Cesc Fàbregas

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

I think it's from 2011. There are articles from Telegraph and Guardian from 2011 with the same title.

Thought so as a twitter search had no one mentioning it, besides the tweeter

My mistake i didnt notice he had written "oops...." before the tweet implying that Fabregas is a litle bullshitter

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

The strikers are pathetic but they aren't the only problem. Costa won't magically make Ramires a better player, won't make Oscar create more chances, won't make Ivanovic deliver better crosses etc etc.

Chelsea could have won the league with a proper striker, but said striker will still have many games where they have close to no supply.

you have absolutely no way of knowing that, good players make those around them better. We've been so starved for strikers the last few years I don't even think our players know what its like to have one up top.

[quickpassnmove 924]

No no. Cesc is a far better playmaker. Oscar is pretty average when a team that parks the bus and sits deep with two banks of 4 and defend for their lives. I remember Cesc once assisted 4 goals and scored a half volley from outside the box against Blackburn in a game for Arsenal. He has the kind of creativity that we need up the pitch and the kind that Oscar doesn't have

Oscar MIGHT not have everything that Cesc has, but Oscar also arrived into an unbalanced Chelsea squad less than two years ago and Chelsea are still unbalanced and passing too slow as a team. Agree that we need more drive, skill and creation from center midfield though. I think CFC need more than Cesc; someone else who is physically imposing but better in transition and building an attack than what we have.

[Sheva. 5,373]

you have absolutely no way of knowing that, good players make those around them better. We've been so starved for strikers the last few years I don't even think our players know what its like to have one up top.

By your logic shouldn't playing with a top DM like Matic make Ramires better?

If you put Messi in front of Oscar, he will still have the same problems he does against defensive teams.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

By your logic shouldn't playing with a top DM like Matic make Ramires better?

If you put Messi in front of Oscar, he will still have the same problems he does against defensive teams.

you have no idea what you're talking about... this is borderline retarded. Its a team game, what if Messi's movement allows for Oscar to make the sort of pass that he normally tries but doesn't have a striker who understands it? It takes two, not one...

[Joker10 946]

People here really seeing the difficulty of how much better fit Cesc is to a direct side then Mata? Mata did not fit Mou system that goes beyond his defensive ability. I can see Cesc turning into a monster under Mou, his long balls and vision are one of the best in the world and it would be incredible to have that kinda player to turn counter. This team has a lot of work rate and Cesc understands team defensive concept very well, i am not worried about that side.

Cesc does not fit Barca system, that is no shame because a lot of great players have had difficult time adjusting to theirs.

[Styles 9,790]

The strikers are pathetic but they aren't the only problem. Costa won't magically make Ramires a better player, won't make Oscar create more chances, won't make Ivanovic deliver better crosses etc etc.

Chelsea could have won the league with a proper striker, but said striker will still have many games where they have close to no supply.

People will only realise this when Costa or whoever's numbers decrease.

[Korea 734]

So, Barcelona going to sell Cesc after they sold Thiago.

Even though Xavi is going to retire soon?

When Cesc came to Barcelona and was linked to them the summer prior, everyone in Catalonia knew THIAGO was a better player for Barcelona.

I highly doubt their going to trust either Santos, rafinha, samper or roberto to play in significant games next season.

[edetarod 2,155]

People here really seeing the difficulty of how much better fit Cesc is to a direct side then Mata? Mata did not fit Mou system that goes beyond his defensive ability. I can see Cesc turning into a monster under Mou, his long balls and vision are one of the best in the world and it would be incredible to have that kinda player to turn counter. This team has a lot of work rate and Cesc understands team defensive concept very well, i am not worried about that side.

Cesc does not fit Barca system, that is no shame because a lot of great players have had difficult time adjusting to theirs.

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[Sheva. 5,373]

you have no idea what you're talking about... this is borderline retarded. Its a team game, what if Messi's movement allows for Oscar to make the sort of pass that he normally tries but doesn't have a striker who understands it? It takes two, not one...

Lol what if indeed. Just like you would have thought Matic dominating everywhere will ease some of the burden on Ramires and make him play better.

But nothing is ever so simple, Oscar clearly has some problems when so many defenders are standing at the edge of their area. Eto'o and Schurrle are no Messi, but they have good movement and combined well with Hazard, but not Oscar.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So, Barcelona going to sell Cesc after they sold Thiago.

