DH1988 1,348 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Its not about being that type of striker something is not right fitness wise, clear as day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hkibou 622 Posted December 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 28, 2014 You guys are unbelievable. If he scores, then he's one of top 5 strikers in the world, absolute gem etc etc.Two days later, if he doesn't score, then he's back on being absolutely useless and shitty.Sometimes you really act like spoiled brats on this forum, it's quite annoying. iseah100, yuvala, illmatic and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Wouldn't be surprised to see him start today tbh. Save Diego for Thursday to unleash him on Spurs.No guarantee on Diego's fitness, he wasn't as mobile as usual (not sure "mobile" is the right word to use...) on Boxing Day. He didn't look fit on Friday and he looked even worse today. Needs a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 You guys are unbelievable. If he scores, then he's one of top 5 strikers in the world, absolute gem etc etc.Two days later, if he doesn't score, then he's back on being absolutely useless and shitty.Sometimes you really act like spoiled brats on this forum, it's quite annoying. This... He didn't score today but he's no welbeck ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 You guys are unbelievable. If he scores, then he's one of top 5 strikers in the world, absolute gem etc etc.Two days later, if he doesn't score, then he's back on being absolutely useless and shitty.Sometimes you really act like spoiled brats on this forum, it's quite annoying. At least edit your post to say some members, don't generalise without reading the majority of the posts etc. Saying what I said for a while now not just because he didn't score today and had a poor game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 No one said he is shit striker or something. We all know he is still our best striker option for this season, whatever we said. Criticize when he needs to be criticized. Praise him when he is deserve to be praised. Same scenario applied to other players like Oscar, Willian, Mikel, Schurrle, etc. Why not to Costa. DH1988 and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Don't forget though guys, he's scored 13 goals this season so we're not allowed to criticise him. Sir Mikel OBE, RoyalBlues and DH1988 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 He will be back against Tottenham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hkibou 622 Posted December 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 28, 2014 It's not about criticizing or not criticizing, it's about the way some people criticize. Saying so categorical things with so exaggerated and mean words, like "abysmal", "useless", "shitty". I swear sometimes reading this forum you would think you are speaking with Leicesters supporter. Damn. Chelsea is first in BPL, on its way for a 92 points season, I don't think there is any place for useless or shitty players in such a team. But yet, some people on this forum find nearly as many reasons to complain about the team than reasons to praise it. It's unbelievable in my opinion, and sooooo disrespectful of fans of smaller teams who would die to have the shitty players some people shit on day after day. Yes, even Schurrle and Obi Mikel who sound like, if we listen to what's being said on this forum, the shittiest footballer you can find in the whole world. That's what I call acting like spoiled brat. As for Costa particularly, actually I don't care if he has scored 13 or not, that's what I was saying. I kind of despise the people reacting epidermically to every one of his games, the only criteria for analysis seemingly being whether he has scored or not. It doesn't show much football intelligence for those people, in my opinion. It's no coincidence I used in my last post twice the word "absolutely". Because some people say he is "absolutely abysmall at hold-up play" for example. Well that's completely crazy... "Absolutely" means impervious to time... But those same people who say he is "absolutely" abysmall will say a few weeks later, if he scores a hattrick, that Costa is a top striker. It's ludicrous. Blue-in-me-Veins, CHOULO19, Barbara and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 It's not about criticizing or not criticizing, it's about the way some people criticize. Saying so categorical things with so exaggerated and mean words, like "abysmal", "useless", "shitty". I swear sometimes reading this forum you would think you are speaking with Leicesters supporter. Damn. Chelsea is first in BPL, on its way for a 92 points season, I don't think there is any place for useless or shitty players in such a team. But yet, some people on this forum find nearly as many reasons to complain about the team than reasons to praise it. It's unbelievable in my opinion, and sooooo disrespectful of fans of smaller teams who would die to have the shitty players some people shit on day after day. Yes, even Schurrle and Obi Mikel who sound like, if we listen to what's being said on this forum, the shittiest footballer you can find in the whole world. That's what I call acting like spoiled brat. As for Costa particularly, actually I don't care if he has scored 13 or not, that's what I was saying. I kind of despise the people reacting epidermically to every one of his games, the only criteria for analysis seemingly being whether he has scored or not. It doesn't show much football intelligence for those people, in my opinion. It's no coincidence I used in my last post twice the word "absolutely". Because some people say he is "absolutely abysmall at hold-up play" for example. Well that's completely crazy... "Absolutely" means impervious to time... But those same people who say he is "absolutely" abysmall will say a few weeks later, if he scores a hattrick, that Costa is a top striker. It's ludicrous.Then you have to stop being so impassioned when you write on a forum. The language you are talking about is usually attributed to the mood the forum is in following a result. Even if Courtois concedes three goals like he did at Everton, because he made a stunning save from Mirallas and we still won the game, he gets next to no criticism.If we'd have lost that game 3-0, conversely, he'd have been torn to pieces. The same applies to every player. If a player has an average game, there won't be any posts at all in his squad profile thread. If he has a good game, he's "absolutely" brilliant. If he is sub-par, he is "absolutely" shit. You just need to chill and let the people who need to get things off their chest spout their rubbish. