supporter 3,088 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I think the problem is not Fabregas, the problem is that Fabregas is alone in the creation of football and is the only engine that we have for distribution of the ball.Oscar does not have the level to play with us. His transfer would be the best option for us.But Fabregas is nonnegotiable. But the problem is we can not let Fabregas alone in midfield as if Fabregas could do everything.Willian or Ramires are players more to work than to create. Matic is perfect but he has other functions. Diego Costa, Hazard or Square are individualistic players. So we have to give support to Fabregas with another player in midfield who can help him. In my opinion you maybe Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek.We will win the Premier League almost sure. So I think it's time to bet heavily on them. Ake orLoftus-Cheek are prepared and now we do not have a huge responsibility to compete in the Champions League.Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek may be the perfect solution to help Fabregas in midfield and speed up the movement of the ball.For next year maybe we have to signing Pogba or Koke (I prefer Koke), but now we have to think about what we have at home.Fabregas is not a problem, Fabregas is the solution.Regards to ALL. killer1257, bababoom, stroey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I think the problem is not Fabregas, the problem is that Fabregas is alone in the creation of football and is the only engine that we have for distribution of the ball.Oscar does not have the level to play with us. His transfer would be the best option for us.But Fabregas is nonnegotiable. But the problem is we can not let Fabregas alone in midfield as if Fabregas could do everything.Willian or Ramires are players more to work than to create. Matic is perfect but he has other functions. Diego Costa, Hazard or Square are individualistic players. So we have to give support to Fabregas with another player in midfield who can help him. In my opinion you maybe Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek.We will win the Premier League almost sure. So I think it's time to bet heavily on them. Ake orLoftus-Cheek are prepared and now we do not have a huge responsibility to compete in the Champions League.Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek may be the perfect solution to help Fabregas in midfield and speed up the movement of the ball.For next year maybe we have to signing Pogba or Koke (I prefer Koke), but now we have to think about what we have at home.Fabregas is not a problem, Fabregas is the solution.Regards to ALL.If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good. Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something. Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract? So those two options are hard. It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro.... supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good.Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something.Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract?So those two options are hard.It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro....Vidal can play as a CAM fine too but recently injury has made him not being able to be at his peak and rumor is that he will never be fully healed, could maybe sign Isco if we offer 40m for him and he is being benched now Modric and when James is back. Pjanic is another option but imo he looks like another Oscar and not that much better,That is about it for pure CAM I can think of, of course Koke is the perfect choice but like you said he doesn't want to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 This guy is not a winner. Simple as that. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good.Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something.Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract?So those two options are hard.It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro....Hi Friend!Yes, I share your opinion. It would be perfect If we would sell to Oscar or Ramires to get a good amount of money to sign next summer a specific player in midfield.But the player has to be a TOP player. No one player with nomal level / low level.Like you, I also think Koke would be the perfect choice. He just improved his contract with Atletico de Madrid but reports in Spain Atletico Madrid insist that you are going to sell him this summer to sign the big signings Simeone required to continue training in the Atletico de Madrid. Almost taken for sure Koke leave Atletico Madrid next summer by choice and by the will of Atletico Madrid.Koke would be perfect to complement Fabregas. He can play as a central midfielder with Matic or as Attacking Midfielder with Fabregas - Matic in midfield.In addition, Koke knows how to move in the pitch with intelligence, rotating his position constantly. A dynamism which would allow us to recover the dynamic game earlier this season.Another capability of Koke is that he knows also play on the sides. I think that's the main problem with Oscar, because he knows not play without disturbing Fabregas, not able to move sideways and he stuck our attack in the middle.Therefore, Koke can play or he can play Fabregas replacing Fabregas which can help Fabregas with their problems in the second part of the season, making him the less tired.Koke also is a player with a very well-educated head. He is a young and humble without big ambitions (the main the problem of Pogba) guy. In Spain people would compare him with Xavi Hernandez, but I think Koke also works hard for the team. The following season with Koke.Koke as a means Matic center. Koke Matic Willian Fabregas Hazard Diego CostaKoke as Attacking Midfielder. Fabregas Matic Willian Koke Hazard Diego CostaWithout Fabregas (Resting physically to arrive with energy end of the season) but with Koke. Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic Willian Koke Hazard Diego CostaRegarding Pogba, his price is a joke. I think paying that kind of money would be madness. Pogba has an immature mind. He has many faults like Balotelli. Of course Pogba is a great player, but he is a player with a remote slope of soccer and more photographs than mentality of the football, Freshness (Mino Raiola) which only causes problems (if Pogba comes to us every year he will ask raise shouting it from the newspapers of half the world). It is a very risky operation to pay 80 million pounds for him, for a player who raises many unknowns about their future.I think Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek should play in all 11 games we have left to play this season. To my Ruben Loftus-Cheek has some features like Pogba, but Ruben has a well-educated head which gives me more guarantees than Pogba. Maybe if we use Ruben Loftus-Cheek from now he may be our surprise for next season.This season with Ruben Loftus-Cheek o Nathan Ake. Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic Willian Fabregas Hazard Diego CostaThus we would break our current trend where the ball runs very slow.Regards. The Chels, stroey and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hi Friend!Yes, I share your opinion. It would be perfect If we would sell to Oscar or Ramires to get a good amount of money to sign next summer a specific player in midfield.But the player has to be a TOP player. No one player with nomal level / low level.Like you, I also think Koke would be the perfect choice. He just improved his contract with Atletico de Madrid but reports in Spain Atletico Madrid insist that you are going to sell him this summer to sign the big signings Simeone required to continue training in the Atletico de Madrid. Almost taken for sure Koke leave Atletico Madrid next summer by choice and by the will of Atletico Madrid.Koke would be perfect to complement Fabregas. He can play as a central midfielder with Matic or as Attacking Midfielder with Fabregas - Matic in midfield.In addition, Koke knows how to move in the pitch with intelligence, rotating his position constantly. A dynamism which would allow us to recover the dynamic game earlier this season.Another capability of Koke is that he knows also play on the sides. I think that's the main problem with Oscar, because he knows not play without disturbing Fabregas, not able to move sideways and he stuck our attack in the middle.Therefore, Koke can play or he can play Fabregas replacing Fabregas which can help Fabregas with their problems in the second part of the season, making him the less tired.Koke also is a player with a very well-educated head. He is a young and humble without big ambitions (the main the problem of Pogba) guy. In Spain people would compare him with Xavi Hernandez, but I think Koke also works hard for the team. The following season with Koke.Koke as a means Matic center. Koke Matic Willian Fabregas Hazard Diego CostaKoke as Attacking Midfielder. Fabregas Matic Willian Koke Hazard Diego CostaWithout Fabregas (Resting physically to arrive with energy end of the season) but with Koke. Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic Willian Koke Hazard Diego CostaRegarding Pogba, his price is a joke. I think paying that kind of money would be madness. Pogba has an immature mind. He has many faults like Balotelli. Of course Pogba is a great player, but he is a player with a remote slope of soccer and more photographs than mentality of the football, Freshness (Mino Raiola) which only causes problems (if Pogba comes to us every year he will ask raise shouting it from the newspapers of half the world). It is a very risky operation to pay 80 million pounds for him, for a player who raises many unknowns about their future.I think Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek should play in all 11 games we have left to play this season. To my Ruben Loftus-Cheek has some features like Pogba, but Ruben has a well-educated head which gives me more guarantees than Pogba. Maybe if we use Ruben Loftus-Cheek from now he may be our surprise for next season.This season with Ruben Loftus-Cheek o Nathan Ake. Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic Willian Fabregas Hazard Diego CostaThus we would break our current trend where the ball runs very slow.Regards.thanks for your assessment . I like your optimism regarding transfers. Also I agree that Koke would be a nice option given he has the same if not higher workrate as Osar whilst at the same time being much more of a threat with his set pieces, creativity and superior technique. As a connoisseur of Spanish football, how much do you reckon Koke would cost us? supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 thanks for your assessment . I like your optimism regarding transfers. Also I agree that Koke would be a nice option given he has the same if not higher workrate as Osar whilst at the same time being much more of a threat with his set pieces, creativity and superior technique. As a connoisseur of Spanish football, how much do you reckon Koke would cost us?Hi!Thanks for your comment.The