BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Yes, but ...When I see Isco, Iniesta and David Silva in one team then Koke looks like a robot. For real, those 3 are artists with so much flair, Koke looks far less talented. Of course Koke is wonderful player but he's "trained" player and he's here because of training more than anything. This is glaring and more fragrant when he is on the same pitch with exciting players around him.And I somehow have my doubts how Koke is 60m player - you really would like to have some magnificent and flair player for that figure, who would take you of your sit with every touch like Iniesta.(That's just a digression, still would snap hand for Koke here)(Juanfran is another one who looks bad on the eye comparing with others. Like a fucking mechanical toy which is cranked to work.).This is chelsea. Koke would suit us more than isco iniesta etc.Koke is engine that works well and few notice his importance. Isco is all about flair, little tricks that mean shit in our setup and in big games. Modric is good example why simplicity wins over flair any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Surprised nobody has posted this.According to sources in England, Chelsea are ready to make the first formal offer for Atletico Madrid midfielder Koke (AS) #CFC #Atletico€60m is required and what #CFC are willing to offer to acquire the services of Koke. Mourinho has already given his approval. (AS) #AtleticoMake it happen Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Oscar would be off if we sign Koke most probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Surprised nobody has posted this.According to sources in England, Chelsea are ready to make the first formal offer for Atletico Madrid midfielder Koke (AS) #CFC #Atletico€60m is required and what #CFC are willing to offer to acquire the services of Koke. Mourinho has already given his approval. (AS) #AtleticoMake it happen Jose.It's funny how these rumours spread. An English paper makes up some BS and soon there's sources in Spain quoting them. Further sources in England then quote the 'sources in Spain (AS)...' and before you know it the rumours have become elaborate, widely sourced and more believable (but still unfounded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dream scenario. Ship off Oscar for 20 - 25 mil. and get Koke for 44 or Pogba for 55. Tears of joy, will come to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dream scenario. Ship off Oscar for 20 - 25 mil. and get Koke for 44 or Pogba for 55. Tears of joy, will come to my eyes.oscar will go for at least 35mil ; and koke wont go for less than his alleged 50mil buyout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dream scenario. Ship off Oscar for 20 - 25 mil. and get Koke for 44 or Pogba for 55. Tears of joy, will come to my eyes.Koke doesn't worth twice as much as Oscar. 20 million would be ridiculous for him. We selled Lukaku, Schürrle, Mata or De Bruyne for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 "According to sources in England"Damn i didnt noticed it the first time i read... got excited Thats better... Atlético Madrid sporting director: "Club has decided to take back Oliver Torres & Alderweireld this summer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Koke doesn't worth twice as much as Oscar. 20 million would be ridiculous for him. We selled Lukaku, Schürrle, Mata or De Bruyne for more money.yes he does. koke is an exceptional player. he has everything in his arsenal that oscar has (workrate and defending) along with an immense range of passing and good vision, quick one touch passing. his set piece delivery is one of the best i have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 yes he does. koke is an exceptional player. he has everything in his arsenal that oscar has (workrate and defending) along with an immense range of passing and good vision, quick one touch passing. his set piece delivery is one of the best i have seen.I'm not sure if Koke would be so amazing in Mourinho's bus parking system. Also, I think Oscar would be great at Atleti or any team that let him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I'm not sure if Koke would be so amazing in Mourinho's bus parking system. Also, I think Oscar would be great at Atleti or any team that let him play.So, when Oscar plays well, it's because of him. But when he doesn't play well, it's because of Mourinho's supposed 'park the bus' approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 So, when Oscar plays well, it's because of him. But when he doesn't play well, it's because of Mourinho's supposed 'park the bus' approach.I just think Mourinho's tactic doesn't suit him. Is that so illogical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I'm not sure if Koke would be so amazing in Mourinho's bus parking system. Also, I think Oscar would be great at Atleti or any team that let him play.so simeone does not "park the bus"?? what exactly did he do against barca in CL last season or RM in the final or against juve or etv etc etc..ATM "park the bus" as much as chelsea do. the difference is, koke and turan and greizemann are brilliant in counters. there decision making is a 100 times better than willian/oscar, their vision is a 100 times better than willian and oscar and their ball retention under pressure is better than willian and oscar.ps - so there u go, koke will be a lot more suited to our "system" than oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I just think Mourinho's tactic doesn't suit him. Is that so illogical?But I don't see you bringing up this point when Oscar plays well. Why only mention this when he's off form (if you can call it that)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 But I don't see you bringing up this point when Oscar plays well. Why only mention this when he's off form (if you can call it that)?He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.so simeone does not "park the bus"?? what exactly did he do against barca in CL last season or RM in the final or against juve or etv etc etc..And Koke was so great in the CL-final? When Real started to attack he became anonymus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.And Koke was so great in the CL-final? When Real started to attack he became anonymus.ATM "park the bus" as much as chelsea do. the difference is, koke and turan and greizemann are brilliant in counters. there decision making is a 100 times better than willian/oscar, their vision is a 100 times better than willian and oscar and their ball retention under pressure is better than willian and oscar.ps - so there u go, koke will be a lot more suited to our "system" than oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 ATM "park the bus" as much as chelsea do. the difference is, koke and turan and greizemann are brilliant in counters. there decision making is a 100 times better than willian/oscar, their vision is a 100 times better than willian and oscar and their ball retention under pressure is better than willian and oscar.ps - so there u go, koke will be a lot more suited to our "system" than oscar.I think you underestimate our players. Turan 100 times better that Willian? The grass is greener on the other side of the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.And Koke was so great in the CL-final? When Real started to attack he became anonymus.I have to agree with this point, I don't think Oscar is suited to playing 35+ games of high intensity Premier League footballI still believe he's a good player, just needs to move to a different league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 He is underperforming at Chelsea, even if he is in a good form. I think he is not able to do his best here.Convenient.I think you underestimate our players. Turan 100 times better that Willian? The grass is greener on the other side of the fence.OR one could turn around and say "I think you're overestimating our players. Man, those blue tinted glasses sure look good, doesn't it?"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Koke doesn't worth twice as much as Oscar. 20 million would be ridiculous for him. We selled Lukaku, Schürrle, Mata or De Bruyne for more money. Oscar hasn't done much to be a 35 mil. player. Watching him regularly and closely will prove that. A player with far less vision, as tiped. A player able to stagnate some attacks not being able to dribble past his opponent or initiate a good one - two pass. I'm not saying he isn't good. He is. Just not for Chelsea. I don't see many sides where Oscar would slide in, that are world class. Tell me, are there any? Arda/James/Rakitic/Gotze/Pastore(Lucas, depending on how PSG line up). I dare even to say that Kagawa and Mkhitariyan are twice the versatile and active players compared to Oscar. Shpping Oscar away for anything bigger than the suppose 18.3 mil. we dished for him in the first place, is a steal, and if we are to, in the process, lower the expected fee for Koke, than that is and will be considered fantastic business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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