Ryan Bertrand

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going on loan

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Shaw this window?

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Breaking transfer news: Villa secure loan deal for Chelsea ace

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3624822,00.html

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Does this mean that Shaw is coming this window?

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Needs to be playing at his age and hopefully it bumps up his transfer value a bit, although doesn't bode well for the Shaw deal this January if he was a realistic exchange option. Maybe he'll be included in the summer.

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bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid..

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Means two things....Azpi and Cole for the LB spot or Shaw.

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Does this mean that Shaw is coming this window?

Very unlikely. Looks like Azpi & Cole for LB and Ivanovic & Azpi for RB.

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Bertrand out on loan? Unless Shaw is coming in, it's not good

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Well that escalated quickly.

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bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid..

Why? He isn't playing for us so why not give him a chance to go and prove himself. The guy's 24. He needs to be playing football and he didn't seem likely to get it here.

Maybe this does mean we're getting Shaw in a straight cash deal though. Who knows?

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6 defenders for 4 positions. just plain stupid. 2 out of those 6 are 33 year olds. how does this deal help us in anyway?

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6 defenders for 4 positions. just plain stupid. 2 out of those 6 are 33 year olds. how does this deal help us in anyway?

Cole

Azpi

Ivanovic

Kalas

Luiz

Terry

Cahill

7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.

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Schurrle will miss his best friend

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Cole

Azpi

Ivanovic

Kalas

Luiz

Terry

Cahill

7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.

I thought Kalas should have been the one going on loan

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Cole

Azpi

Ivanovic

Kalas

Luiz

Terry

Cahill

7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.

KALAS??? is he still here!!! tell me the number of minutes he has played.

SCENARIO - iva not available for city match, just in case one of azpi/cole gets injured, who hell is going to play LB/RB??? essien??? kalas??? this is a STUPID move. even if we buy LUKE right now, its still stupid cos we will be paying at least 20+mil for a LB. no spin that u can put to this move can make it any better.

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Bertrand will be a very good signing for Villa

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KALAS??? is he still here!!! tell me the number of minutes he has played.

In the league? 64 minutes less than Bertrand.

SCENARIO - iva not available for city match, just in case one of azpi/cole gets injured, who hell is going to play LB/RB??? essien??? kalas??? this is a STUPID move. even if we buy LUKE right now, its still stupid cos we will be paying at least 20+mil for a LB. no spin that u can put to this move can make it any better.

Probably Luiz. Yes in hypotheticals it could be bad, but football clubs have to be run on the reality of the situation.

We've let a player who has played 64 minutes of league football go on loan. If nothing it gets his wages off the books, but it might also be a sign of us signing Luke Shaw who could be the future of this club.

Loaning a player who wasn't being used doesn't need spin. He's third choice left-back and he's got himself a decent loan.