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hkibou 622 Posted December 31, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 31, 2014 Then you have to stop being so impassioned when you write on a forum. The language you are talking about is usually attributed to the mood the forum is in following a result. Even if Courtois concedes three goals like he did at Everton, because he made a stunning save from Mirallas and we still won the game, he gets next to no criticism.If we'd have lost that game 3-0, conversely, he'd have been torn to pieces. The same applies to every player. If a player has an average game, there won't be any posts at all in his squad profile thread. If he has a good game, he's "absolutely" brilliant. If he is sub-par, he is "absolutely" shit. You just need to chill and let the people who need to get things off their chest spout their rubbish. If I have to put up with such mean - and let's call it what it is - idiotic commenting about the players, just because of "the mood following a result", even a frustrating one... Then I feel totally in my right to express my mood and my frustration, as a fan of a club with 21 points in his homegrown league, reading such comments from what I genuinely see as spoiled children.No one bothered to mention that it was Costa's first boxing day experience, first time he'd play two games in 48h... His adaptation time to the BPL was non-existent, which already is to me a miracle by itself, the team couln't have hoped better from Costa. But still, some show no indulgence to him when not scoring in such new, and extreme conditions ! You would think 2 years of Torres would have brought back some people down to earth, them and their messie-esque expectations for every single talented player (no matter his style of play - cf Hazard). kellzfresh, Hostedenis, Madmax and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 It's not about criticizing or not criticizing, it's about the way some people criticize. Saying so categorical things with so exaggerated and mean words, like "abysmal", "useless", "shitty". I swear sometimes reading this forum you would think you are speaking with Leicesters supporter. Damn. Chelsea is first in BPL, on its way for a 92 points season, I don't think there is any place for useless or shitty players in such a team. But yet, some people on this forum find nearly as many reasons to complain about the team than reasons to praise it. It's unbelievable in my opinion, and sooooo disrespectful of fans of smaller teams who would die to have the shitty players some people shit on day after day. Yes, even Schurrle and Obi Mikel who sound like, if we listen to what's being said on this forum, the shittiest footballer you can find in the whole world. That's what I call acting like spoiled brat. As for Costa particularly, actually I don't care if he has scored 13 or not, that's what I was saying. I kind of despise the people reacting epidermically to every one of his games, the only criteria for analysis seemingly being whether he has scored or not. It doesn't show much football intelligence for those people, in my opinion. It's no coincidence I used in my last post twice the word "absolutely". Because some people say he is "absolutely abysmall at hold-up play" for example. Well that's completely crazy... "Absolutely" means impervious to time... But those same people who say he is "absolutely" abysmall will say a few weeks later, if he scores a hattrick, that Costa is a top striker. It's ludicrous.This group certainly likes adjectives and adverbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Costa's all round game is lacking and that much is obvious to everyone. The sheer frequency at which attacking momentum breaks down at his feet is staggering. I have seen average strikers with significantly better hold up and link up play. At this level, its unacceptable not to have the confidence in your striker's ability to bring others into play. When he scores snd we win, his flaws can be overlooked but when he doesn't, he has no reedeming features to fall back on and you need more than goals from your srriker at this level. Very frustrating player to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted December 31, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 31, 2014 Costa's all round game is lacking and that much is obvious to everyone. The sheer frequency at which attacking momentum breaks down at his feet is staggering. I have seen average strikers with significantly better hold up and link up play. At this level, its unacceptable not to have the confidence in your striker's ability to bring others into play. When he scores snd we win, his flaws can be overlooked but when he doesn't, he has no reedeming features to fall back on and you need more than goals from your srriker at this level. Very frustrating player to watchDon't agree at all. His hold up and link up play is good enough. He had a spell when he was poor when he was off form, but other than that he's been perfectly fine. Is he best in the league at holding up the ball and linking up? No, but he's not bad either. There are very few strikers who won't get dispossessed at least a couple times every game. Lone striker in the most congested area of the pitch, it's impossible to be able to keep the ball everytime he gets it.Seems you've formed an opinion about him after a couple bad matches. His link up play against West Ham was amazing, absolutely top notch. What did you think of his overall performance in that match? He's been closer to that type of performance more so than the opposite this