Jase 43,479 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Fabregas has played well over the last two games before today so it's really not that consecutive.Yeah but who did we play in the last 2 games and who did we play today? Fabregas becomes an average player whenever we play one of the top sides and when you look at his overall peformances since he joined us, it hasn't been good enough. Wenger's decision not to sign him last year seems like a wise one. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Fabregas has played well over the last two games before today so it's really not that consecutive.like i said before. his "form" would be decided by how he performs against spurs.not a non-existent midfield of norwich and aviv. its actually pretty simple, if a team presses cesc, he is a sitting duck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 like i said before. his "form" would be decided by how he performs against spurs.not a non-existent midfield of norwich and aviv. its actually pretty simple, if a team presses cesc, he is a sitting duck. Yeah but who did we play in the last 2 games and who did we play today? Fabregas becomes an average player whenever we play one of the top sides and when you look at his overall peformances since he joined us, it hasn't been good enough. Wenger's decision not to sign him last year seems like a wise one.We have known he's a flat track bully for a long time now, and we know he doesn't work in the pivot in big games. I've accepted it for what it is, because our manager doesn't seem to have a work around for it. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 We have known he's a flat track bully for a long time now, and we know he doesn't work in the pivot in big games. I've accepted it for what it is, because our manager doesn't seem to have a work around for it.I agree but blaming the formation is only valid till a certain point. Putting him in the pivot doesn't excuse his tendency to give the ball away, just jog around when the opposition have the ball, not put in the challenges etc. Those are practically basic things you would expect any player to do well regardless of the position they play in (except GK of course). kmk108 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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didierforever 7,349 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 hahahhaha.. it was actually worse that i initially first thought.i mean 50% of the time when he had the ball in the spurs half, he would have lost the ball. hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Jason, on 29 Nov 2015 - 12:01 PM, said:I agree but blaming the formation is only valid till a certain point. Putting him in the pivot doesn't excuse his tendency to give the ball away, just jog around when the opposition have the ball, not put in the challenges etc. Those are practically basic things you would expect any player to do well regardless of the position they play in (except GK of course).Exactly. If he's playing like this as a pivot and as an attacking midfielder, would I be crazy to think he'd also play like this in a traditional CM role?He's got the talent to have good games every now and again, but he just seems like he's completely lost what he had even last season. Look at the play where he stands over the ball for a few seconds, dancing around it. There were 4 options for him to play a safe ground pass, but he decides to lob it up halfway across the pitch. Add that it was a poor cross as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The sooner RLC starts the better. Cesc has become the biggest fraud since Torres. Cant believe people still think the problem is in team and not Cesc. What he did today was a joke and not even a funny one. Should be the first one to get benched and replaced eventualy replaced with someone who actualy has the balls and ability to be midfield leader and playmaker. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Right now playing RLC ahead of this guy won't be an issue at all, Cesc is offering as much on the field as I do.The problem being is JM and his 'my old pals act' outlook, instead of looking past his fucking nose. didierforever, The Chels and Bosnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 there was one pass where he played to hazard ..during which rose got yellow card..He played bad in this match..but not sure if that is the entire highlights video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 That was an odd game from Cesc tbh. He was good defensively but failed most of his passes. Usually it's the other way round. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 His performance - http://twitter.com/TerryAFCx/status/670980677005918208/video/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 If Ramires was available and started instead of Fabregas we would have most likely won the match. It really was often worse than playing with 10 men yesterday. Did little defensively and only broke up our attacks offensively. Sigh... Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 We have known he's a flat track bully for a long time now, and we know he doesn't work in the pivot in big games. I've accepted it for what it is, because our manager doesn't seem to have a work around for it.is he even a flat track bully now-a-days?a flat track bully can atleast play well against the bottom half and middle table teams. cesc cant. i mean all you need to do is have a half-decent good pressing mid and he is DEAD. King11Didier, Amblève. and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 he had some bad moments in the match yesterday but also had some very good ones and worked very hard ....seemed to cover a lot of ground.Wish he could be more consistant with the better moments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 is he even a flat track bully now-a-days?a flat track bully can atleast play well against the bottom half and middle table teams. cesc cant. i mean all you need to do is have a half-decent good pressing mid and he is DEAD.His performance against Norwich just two games ago? Or how he dominated the league in the first half of last season. He definitely has it in him, whether he's in a bad moment or not you can't deny him that. Muzchap, Barbara, Beepu and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 His performance against Norwich just two games ago? Or how he dominated the league in the first half of last season. He definitely has it in him, whether he's in a bad moment or not you can't deny him that.Hence why benching him would do the club and himself a world of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 His performance against Norwich just two games ago? Or how he dominated the league in the first half of last season. He definitely has it in him, whether he's in a bad moment or not you can't deny him that.he surprised me when with his performances for us in the first half of the last season. but THIS is the cesc that i see most of the time. i cant give him any credit for norwich or even tel-aviv when i could have bet all my money that he would be having a poor performance against spurs. and its not even spurs. its literally any midfield in the world that can press him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I think we're being too harsh on the lad.F**K me that video did make me laugh though - I simply think he's trying too hard! I think a few of our players are in this boat and not playing a natural game and trying the impossible and it's failing... which is pretty obvious when you think about it - trying the impossible and it failing I do think he gives it everything he's got and there's no denying the system doesn't seem to work for him as it did for Arsenal or Spain.He does have a killer pass in him - but he's had a Donkey (Costa) up front all season and now a False No.9 - none of our attacking play looks exactly 'honed' - so everything is unpredictable and relying on luck (back to that impossible, possible stuff again!)I honestly think if we had a decent team shape when attacking and players that also knew not only their defensive duties, but attacking ones too - we could really get the best out of him.I think he's had some unfair stick about being the mole - which obviously wasn't true Beepu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 hahahahah... world class player!!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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