Special Juan 28,188 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I've said before I am not fully sold on this bloke, but the idea of Costa, Mandzukic and (Insert name here) is a damn sight more exciting than what we have seen this season.It was getting so annoying that I would of preferred Kermit, Miss Piggy and Morph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodasys 40 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Any transfer to Chelsea is not a swap, despite Bild saying that as a headline grab. They go on to explain that Chelsea are in negotiations for Mandzukic and Bayern are in negotiations for David Luiz, the two deals do not depend on one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pWneR 230 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Dortmund - agree, but it could happen if he force it, Dortmund have no strikerAdrian Ramos is going to Dortmund, and he had solid season in bundesliga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If we switch to the diamond formation we used during mourinho's first time here, it will be nice for us to have 2 finishers (costa and mandzukic) in the starting lineup. Both are used to playing with strike partners (muller and villa) and they both work hard off the ball and had their best seasons in a pressing system. Exciting times ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Costa + Mandzukic would be a dream come true... Please make it happen Chelsea FC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Only want this guy if we also get Costa. To be able to have Costa for the big games and then Mandzukic to be able to come in and give Costa a rest, whilst also having the option of playing the two up top.Come on Chels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Maybe Chelsea are just trying to play Barcelona here and this our way of starting a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Okay, I think we should leave that Russian clubs and money topic for now. I said that they are just possible destinations, not that they are really interested in Mandzukic anyways. As my point is that it is better playing as a first choice in smaller CL clubs rather than on the bench in a top clubs.Yeah, but City play with 2 strikers in front, and we play with 1 striker, that is a huge difference. No way he would be happy to play mostly as a sub. As I said earlier if Mandzukic ready to play as a second choice, I bet he would stay at Bayern, but my main point is he will not. Surely he will choose a club that can guarantee the first choice as well as CL football, like Arsenal, Atletico, Roma, Dortmund, etc. And with Diego Costa looks like a done deal (I am sure Jose convinced him to come as a first choice striker), I don't think Chelsea will be in top of Mandzukic's list.If you think they are not that much different, why we should have both when we only play with 1 striker? Young player like Lukaku will be much better as a sub or backup.u brought the russian clubs and napoli/bvb/atm... none of whom seem to be interested in him.dzeko is their 3rd choice striker, in a 2 striker system while mandzukic will be 2nd striker in a 1 striker system. also, city have a lot of times gone to 4-2-3-1 with silva behind a lone striker. as i said before, mandzukic as a 2nd striker in bayern is VERY DIFFERENT from mandzukic as a 2nd striekr for chelsea. i have given my reasons before. again u bring in clubs that have so far not been linked at all with him but u want to stop talking about russian clubs.they are different in strengths and abilities. costa is a brilliant dribbler, manzukic has a nice link-up play. they will be used accordingly to their strengths. buying both would probably be because united have 2 WC strikers - rooney, rvp, pool have SAS, city have 4 of them. hence jose wants to compete with them in that regards. when i said they is not much of a difference, i meant in their level and class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 u brought the russian clubs and napoli/bvb/atm... none of whom seem to be interested in him.dzeko is their 3rd choice striker, in a 2 striker system while mandzukic will be 2nd striker in a 1 striker system. also, city have a lot of times gone to 4-2-3-1 with silva behind a lone striker. as i said before, mandzukic as a 2nd striker in bayern is VERY DIFFERENT from mandzukic as a 2nd striekr for chelsea. i have given my reasons before. again u bring in clubs that have so far not been linked at all with him but u want to stop talking about russian clubs.they are different in strengths and abilities. costa is a brilliant dribbler, manzukic has a nice link-up play. they will be used accordingly to their strengths. buying both would probably be because united have 2 WC strikers - rooney, rvp, pool have SAS, city have 4 of them. hence jose wants to compete with them in that regards. when i said they is not much of a difference, i meant in their level and class.You who asked in the first place which clubs, and I give some list of clubs as example who qualified for CL that might become Mandzukic possible destinations as a first choice striker and also could offer decent money in transfer fee and wage. I'm not saying they've already interested in Mandzukic, but possibly yes, if Bayern ready to sell or Mandzukic want to go. Last time I check, Bayern board want him to stay and I've never seen quotes from Mandzukic that he is want to go. That's why there seems no one interested in him at media, until now.There is still huge difference as a backup behind 2 striker formation and behind 1 striker formation. In 2 striker formation like in City, if one of them injury or out of form and one else stay fit and scoring, you will still get your chance. Dzeko in when Aguero injured, despite one else fit and scoring, and then he is in when Negredo out of form, despite Aguero on fire, hence he has a lot of games in accumulation. Also as a sub, the chance is obviously bigger.In 1 striker formation, you have to wait the main striker injured or out of form, until you get your chance. As a sub the chance is more limited than with 2 striker formation. Agree that they're different type of striker. I think Costa style of play, which more fit in our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 According to Martin Lipton #CFC want Mandzukic, Luiz is gone. Deal time.nothing in his twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 CFC wants Mandzukic, but does Mandzukic want second place @ CFC?Doesn't make sense in my opinion, as he will be the second choice too in here behind Costa. Isn't it better for him to go to other clubs as a first choice striker? There are a lot of clubs who could offer that along with CL football and decent wages. It would be strange if he choose us instead.Rumour is that Chelsea will double his wages in a five-year contract.He will be 33 when his €6m per annum contract will run out. Do you think he is stupid enough to refuse this deal? 1st or 2nd choice, Mourinho will give him plenty of football time. And silverware, too, unlike Arsenal, Napoli, Roma. I don't even think those teams will offer him that kind of money in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodasys 40 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Mandzukic hasn't traveled with his team to Berlin for the cup final. Guardiola just explained it was a technical decision & he has no injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Mandzukic hasn't traveled with his team to Berlin for the cup final. Guardiola just explained it was a technical decision & he has no injuryWell its either a] Guardiola thinks he won't offer anything to the team and will waste a squad space or b] He's on his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 You who asked in the first place which clubs, and I give some list of clubs as example who qualified for CL that might be Mandzukic possible destinations as a first choice and offer decent money in transfer fee and wage. I'm not saying they've already interested in Mandzukic, but possibly yes if Bayern ready to sell or Mandzukic want to go. Last time I check, Bayern board want him to stay and I've never seen quotes from Mandzukic that he is want to go. That's why there seems no one interested in him at media, until their Luiz bid rumour.i asked which clubs he could go to and u gave a list of clubs, 99% of which, he has no chance to go. for a player wanting to leave, he does not always have to blow a trumpet thru mediaThere is still huge difference as a backup behind 2 striker formation and behind 1 striker formation. In 2 striker formation like in City, if one of them injury or out of form and one else stay fit and scoring, you will still get your chance. Dzeko in when Aguero injured, despite one else fit and scoring, also when Negredo out of form, despite Aguero on fire, hence he has a lot of games in accumulation. Also as a sub, the chance is obviously bigger.In 1 striker formation, you have to wait the main striker injured or out of form, until you get your chance. As a sub the chance is more limited than with 2 striker formation.Agree that they're different type of striker. I think Costa style of play, which more fit in our system.1st thing first, mandzukic and costa in the same squad would mean both the strikers fighting for the 1st squad position. please undersatand that this is real life and not fifa. look at torres and etoo. look at how they were played to their strengths. we did not have a 1st striker then and with these 2 it would be the same. also, city have played many times with just one striker when aguero is out. only after aguero continously got injured and negredo hopelessly lost form did dzeko get a real run in. mandzukic with the heyneckes bayern played in a way that would be closest to describing the way jose would want us to play. he definitely has more experience, a better CV. and the fact that we are discussing who would fit our system best should tell u that their wont be no outright first striker (unlike the situation generated by costa-lukaku scenario). hence saying mandzukic would simply come from bayern's bench to ours is wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 mandzukic is 27, costa is 25. lukaku is 20.simply cant see lukaku taking a 3rd striker role behind these guys. he has to know that his play time with these 2 in the squad reduces exponentially and too for coming years (not just one or 2.). I'm thinking this, Lukaku just turned 21 and has to know that playing for CFC means you have to be performing at a high level. He isn't ready to be an every game type striker for a club as massive a chelsea therefore, I would lock him up to a longer deal and keep him as our 3rd option. And not the type of 3rd option Ba was, I say play him in cups the odd CL games and a few EPL starts as well... We have to give him the opportunity to fight for the jersey before we look to move him, if he truly wants to be the best he will know this and not run from the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If we sign him the only thing Hazard, Willian, Schurrle etc. should work on in pre-season is crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If we sign him the only thing Hazard, Willian, Schurrle etc. should work on in pre-season is crossing.Most of the crosses he feeds off of come from Alaba and Lahm. Their wingers are similar to ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyzz 711 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 http://sportbild.bild.de/bundesliga/vereine/bundesliga/pep-schmeisst-mandzukic-aus-dem-kader-aus-bei-bayern--36005216.sport.htmlhe won't play for bayern again thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 i asked which clubs he could go to and u gave a list of clubs, 99% of which, he has no chance to go. for a player wanting to leave, he does not always have to blow a trumpet thru media1st thing first, mandzukic and costa in the same squad would mean both the strikers fighting for the 1st squad position. please undersatand that this is real life and not fifa. look at torres and etoo. look at how they were played to their strengths. we did not have a 1st striker then and with these 2 it would be the same. also, city have played many times with just one striker when aguero is out. only after aguero continously got injured and negredo hopelessly lost form did dzeko get a real run in. mandzukic with the heyneckes bayern played in a way that would be closest to describing the way jose would want us to play. he definitely has more experience, a better CV. and the fact that we are discussing who would fit our system best should tell u that their wont be no outright first striker (unlike the situation generated by costa-lukaku scenario). hence saying mandzukic would simply come from bayern's bench to ours is wrong!!!How could you so sure Mandzukic don't want to come if club like Arsenal or Atletico calling? Arsenal could do Ozil, Atletico have vacant striker position and they are one of top club now, striker who doesn't want to play for them, should've their head examined.I realized this is real life not football manager, that's why I think no player in a level of Mandzukic will just accept being a sub. No, you can't just assuming Eto'o - Torres treatment will works the same with Costa - Mandzukic. Eto'o is old and lack of sharpness, no way he is considered main striker at the first place, rotation is a must. Torres is Torres, Jose know we can't rely on him as a main striker, rotation is a must. Rotation between Eto'o - Torres naturally happened, because none are good enough to be our main / first choice striker.Now we have Costa. He is the main striker in Atletico who knocked us out in CL, one draw away to become la liga champion and in the final of CL. I believe Jose promised him the same role in here to convince him. No way he would want to come to Chelsea with rotation role. He will be our main / first choice striker at Chelsea, you like it or not. Any striker who want to join us after we've sign Costa must accept would become a real second choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrcfc 461 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Would be a good signing, but don't want him as our first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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