Even though Xavi is going to retire soon?

When Cesc came to Barcelona and was linked to them the summer prior, everyone in Catalonia knew THIAGO was a better player for Barcelona.

I highly doubt their going to trust either Santos, rafinha, samper or roberto to play in significant games next season.

Ya, and the idea is to buy Koke... what's the problem?

[Spike 12,049]

So, Barcelona going to sell Cesc after they sold Thiago.

Even though Xavi is going to retire soon?

When Cesc came to Barcelona and was linked to them the summer prior, everyone in Catalonia knew THIAGO was a better player for Barcelona.

I highly doubt their going to trust either Santos, rafinha, samper or roberto to play in significant games next season.

I think they want to get rid of him because they know he doesn't fit within the philosophy of Barcelona. He is a great player but like Mata and Luiz doesn't fit within the team's ideology. Plus they can get a big boost to their transfer kitty and wage bracket by off loading him.

[Korea 734]

Ya, and the idea is to buy Koke... what's the problem?

Problem is, they don't have Koke now and he isn't guaranteed to go to Barcelona.

With Costa being sold, TC going back to Chelsea and Luiz potentially coming, no way are they going to sell half the team in 1 season.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Lol what if indeed. Just like you would have thought Matic dominating everywhere will ease some of the burden on Ramires and make him play better.

But nothing is ever so simple, Oscar clearly has some problems when so many defenders are standing at the edge of their area. Eto'o and Schurrle are no Messi, but they have good movement and combined well with Hazard, but not Oscar.

Maybe Matic isn't as good as you think he is? Maybe Ramires isn't as bad as you think too?

And to the rest of what you're rambling on about its a team game, Oscar has his issues but so too do many players. Its a team game and if you really don't understand that I don't know what to tell you. 100% having better players around you will make you a better player I thought that was elementary stuff for people that watch the game?

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Problem is, they don't have Koke now and he isn't guaranteed to go to Barcelona.

With Costa being sold, TC going back to Chelsea and Luiz potentially coming, no way are they going to sell half the team in 1 season.

Perhaps they know something you don't?

[Korea 734]

I think they want to get rid of him because they know he doesn't fit within the philosophy of Barcelona. He is a great player but like Mata and Luiz doesn't fit within the team's ideology. Plus they can get a big boost to their transfer kitty and wage bracket by off loading him.

Its True.

However, Barcelona's midfield wasn't great this year, which includes Cesc, Xavi and Iniesta. Sell Cesc, xavi retires, than your left with iniesta and busquets and la masia b players. Even if Koke comes, their still going to need another CM on their team.

People said the same thing last summer with Cesc and he didn't move to United, even though United is an ideal setup for Cesc and his talent.

[Fernando 6,464]

And Jose put the blame for those performances at the feet of the strikers, and rightly so. Costa looks very much like a Jose signing. Matic looks very much like a Jose signing.

Fabregas looks like a Roman signing.

Fabregas....Rakitic....those aren't Jose players. He likes players with power about them, someone like Pogba or even Koke who has shown that he can be disciplined defensively as well as picking a pass. Jose is the guy who sold Mata and went with Oscar because Oscar edged Mata in terms of defensive discipline.

If this story was about United signing Fabregas then people would be saying he wouldn't fit Van Gaal's style....but he's going to fit Jose's? I have serious doubts.

Roman signing? Far from it.

If it happens it was a mourinho signing, period!

Roman would have kept DL and Mata, but he has given the power to mourinho to build to his liking.

So seriously there's no need to bash Roman this time.

And not a mourinho player? I guess Ozil never was then......

[Barbara 15,149]

This signing would surely mean the paranoia some have about Rami being a Jose untouchable are not true.

Hopefully he will be used in situations that suit him and his qualities next season, because games against team's that sit deep that Rami plays is so frustrating.

you know how much I don't rate Ramires technically when I'm willing to accept Fiberglass as his replacement...

There are three players I just hate in the football world: Dani Alves, Sergio Busquets and Cesc Fabregas... but I'm willing to swallow my pride and self-respect and support this SOB if it means Ramires hits the bench.

I like Ramires as a guy, but as a footballer, I'm fed up with his limitations and how he messes up our attacks and his own tackles 3 seconds after regaining possession.

Bring Cunt Fiberglass if that's what it takes to get rid of Ramires in the starting XI