Ryan Bertrand

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

We should offer Bertrand + Cash for Luke Shaw...

Win win for both clubs

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Didn't Cole's have a couple of lay off's last season which accounted for about 10 of his appearances? Then there was the Europa and games like QPR and Southampton where Rafa pretty much rested the whole first Xl because of another game shortly after. Also he had a fair few game at LW, especially at the start of the season, also a few of them were off the bench to protect a lead late on (for example, both matches against Arsenal).

I think the Cole was the best LB in the world still being used past it's sell by date was mainly people who didn't watch Chelsea and hang on to the same cliche's, Ferdinand's name was still in the worlds best defender's debate's up until about a year ago, even tho he hasn't been at that level since 2008.

Back to Ryan, he should have made more appearances without question, but some players just seem made to be dependable squad players, and, imo, Ryan's one of them. There's no shame in that, infact i would much rather we use the academy for squad depth than buy tripe like Marko Marin for the same purpose.

He literally made 3-4 sub appearances at LW for us last season. And Ash was never out for long last season. Ryan was as much a squad player as Garry Cahill (45 app) or Mikel (38 app). The point is, he was a very much trusted regular in the team. We're not talking about Marin or Paulo Ferreira here.

I'm not discussing if Ryan can be a top player or not, in fact, I agree that for a team like Chelsea he should be a very reliable squad player, but at the time all the other options at LB should not be at a top team like us. Simply put atm, he is better than Cole and Azpi at LB so he should be starting regardless if he isn't a top player or not.

[Thendo 1,088]

Going on loan to Aston Villa...

[lucio 5,418]

going on loan

[Special Juan 28,106]

Shaw this window?

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Breaking transfer news: Villa secure loan deal for Chelsea ace

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3624822,00.html

[Soul Caliber X 27]

Does this mean that Shaw is coming this window?

[The only place to be 11,313]

Needs to be playing at his age and hopefully it bumps up his transfer value a bit, although doesn't bode well for the Shaw deal this January if he was a realistic exchange option. Maybe he'll be included in the summer.

[didierforever 7,349]

bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid..

[Special Juan 28,106]

Means two things....Azpi and Cole for the LB spot or Shaw.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Does this mean that Shaw is coming this window?

Very unlikely. Looks like Azpi & Cole for LB and Ivanovic & Azpi for RB.

[Strike 7,474]

Bertrand out on loan? Unless Shaw is coming in, it's not good

[Tomo 21,751]

Well that escalated quickly.

[The only place to be 11,313]

bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid..

Why? He isn't playing for us so why not give him a chance to go and prove himself. The guy's 24. He needs to be playing football and he didn't seem likely to get it here.

Maybe this does mean we're getting Shaw in a straight cash deal though. Who knows?

[didierforever 7,349]

6 defenders for 4 positions. just plain stupid. 2 out of those 6 are 33 year olds. how does this deal help us in anyway?