rescission clause of his contract Koke are £ 42.82 million (€ 60 million). I think that hardly we could reduce his final price more than 10 million.Last year we signed Diego Costa for £ 27.11 million (€ 38 million) from Atletico Madrid. That amount was the rescission clause of Diego.They usually are offended if any team try to sign a player of his team (Atletico de Madrid has a lot of extravagance).Another feature that I had not commented before about Koke is that he is understood to perfection with Diego Costa. Koke and Diego are understood without needing eye contact. When they were together in Atletico de Madrid did not stop to give them passes between them. To Diego Costa if we signed Koke this summer would be a blessing.I think that, taking into account his age (23 years old), their quality, their mind without the luxuries of the money and his ability to work sacrificing for the team that amount of money -more or less £ 27.11 million (€ 38 million) - would be a good operation. With this signing would get a perfect replacement for Fabregas now and for the future.Regards. zolayes, The Chels and manpe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Can see him become the CAM more next season with Loftus-Cheek and Matic in the pivot. Oscar hasn't really helping his case the last few games (not many player have really). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Can see him become the CAM more next season with Loftus-Cheek and Matic in the pivot. Oscar hasn't really helping his case the last few games (not many player have really).Do you really see that, or are you hoping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Do you really see that, or are you hoping?Maybe it's better to say that I could see it happening (hoping but also thinking it might just as well happen). Mourinho has already said that Loftus-Cheek is good enough already, and if we want to abide with FFP then it's a wise move to start playing promising youngsters. Loftus-Cheek is the youngster that has been nearest to the first team this season so I believe that José thinks Loftus-Cheek is the most promising. However, who knows? He said things about Baker and Chalobah and it didn't really turn out well (at the moment). Maybe at a later date they will be starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm not a big fan of Fabregas. I still think its weird to see him wearing a Chelsea shirt. I don't think he is a match winner. For a team who had the likes of Ballack and specially Lampard in the past, Fabregas looks unexciting. His untouchable status must change next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Kills 164 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm not a big fan of Fabregas. I still think its weird to see him wearing a Chelsea shirt. I don't think he is a match winner. For a team who had the likes of Ballack and specially Lampard in the past, Fabregas looks unexciting. His untouchable status must change next season. I agree with most of what you're saying but who else is capable of splitting the defense with a pass? Hazard..... that's it. And that's not even his style as he obv prefers to dribble. The bolded part as well - Henrique there has to be a better alternative if that's going to be the case. If he's in shit form than the alternative can't be Mikel or Ramires. We need an upgrade at CM still. It's as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmode 113 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I don't see why Fabregas cannot perform in big games. He made huge assists and played great in the biggest games of all - WC and Euro finals and semi finals. But he can't contribute anything if our strategy is to hoof the ball and hope for the best. A build up play from back is required to get the best out of him. Someone who was that good of a form cannot change overnight Barbara, Stats, Blue Colored Sky and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 13, 2015 Someone who had a big part to play in his countries WC + Euros victories cannot be seen as a big game flop IMO. It really isn't his fault that we set up the way we do in big matches. Stingray, BlueLion., jeronimo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Don't think koke and cesc would be an ideal pairup.I highly doubt Cesc is going to make the midfield in spain, so, why do you guys think that cesc and koke will be paired up together and can flourish?Both are slow. Koke is more physical and works harder, but he's still slow. Both are set peice kings. Matic will die with both of them going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Come on, mate, time to shine again!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhMalouda 10 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I'd love to see him go back to the type of player he was at the start of the season. The second half has definitely showed signs of his Barcelona days, being a bit of a whinge. C'mon Cesc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 please show the early season form. dont want a bump today and give city some hope. need him to step up today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 so.. just think that the "bandwagoners" were right. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmode 113 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Awful first half. Pretty good second half. Still not enough from him, may be sit out a couple of games ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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