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1 minute ago, It's too big said:

We don't really know anything about the situation or his job entirely, so to speculate he is the problem is a bit far fetched. 

He was part of the problem. There are only so many people at Chelsea, and we can name them one by one, and conclude that 99% of them do brilliant jobs. We end up being left with simply 'the board' as we call them. Nobody's calling him the problem anyway, everyone's acknowledging both Roman and Marina in this.

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10 minutes ago, FabHazard said:

I will thank him for signing hazard alone..Tbf he is not that bad in identifying talented players...Apparently he had offer from As Monaco... Wish him good luck

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/michael-emenalo-resigns-chelsea-latest-news-antonio-conte-roman-abramovich-a8040276.html

Monaco are a club that have been looking to solidify their place among France's elite and as a perennial Champions League team. The sharp increase in Ligue 1 television revenue has allowed them to further invest in a club that raked in enormous transfer income last summer. 

Emenalo is one of a number of candidates that the principality club are looking at to strengthen and oversee their sporting infrastructure and that includes scouting and identifying talented youth players and channeling them into the first-team. 

But he isn't a scout, so does he identify talent? We don't know what exactly he does. Maybe he has last say on talent coming? Plenty of clubs were looking at Hazard along with us, but because we won the CL he chose us (apparently) so not really anything special by Emenalo in that situation. 

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Emenalo has always had contacts with certain agents, agents close specifically to Papy, as one example I can remember explicitly. 

With the amount of managers we go through, we had long periods where there were no managers to make signing-related decisions for us; we had interim managers, or brand new managers who weren't allowed to hammer home their own philosophy. Throughout all of those shaky periods, Emenalo has been chief of signings in one way or another. His role has been very fluid so it's hard to define. A jack of all trades, a master of none.

Anyway, I believe our very best signings, were often identified eventually by some of our 'new' managers, who'd clearly been interested in those players while at prior clubs. Specifically AvB comes to mind there, and then Jose. And then Conte too, who hasn't made a bad signing (and regardless what you think of Baka, everything points to the idea that Emenalo went for him. I mean, jumping on a player after 1 season of being in the papers - it's something unlike Conte, but very much like Emenalo, considering it took into account 0 footballing knowledge, and more of a marketing-related mindset. 'If a player's hyped, he must be good!!!!!' Baka's certainly not a Conte player, neither is Drinkwater his desired quality, and odd signings like these are why any potential power-struggle needed crushed, violently, far sooner than now. And, if a DoF is going to have a say in our signings, like most clubs allow now, have someone with experience at other top clubs in that role at least) 

As for the Belgians, that's all Piet. Even he himself has said he identified them in his book. I mean he's the guy who found Ronaldo and Romario - do people think he just sits here and isn't a driving force behind our brilliant Belgian acquisitions? 

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4 minutes ago, It's too big said:

But he isn't a scout, so does he identify talent? We don't know what exactly he does. Maybe he has last say on talent coming? Plenty of clubs were looking at Hazard along with us, but because we won the CL he chose us (apparently) so not really anything special by Emenalo in that situation. 

His position includes being head of the scouting department, so yes, he got a very big say in the scouting of players. This can be read even from Chelsea's official site.

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10 minutes ago, It's too big said:

But he isn't a scout, so does he identify talent? We don't know what exactly he does. Maybe he has last say on talent coming? Plenty of clubs were looking at Hazard along with us, but because we won the CL he chose us (apparently) so not really anything special by Emenalo in that situation. 

His exact job is really vague. No one really knows.I think you are correct in the sense that he has final say in signing talented players...I do not like when managers are given too much power...They select players according to their style eventually leave with players who do not suit for successive managers ...It is very important to have overall vision and to define a chelsea style or philosophy..Hope this board cares about that

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Just now, Leif said:

Well fuck knows what Emenalo's vision was.

 

His vision was a 3 man defense of Hector, Matt Miazga and Papy. It would be bad, but quite possibly the most entertaining defense in the premier league of all time.

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4 minutes ago, Leif said:

 

Yet Arsensen got Ronaldo to fucking PSV. That was a huge scoop, even if he was well known by the point, clearly no big clubs thought he was quite as good as it turned out, and he sold him for a world breaking amount at the time. That is good scouting, even if he didn't come from out of nowhere. 

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Nothing is as crazy as these repeated posts in multiple places that Emenalo 'discovered' Hazard, the most hyped player at the time, that he discovered De Bruyne, who was literally, straight up, no other words to say it, 'discovered' by Piet de Visser, as well as Courtois. I don't know who 'discovered' Lukaku, the hottest thing perhaps in Belgian League history at the time, but I'd presume Piet de Visser knew of those exploits before Emenalo, considering he's the one who's been knee-deep in Belgium for 10 years. He found Musonda too. So stop this lie, and stop robbing a genuine man of credit.

Erase Piet de Visser's incredible Belgian work, and the 'discoveries' we've made amount to Oscar. 

Edit: And Miazga, Papy, Kenedy, Piazon....:lol:No manager of ours signed van Ginkel, either. I really wanted van Ginkel, but what was i, 15 years old or something? I knew nothing. He should have. He didn't.

Oh and Marko Marin :lol::lol:I wonder if he 'found' Azpilicueta though, because we were going through a shaky period then, so surely he was in charge of transfers. If he chose him, for whatever reason, some credit goes to him.

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11 minutes ago, Leif said:

Nothing is as crazy as these repeated posts in multiple places that Emenalo 'discovered' Hazard, the most hyped player at the time, that he discovered De Bruyne, who was literally, straight up, no other words to say it, discovered by Piet de Visser, as well as Courtois. I don't know who 'discovered' Lukaku, the hottest thing perhaps in Belgian League history at the time, but I'd presume Piet de Visser knew of those exploits before Emenalo, considering he's the one who's been knee-deep in Belgian for 10 years. He found Musonda too. So stop this lie, and stop robbing a genuine man of credit.

Erase Piet de Visser's incredible Belgian work, and the 'discoveries' we've made amount to Oscar. 

I agree with your overall point. But just think not giving Arnesen credit for bringing such a talent as Ronaldo to PSV, is a bit silly. That was an incredible signing for PSV and although he was well known and not discovered by Arsensen, he was the one who thought highly enough of him to sign him at that young age. 

On Lukaku obviously every scout and their mother knew about him, by the time he played for Anderlects youth team and many probably before that as well. But it was Ariel Jacobs who gave him the chance and believed in him even at a very young age. Still think Emenalo should get credit for signing so many of these huge talents, it's not just about being the first to know about them, but also thinking they could be worth the money. Hazard however it's hard to give much credit for, lots of clubs were more than willing to pay the money. We can thank Drogba, RDM and some heroic defending in Munich for that more than Emenalo.

 

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