season. OneMoSalah, manpe, Blue Colored Sky and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 He is lacking an aerial presence though, that's his biggest weakness imo. He's very poor in the air considering his size and physicality.He's decent with his head in the penalty box but not outside it, very rarely does he win any long balls. The Skipper and The Mak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Costa's all round game is lacking and that much is obvious to everyone. The sheer frequency at which attacking momentum breaks down at his feet is staggering. I have seen average strikers with significantly better hold up and link up play. At this level, its unacceptable not to have the confidence in your striker's ability to bring others into play. When he scores snd we win, his flaws can be overlooked but when he doesn't, he has no reedeming features to fall back on and you need more than goals from your srriker at this level. Very frustrating player to watchWatch the West Ham game and tell me his link up and hold up play wasn't great in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 No other poster I so consistently disagree with more than lionsden.Costa, when when in good form, has excellent link up play and can hold the ball up as well as any striker in Europe. He can look a bit clumsy on the ball when he's trying to run at defenders and beat a man with his dribbling but hold up play is one of his biggest strengths. Dion, Liquidator, ZOS and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted December 31, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 31, 2014 In one of those stupid stats things I've read around, it said that Aguero was the most dispossessed striker in the league. So what now, his hold up play and link up play are shitty because he's the most dispossessed or is he just a crappy striker because of it? As the mate above said, strikers are definitely the most dispossessed players because many times they find themselves isolated against 2 or more opposition players.He's been having up and downs as any other player - if we consider this is his first year in a league way above any other physically, I think he's been incredible. It's not easy for a striker to adapt to English football and he seems to have played in England since birth. So why don't we cut the guy some slack? He's been crucial to our position in the table, to many matches we won. I do agree on the aerial threat (both in and out of the box) as being one of the areas he needs improvement the most, I do agree he can improve his link up some, but it isn't bad, but I think his hold up is actually pretty good already. The Skipper, Blue-in-me-Veins, manpe and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 In one of those stupid stats things I've read around, it said that Aguero was the most dispossessed striker in the league. So what now, his hold up play and link up play are shitty because he's the most dispossessed or is he just a crappy striker because of it? As the mate above said, strikers are definitely the most dispossessed players because many times they find themselves isolated against 2 or more opposition players.He's been having up and downs as any other player - if we consider this is his first year in a league way above any other physically, I think he's been incredible. It's not easy for a striker to adapt to English football and he seems to have played in England since birth. So why don't we cut the guy some slack? He's been crucial to our position in the table, to many matches we won. I do agree on the aerial threat (both in and out of the box) as being one of the areas he needs improvement the most, I do agree he can improve his link up some, but it isn't bad, but I think his hold up is actually pretty good already.this.His hold-up play has been miles better than Ba's or Torres's and not worse than Remy's or Drogba's.Costa despite not as gifted has been almost on par with Agüero in terms of goals+influence on his team and in his first season in English football. He has already scored about as many goals as Agüero scored in his first whole season in English football.At the beginning of the season I predicted him to score 20-25 goals in the league which is exactly what he will do and exactly what we bought him for. Drogba had his highest scoring seasons with 29 and 32. We should give Costa as much time. The Skipper and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Costa's all round game is lacking and that much is obvious to everyone. The sheer frequency at which attacking momentum breaks down at his feet is staggering. I have seen average strikers with significantly better hold up and link up play. At this level, its unacceptable not to have the confidence in your striker's ability to bring others into play. When he scores snd we win, his flaws can be overlooked but when he doesn't, he has no reedeming features to fall back on and you need more than goals from your srriker at this level. Very frustrating player to watchThis might be the most ignorant post I have ever seen. 1. Every striker in the world has plays broken up at his feet because he's usually going against two centerbacks. I've seen Zlatan, Suarez, Aguero, even Messi have multiple attacks break down at their feet, do they all have poor all around games?2. Yes, some strikers have better link up play, but Costa brings more than just that, his physiciality, workrate, determination, and ability to harass opponents along with holding up play make him an above average striker. 3. 13 goals in 18 games isn't enough? Aguero has 14 and took 4 penalties, that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen you say.Some fans just will never be happy, we had Fernando FUCKING Torres for 4 years, and now you criticize Costa? Obviously he was gonna slow down from the blistering pace he was on, he got injured and the league adapted to him, somewhat. He'll still bag 20+ goals and without him we'll win nothing. Criticize him for certain performances, not for his season so far. manpe and Liquidator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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