Koke

[didierforever 7,349]

He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.

And Koke was so great in the CL-final? When Real started to attack he became anonymus.

ATM "park the bus" as much as chelsea do. the difference is, koke and turan and greizemann are brilliant in counters. there decision making is a 100 times better than willian/oscar, their vision is a 100 times better than willian and oscar and their ball retention under pressure is better than willian and oscar.

ps - so there u go, koke will be a lot more suited to our "system" than oscar.

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

ATM "park the bus" as much as chelsea do. the difference is, koke and turan and greizemann are brilliant in counters. there decision making is a 100 times better than willian/oscar, their vision is a 100 times better than willian and oscar and their ball retention under pressure is better than willian and oscar.

ps - so there u go, koke will be a lot more suited to our "system" than oscar.

I think you underestimate our players. Turan 100 times better that Willian? The grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

[Reddish-Blue 2,495]

He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.

And Koke was so great in the CL-final? When Real started to attack he became anonymus.

I have to agree with this point, I don't think Oscar is suited to playing 35+ games of high intensity Premier League football

I still believe he's a good player, just needs to move to a different league...

[Jase 43,479]

He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.

Convenient.

I think you underestimate our players. Turan 100 times better that Willian? The grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

OR one could turn around and say "I think you're overestimating our players. Man, those blue tinted glasses sure look good, doesn't it?"...

[LondonsFinest 692]

Koke doesn't worth twice as much as Oscar. 20 million would be ridiculous for him. We selled Lukaku, Schürrle, Mata or De Bruyne for more money.

Oscar hasn't done much to be a 35 mil. player. Watching him regularly and closely will prove that. A player with far less vision, as tiped. A player able to stagnate some attacks not being able to dribble past his opponent or initiate a good one - two pass. I'm not saying he isn't good. He is. Just not for Chelsea. I don't see many sides where Oscar would slide in, that are world class. Tell me, are there any? Arda/James/Rakitic/Gotze/Pastore(Lucas, depending on how PSG line up). I dare even to say that Kagawa and Mkhitariyan are twice the versatile and active players compared to Oscar.

Shpping Oscar away for anything bigger than the suppose 18.3 mil. we dished for him in the first place, is a steal, and if we are to, in the process, lower the expected fee for Koke, than that is and will be considered fantastic business.

[Jase 43,479]

I have to agree with this point, I don't think Oscar is suited to playing 35+ games of high intensity Premier League football

I still believe he's a good player, just needs to move to a different league...

Curious to see how would Oscar actually perform if he has a summer break, taking time off from football altogether. Will he be consistent from start to finish OR only turn up for the first half of the season before going AWOL?

[didierforever 7,349]

I think you underestimate our players. Turan 100 times better that Willian? The grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

have you ever seen turan play???

there is no comparision between the 2 players defensively as willian is a complete work horse but turan is a brilliant RW/forward.

i honestly doubt you have seen either of koke/turan play if you say something like "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence",

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

i honestly doubt you have seen either of koke/turan play if you say something like "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence",

Why? Because my opinion is different yours?

Atleti works well as a team but I don't think Turan THAT great.

Koke is outstanding, very talented, but I'm not sure if he'd fit in. I think we should rahter buy a CM(Pogba or Gomes) and switch to 4-3-3.

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

OR one could turn around and say "I think you're overestimating our players. Man, those blue tinted glasses sure look good, doesn't it?"...

I'm trying to stay objective. I never said Oscar was better nor he is a world class, but I think it's ridiculous to say that Koke is worth 2-3 times much as him or Koke is 100 times better than him They are both great.

[didierforever 7,349]

Why? Because my opinion is different yours?

Atleti works well as a team but I don't think Turan THAT great.

Koke is outstanding, very talented, but I'm not sure if he'd fit in. I think we should rahter buy a CM(Pogba or Gomes) and switch to 4-3-3.

oh well..

no problem. u can have your "opinion" about turan

as for koke. i have not just said that its my opinion, but also why that is my "opinion". where as al you have done is stated your "opinion" which is "koke would not fit in"

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

oh well..

no problem. u can have your "opinion" about turan

as for koke. i have not just said that its my opinion, but also why that is my "opinion". where as al you have done is stated your "opinion" which is "koke would not fit in"

Damn, why are you so passive agressive? We are just talking about football, don't take my word as offense.

I think Koke would have the same problems here: he wouldn't get enough creative freedom. Oscar and Willian have problems with this. That's why I think we should sign a powerful CM instead.

This is my opinion, my point of view. Of course you can disagree but please answer in a more "friendly" way, it's not war.

[cármenes 21]

Damn, why are you so passive agressive? We are just talking about football, don't take my word as offense.

I think Koke would have the same problems here: he wouldn't get enough creative freedom. Oscar and Willian have problems with this. That's why I think we should sign a powerful CM instead.

This is my opinion, my point of view. Of course you can disagree but please answer in a more "friendly" way, it's not war.

Koke is very much a 'powerful' CM and would fit into the team perfectly, even better than Fabregas imo (I have an opinion on this guy but it's a discussion for another day, I guess). He's got creativity, an eye for a through ball, while still working hard as a horse. With all space he'd get in the Premier Leauge, he'd just be another star player, like Alexis or Costa or most players coming from La Liga for that matter.

[Oscar 441]

Koke is very much a 'powerful' CM and would fit into the team perfectly, even better than Fabregas imo (I have an opinion on this guy but it's a discussion for another day, I guess). He's got creativity, an eye for a through ball, while still working hard as a horse. With all space he'd get in the Premier Leauge, he'd just be another star player, like Alexis or Costa or most players coming from La Liga for that matter.

Do you think Koke and Cesc would work out?

I for one think that Koke would replace Cesc since Koke is a better version of Cesc is now.

[didierforever 7,349]

Damn, why are you so passive agressive? We are just talking about football, don't take my word as offense.

I think Koke would have the same problems here: he wouldn't get enough creative freedom. Oscar and Willian have problems with this. That's why I think we should sign a powerful CM instead.

This is my opinion, my point of view. Of course you can disagree but please answer in a more "friendly" way, it's not war.

i am taking offense cos you are taking 1 adding 1 to it and repeatedly coming up with 43.

we dont park the bus in majority of the games. infact except for city away, we did not "park the bus" in any game until the turn of the year.

city(h&a), psg(a), spurs(final), pool(league cup).. all in all you can count the number of games on your fingers in which we went with that mentality.

and then comes the point of the games, where we ARE parking the bus. koke is still better suited in that aspect of the game than oscar. moreover he has shown in the last 2 years, that he is more than just well suited.

having an opinion is fine but repeatedly iterating that opinion without any proof or argument is bordering on....

[iseah100 5,612]

King Leonidas is better than our Willian. Fasho.