Fredy Guarin

[remains of the day 564]

He's very strong and can run all day, but his technical ability on the ball is rather weak. His best attribute is his pressing and defending. Just don't give him the ball on the attack.

Weak on the ball? Yeah, that's not true at all. I don't know where you got that idea from because he's actually known to be pretty sound technically. Yes he can defend, can run, can tackle etc, but he's also a strong passer. He's good at everything without excelling at anything in particular. As far as I'm aware, his ability on the ball and overall technique has never been in question. What people criticize him for is his decision making which can be inconsistent and poor at times. He tends to shoot a lot instead of picking out a teammate in a better position; considering that 'intricate interplay' is something we've been struggling to do, I wonder if Guarin won't just compound that problem.....but these are problems that can be ironed out by coaching instructions.

Anyway, we would all love an elite midfield talent, but (a non cup-tied) Guarin for 15 mill really isn't bad business - probably around the same amount spurs paid for Dembele and much less than Utd paid for Fellaini. In my opinion, Guarin offers far more than both and of course that doesn't mean we can't dip back into the transfer market in the summer for an elite centre mid.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Here, flip around in this thread: http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?10271-Fredy-Guar%EDn/page164

The views run the gamut on that thread with the overriding view being that he's inconsistent. Some say they're selling him too cheap and most are just moaning about those running the club (how weird ), and one person mentioned getting Mata in a cash + Guarin deal.

Normally I'm the first to hate these types of deals, and I'd have loved to have seen Chalobah given a go but that seems unlikely. What we have in Guarin is a guy with so many tools to be a great player, but he really hasn't put it all together. He's approaching his peak and maybe Jose thinks he's the guy who can make him really shine. £15 million isn't the worst price in the world and he has tremendous upside.

Worst comes to the worst we have another Mikel on our hands....although I think this guy might actually signal Mikel's exit.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Here, flip around in this thread: http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?10271-Fredy-Guar%EDn/page164

lol he's like the Mikel of Inter.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Disagree, can only be a combative defensive midfielder. Not convinced by this guy. A striker is still then top priority. We dominate games but are not clinical enough to win them.

We are shipping goals like mad right now, we need a combative mid... He can also score goals too. I see him as a guy who will spell Ramires or Frank when the schedule get congested. Ramires already looks fatigued and its only December. He can provide decent cover in those areas.... The only striker that is of value right now who isn't cup tied is Falcao the likelihood of him coming here in january look grim

[Pizy 18,360]

The views run the gamut on that thread with the overriding view being that he's inconsistent. Some say they're selling him too cheap and most are just moaning about those running the club (how weird ), and one person mentioned getting Mata in a cash + Guarin deal.

Normally I'm the first to hate these types of deals, and I'd have loved to have seen Chalobah given a go but that seems unlikely. What we have in Guarin is a guy with so many tools to be a great player, but he really hasn't put it all together. He's approaching his peak and maybe Jose thinks he's the guy who can make him really shine. £15 million isn't the worst price in the world and he has tremendous upside.

Worst comes to the worst we have another Mikel on our hands....although I think this guy might actually signal Mikel's exit.

Hope Mikel isn't sold. He's actually been solid when he's played this season.

Useful player for us. With Lamps (hopefully) calling it a career with us next summer we'll have 4 solid CM's in Ramires/Mikel/MvG/Guarin.

[bushman 2,043]

http://www.sportskeeda.com/2013/12/17/scout-report-fredy-guarin/?ref=sportspage-recent-9

Well boys, read on. If true, he might be valuable, see above.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

In my eyes Guarin doesn't walk into our XI he is a stop gap because we lost Van Ginkel for the year. He will spell Lamps and Rami and allow us to play a proper 4-3-3 in a pinch. Mikel at the base with Ramires and Guarin is a very good midfield 3.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He has to be better than one-knee-Essien and sideways-pass-Mikel, right?

[bushman 2,043]

He has to be better than one-knee-Essien and sideways-pass-Mikel, right?

& slow poke Frank ?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

& slow poke Frank ?

Frank is capable of playing very, very well (look at West Ham, for instance). His problem is he is playing too often because of a lack of CM options - he should be being employed like Giggs at United, not playing 90% of our matches.

[Waterfall 893]

I don't think anyone was questioning the quality of Willian, though. That is the main issue here with Guarin: He's just not good enough. When the fans of a mid-table Italian team are happy to see him gone, then that tells you all you need to know about him.

I trust Jose's judgment over fans of a mid-table Italian team. We'll see how good Guarin can be for Chelsea when he gets here. Sometimes you just need the right fit, especially when the player in question has problem, not in quality, but in consistency (see Sturridge at Liverpool)

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

http://www.sportskeeda.com/2013/12/17/scout-report-fredy-guarin/?ref=sportspage-recent-9

Well boys, read on. If true, he might be valuable, see above.

That report is rubbish

[yuvala 2,167]

Well from what I see he's a decent prospect, would do the job for us and in the summer we can look for a top CM

[The only place to be 11,313]

Mikel at the base with Ramires and Guarin is a very good midfield 3.

Leaving Mata, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle and Hazard fighting over two spots?

Ain't gonna happen.

Hope Mikel isn't sold. He's actually been solid when he's played this season.

Useful player for us. With Lamps (hopefully) calling it a career with us next summer we'll have 4 solid CM's in Ramires/Mikel/MvG/Guarin.

He's had a couple of good games, but mostly he's just filled a shirt. His impact on matches is minimal.

[bushman 2,043]

Frank is capable of playing very, very well (look at West Ham, for instance). His problem is he is playing too often because of a lack of CM options - he should be being employed like Giggs at United, not playing 90% of our matches.

I agree, Frank is still playing well. I am even sad to see him playing a bit more defensively, I missed him popping goals.

Perhaps, this Ferdy, if signed, Frank gets to play up top more & pops one or two in.

[bushman 2,043]

That report is rubbish

Why is that ?

[Sheva. 5,373]

Leaving Mata, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle and Hazard fighting over two spots?

Ain't gonna happen.

Won't happen consistently yeah, but a good option to have for tough away games in the 2nd half of the season.

Man city away for example.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Guarin - Ramires

Guarin - Mikel

Guarin - Lampard

all look more appealing than any of our current midfield pairings, IMO.