Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Assisted Palacio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Alright, quote one of my posts where I said either of those things. The only thing I said differently was about his passing which I still think is below average if Jose wants to play him in the pivot. The bold part is not really true. He's very strong and can run all day, but his technical ability on the ball is rather weak. His best attribute is his pressing and defending. Just don't give him the ball on the attack. 18m :lol: Nope, sorry. Still a long way from buying this rumor. Jose has said twice already that we won't make any signings in Jan and I'm pretty sure we won't break that to pay 18m for a below-average player that doesn't fit in our team. Straight from the horse's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Don't really have any feeling either way to the signing.In the past when i feel that, they turn out to be really good (Schurrle, Ramires) or flop (Pizzaro), i would say Zhirkov but the part he played in our run up to the title in 2010 (particularly against Bolton) means he was worth every penny, even if he didn't have the best of times overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Straight from the horse's ass.Yeah, I said he's rather technically weak not tactically. And I still stand by it. The Inter fan didn't say any differently. He said that his best attributes are the physical ones, he said nothing about his technical ability. He said he had powerful shots (which I said as well) but he shoots too much sometimes from 50 yards and doesn't hit the target (which I think I said as well). He said that sometimes his passing is way off and he tries to dribble too much and loses possession. All I did was translate those three things into " his technical ability on the ball is rather weak".Below average player was probably an exaggeration and I didn't think I'd said it because it's really not my opinion of the guy. But he's nothing more than average and that is also the view of most Inter fans.The main difference between my posts and his is that I was trying to highlight how he doesn't fit what we want for the pivot while he was just describing him in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecolombia 25 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I mean he's top assister for Inter and did a amazing pass today. He doesn't start for Colombia. But when he plays he does amazing passes more often than not. Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Us1OsbFfc#t=463or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fuyUCTLTJQ#t=172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I mean he's top assister for Inter and did a amazing pass today. He doesn't start for Colombia. But when he plays he does amazing passes more often than not. Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Us1OsbFfc#t=463or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fuyUCTLTJQ#t=172Being capable of making great passes on occasions does not make a player a good passer especially when he very often misplaces regular passes. Passing is about consistency, especially if he is going to play in the pivot.He is a pretty good crosser, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yeah, I said he's rather technically weak not tactically. And I still stand by it. The Inter fan didn't say any differently. He said that his best attributes are the physical ones, he said nothing about his technical ability. He said he had powerful shots (which I said as well) but he shoots too much sometimes from 50 yards and doesn't hit the target (which I think I said as well). He said that sometimes his passing is way off and he tries to dribble too much and loses possession. All I did was translate those three things into " his technical ability on the ball is rather weak".Below average player was probably an exaggeration and I didn't think I'd said it because it's really not my opinion of the guy. But he's nothing more than average and that is also the view of most Inter fans.The main difference between my posts and his is that I was trying to highlight how he doesn't fit what we want for the pivot while he was just describing him in general. I think thats the main issue...he's not going to massively improve our midfield.The major concern with signing Guarin is that the defensive side of our pivot won't change If we do end up signing Guarin, I expect him to be a squad player, NOT a starter at Chelsea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Its not his decision though... Inter need the money to buy other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Bring on matic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Guarin: “I haven’t spoken to Mourinho. My agent has done that. I hope that Inter are thinking about how much I really want to stay here. There is something going on, I can definitely not deny that. But now I focus only on Inter and to do well here, we’ll see in the future.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Warrior 109 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 After the Milan derby, I have to say I am glad he is staying with Inter. Incoming players have to be better or enhance what we have already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 He is one serious physical beast though .