being there? HE HAS NO BUSINESS HAVING CREDENTIALS. That's why they were removed and why he was told to fuck off. That doesn't mean he's being treated like a criminal.He's being treated like a person without appropriate credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I'm leaving this topic.I like psychedelic stuff, but thats enough for me.go to your local shopping centre and bite people at random. see for yourself if its an assault or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Henrique just can't handle the tooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 A cunt as big as him should get more punishment. Back then when he stoped that ball vs ghana, I knew what a cunt he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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