hjperdeath 2,226 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 An 18m stop-gap? Plus, the last stop-gap we got isn't really working too well right now. If a stop-gap is what we want, give Chalobah or Josh a chance. Or even Ake who has already fllled in as a stop gap last season and did pretty well. i replied the same to Mufassir as well, thats what I want to happen but will the club to do that? Do they have plans to? If they don't then get him to keep ourselves safe until summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 i replied the same to Mufassir as well, thats what I want to happen but will the club to do that? Do they have plans to? If they don't then get him to keep ourselves safe until summer.But that's it. How "safe" will Freddy Guarin make us? What does he offer that is better than the other options we have. To me the difference is the same as between having Torres and Ba or Torres, Ba and Eto'o i.e. not much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Well from the EPL alone, I'd much rather someone like Schnielderline, Cabaye, Morrison..etc off the top of my head. All would not go for more than the rumored 18m and all would be dying to make a switch to a team like Chelsea.Cabaye is the best player on that list, and he's not exactly "available" Guarin is not the only decent CM in Europe, but when you start taking into account how much players would actually cost (fee + wages) whether he's cup-tied or not, and how they would fit into this team, there's not many names that come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 But that's it. How "safe" will Freddy Guarin make us? What does he offer that is better than the other options we have. To me the difference is the same as between having Torres and Ba or Torres, Ba and Eto'o i.e. not much at all. Don't people take him as a backup to Ramires? If Rami plays every game, then he'll burn out. If Guarin can play his role, then I'll take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 This is leaving the problem until summer. Unfortunately we have a few matches between now and then.We need a midfielder and this guy could do a job for what is a relatively low fee. He's also free to play in the CL and probably close to his true market value and not the January panic-price.I believe we can get by with a midfield of Ramires,Lampard,Mikel,Chalobah and Essien till the end of the season without shelling out 15m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I believe we can get by with a midfield of Ramires,Lampard,Mikel,Chalobah and Essien till the end of the season without shelling out 15m.Rami, Guarin, Lamps, Chalobah would be good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,487 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I believe we can get by with a midfield of Ramires,Lampard,Mikel,Chalobah and Essien till the end of the season without shelling out 15m.I don't share that optimism. Guarin on loan would have been perfect tbh but I wouldn't mind a transfer because Essien is surely leaving in the summer and Lampard is ageing. Guarin could be useful for another year atleastPretty random question btw, anyone know how's his English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Rami, Guarin, Lamps, Chalobah would be good too. Yeah but you and I both know that Mikel and Essien are going nowhere atleast until the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Rami, Guarin, Lamps, Chalobah would be good too. +1This needs to happen. Kid's being wasted at Forest and we need more bodies in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yeah but you and I both know that Mikel and Essien are going nowhere atleast until the summer.And Guarin may well take both their places. Financially it's not a massive commitment when you look at the possibility of getting those two off the books and possibly a transfer fee for Mikel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 If I were Jose, I´d buy every available midfielder in January. That way, one may work out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I don't share that optimism. Guarin on loan would have been perfect tbh but I wouldn't mind a transfer because Essien is surely leaving in the summer and Lampard is ageing. Guarin could be useful for another year atleastPretty random question btw, anyone know how's his English?Him on loan would be better then buying him outright imo.If he impresses then we can think about a permanent deal.And Guarin may well take both their places. Financially it's not a massive commitment when you look at the possibility of getting those two off the books and possibly a transfer fee for Mikel.We also have Romeu who is slowly but surely coming back into form so he can also take their places in the summer and we can use that 15m for other players in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Don't people take him as a backup to Ramires? If Rami plays every game, then he'll burn out. If Guarin can play his role, then I'll take him.Yeah well theoretically, Essien can play Ramires' role as well. Cabaye is the best player on that list, and he's not exactly "available" Guarin is not the only decent CM in Europe, but when you start taking into account how much players would actually cost (fee + wages) whether he's cup-tied or not, and how they would fit into this team, there's not many names that come to mind.Not available? He'd kill himself to get a move to a club like Chelsea. What about the other two I mentioned? What about someone like Ki who has been fantastic this season? What about some other CMs from the Serie A who are also not cup-tied (although I don't imagine that is something of great importance to Jose and the Chelsea board as the main concern is the league)? Players like Pjanic? Ilicic? If we want to do business with Inter then why not get their best CM and one of the most promising young play makers in Europe: Kovasic. I'm sure you'll find the Inter fans reaction to be much stronger if we are linked with him instead of Guarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 We also have Romeu who is slowly but surely coming back into form so he can also take their places in the summer and we can use that 15m for other players in the summer. Slowly, not too sure about surely. I like him but it remains to be seen how he does here although he deserves a chance (probably).Ultimately Guarin will have re-sale value whatever happens of at least £4-6 million. Mikel goes for £7-10 million and you've recouped that money. There's not much downside to this deal and quite a lot of upside when you look at this guys physical and technical tools.The question is whether Mourinho can get the best out of him in the short-term.'m sure you'll find the Inter fans reaction to be much stronger if we are linked with him instead of Guarin. And the Chelsea fans response would be much stronger if we were to sell Chalobah than Mikel. We have young players who can't get a game with us - we don't need to sign one from Inter, despite him being a promising player. He's one for the summer if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I believe we can get by with a midfield of Ramires,Lampard,Mikel,Chalobah and Essien till the end of the season without shelling out 15m.Not me. One injury to Ramires and that's us out of top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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