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks 30 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 And that is exactly what the Inter fan said: He plays as an attacking midfielder not a CM and what his brings to the team is his physical attributes.I still believe he is not Chelsea quality and I bet if you ask I bet if you ask the Inter fan if Guarin can be a player for a team who wants to win the PL and compete in Europe he'll say the exact same. Hey guys! many thanks for likes received! I've subscribed here just to let you know more about Fredy Guarin and improve my english though I'm a fan of Mourinho but I don't know too much about Chelsea team and Premier League.If I remember Stramaccioni (past season) start with Guarin as CM, then right midfielder. Inter played with 2 strikers, Milito and Palacio. When Milito injured Guarin started to be trequartista behind Palacio and till today with Mazzari he is in the same role (Milito injured again LOL, Icardi too, and Belfodil dosen't satisfy mazzarri at the moment).Does Guarin be good for Chelsea?I can only say as you know that he is one of the best player in his role (so Midfielder in general) in Serie A and one of the best player in Inter.As I said, Guarin during season was like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde: bad performance or awesome performance. If he find regularity I can say absolutly YES, he will good in Chelsea team, like in other top Clubs in the world.Guarin use his strenght, for dribbling and takling. I think his technical abilities are good (not average) and he's growing playing more for team. More physical than techincal then, beacuse he isn't a playmaker.Many Inter's supporters would keep Guarin, and he will be glad to stay too because he love our Team. Thoir isn't Abramovich and he want to sell before purchase. Two last things: when Guarin and Kovacic play togheter Mr Mazzari use kovacic as trquartista and guarin as right midfielder because kovacic have to learn more about covering and defensive positions/behavior.Yesterday (on Sunday) he made fantastic performance against Milan making assist to Palacio. Palacio man of the match, Guarin the second man of the match.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amonaoB5dzIGuarin n 1300:06 is going to the box alone00.14 is the second player nearest referee. He's good also for starting counter-attacks00:48 Guarin try shot01:37 Guarin is the second player from left, he's in middle of the box02:04 Guarin is in "offside", second player from top-right02:11 Guarin is going into box, top right player and make assit, 02:49 Guarin make assit to palacio...AWESOME GOOOL!Goodnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 He had a great game yesterday, especially in the second half. Hey guys! many thanks for likes received! I've subscribed here just to let you know more about Fredy Guarin and improve my english though I'm a fan of Mourinho but I don't know too much about Chelsea team and Premier League.If I remember Stramaccioni (past season) start with Guarin as CM, then right midfielder. Inter played with 2 strikers, Milito and Palacio. When Milito injured Guarin started to be trequartista behind Palacio and till today with Mazzari he is in the same role (Milito injured again LOL, Icardi too, and Belfodil dosen't satisfy mazzarri at the moment).Does Guarin be good for Chelsea?I can only say as you know that he is one of the best player in his role (so Midfielder in general) in Serie A and one of the best player in Inter.As I said, Guarin during season was like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde: bad performance or awesome performance. If he find regularity I can say absolutly YES, he will good in Chelsea team, like in other top Clubs in the world.Guarin use his strenght, for dribbling and takling. I think his technical abilities are good (not average) and he's growing playing more for team. More physical than techincal then, beacuse he isn't a playmaker.Many Inter's supporters would keep Guarin, and he will be glad to stay too because he love our Team. Thoir isn't Abramovich and he want to sell before purchase. Two last things: when Guarin and Kovacic play togheter Mr Mazzari use kovacic as trquartista and guarin as right midfielder because kovacic have to learn more about covering and defensive positions/behavior.Yesterday (on Sunday) he made fantastic performance against Milan making assist to Palacio. Palacio man of the match, Guarin the second man of the match.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amonaoB5dzIGuarin n 1300:06 is going to the box alone00.14 is the second player nearest referee. He's good also for starting counter-attacks00:48 Guarin try shot01:37 Guarin is the second player from left, he's in middle of the box02:04 Guarin is in "offside", second player from top-right02:11 Guarin is going into box, top right player and make assit, 02:49 Guarin make assit to palacio...AWESOME GOOOL!Goodnight Thanks for the reply. I follow the Serie A very closely and I agree with most of what you said (though I wouldn't say Fredy is one of the best in the league in his position). But the issue is that people here expect him to play as a central midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 formation. Practically a defensive midfielder. He has never played that role (maybe a few times under Strama when he was switching between 3 and 4 at the back every other game). I don't think he can fit that position. Like you said, he is more physical than technical and in this position, the player can't make bad passes or try to dribble and lose the ball because the defense will be in trouble.Anyway, I'm glad he wants to stay at Inter because Chelsea are better off looking for other options in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 i dont trust players when they say they want to stay. i think oscar said the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 i dont trust players when they say they want to stay. i think oscar said the same thing.When they say this it normally means they are trying to agree wages etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 i dont trust players when they say they want to stay. i think oscar said the same thing.Yeah same, I think they just say it so if the deal falls through they're not hated by the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 matic over guarin, but guarin is better than nothing at all. One ramires injury away from disaster does not sit well with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Bring on matic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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