1chelsea 864 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 you know Mourinho really is The Special One when all goals Mikel scored was under him and Torres is voted the MOTM twice in a row. One has gotta to be special to make those things happen. And I don't get why in the live thread match I said where could I sign for this Torres to never leave and some (rude) guy said it could be in his butt cheek... Torres is playing really well and I'm sure much better than said butt check Mata finally playing well. We desperately need him to play at his best level and Mourinho already said he's going to start against Steua. He continues to lose some balls - and a couple of them today were in dangerous zones (one of them near the corner - in our field), but some things about him won't change and if he can contribute in the attack we can hope that those kind of balls won't compromise. He's been trying hard though and that's more than many on his place would have done. He's classy and a fighter and changed the game for us. Torres my MOTM though. He was absolutely great and I wonder what his critics will say now, because in his thread earlier this week they were badmouthing him because it was against Swindon. Today he raped the best defense in the EPL. So what now? So now he should continue kicking ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Not worth to reply.Yet you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 and that's fair. We disagree about it. I think if Mata doesn't take responsibility in the work rate we expose our already weak pivot... you may disagree. Mourinho acted on what he believed was better for the team and seeing as how the teams in Manchester are struggling, I think our adaptation isn't even affecting our run for the title that much.As for the individual players, it happens, bush, let's not deny it happens because it does. Mata isn't the only one, Hazard, Torres, Mikel among others have had situations that it seemed like people were putting them above the club's interests and the manager's objectives (whether because they're supposedly too good or too bad). It happens and for some people it's normal, for others it's annoying...Also I never told Mata should be sold, I didn't take part in the comments suggesting he should. I did say months ago that if he was benched too much he would leave the club - but it doesn't need to be an Einstein to come to that conclusion. He's a top player, if he doesn't fit for whatever reason, after one season he will probably want to leave. But I'm against him leaving and I've said in the so nice thread about who should be our #10 that we desperately need him to perform in high level because Oscar on his best day isn't nearly creative as he is. But we also need him to take defensive responsibilities imo.So how about both of us be happy as Mata is playing better, showed incredible attitude to press and tackle today and still could be consistent in the attack? Also both Mans lost, so it only ices the cake I don't know why you say I keep flaming discussions if you're the only one that reacts, lol I discuss with other people here all the time and I don't feel disrespected by them and they never told me they felt disrespected by me. Once again I think my comments must hit close to home to you.Also if you can't distinguish what's moan about the team, the club, the board, the manager and assessing individual performances on matches I can't do anything. The only player I have been complaining about is Hazard. I don't expect you to agree on that. But I'm not the only one, so yeah, I guess other people also think he's been one of our worse players this season... About Mata, I post an worshiping post about him 30 minutes ago.Really, go read other threads and see if people are reacting to me the way you think they are. They aren't.My post on the pub was because I don't get why people moan so much in between the matches about everything related to the club, but I even asked Raphael if he feels that's a cultural thing as in Brazil we are much more carefree about our clubs and only react during matches.I think you should learn better what barraqueira is, as after all the word in portuguese describes your post much better than describes any of mine.One thing still puzzle me about you dear bara.So much written but so little said. Repetitiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I thought it was a good game. Freaking woke up at 6:30am, but left to go to the gym when Jose went for the draw...EL NINO I SAW and Vertoghen/Dawson were pretty crappy today...On the other hand, Townsend and Walker were ripping apart the left side and I've come to the conclusion we have the most unathletic center midfield combo in Mikel-Lampard in probably the whole BPL.... Anyways, Tottenham have been playing well, so a draw isn't that bad of a result.....On a side note, we really need to decide what we're going to do with our ams... Too many on the squad and we play defensively ALOT, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Impressive performance in 2nd half until the undeserved red card. Torres looked very good, so did Mata. I'm happy for Mata, a lot of things clicked for him today and he showed his worth.All in all 1-1 away at Spurs is an okay result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z6DD7-EMLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 commentary on BT was about the most biased ive heard and that includes andy fucking gray and tony tosspot gale ...Owen Hargreavs before the game called Willian and Lamela number 10's It wouldn't wind me up so much if they weren't on good money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Oh did he ?I don´t think so. Jose has done nothing to better Mata. Today, Mata showed us what he is all about.He just needs to play as No 10 & your samba boy needs to watch closely. perhaps, you should stick with your stats, you are good at it.to call Oscar a samba boy is disgraceful and demonstrates your ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 So, if Terry didn't score, would people still have the same reaction towards Mata play today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol123 175 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 to call Oscar a samba boy is disgraceful and demonstrates your ignorance Just put him on ignore like everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well now that the euphoria has died down I want to mention that I hope we don't see another Ramires-Mikel Lampard lineup again. It's really woeful! Just stick with the double pivot and use Schurrle, Willian, KDB and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Sandro didn't even play /facepalmYou need to get Sandro's shaft out of your mouth he's not nearly as good as you'd like to believe he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 tell me schurrle was terrible because he didnt score cause other wise he was not bad incepted a couple of passes and was looking to get in behind i feel some of you are way too critical..hazard missed chances too but you don't call him terrible this game.. how about everyone who played did their part and leave it at thatJust so we're clear his conversion rate last year was a paltry 9.1% he tends to shoot a lot with little end product. He hasn't shown me much more than speed so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 A lot of people commenting on Mata's introduction as the turning point. I agree he was good but the turning point was returning Ramires to a position where he can influence the game. He was fantastic in the pivot winning balls and making important tackles high up the pitch.I though Mata was good not brilliant, he def needs to start games for us though.Torres also had a good game and is a lock to start the CL game. He's playing with real passion and desire.Terry and Luiz were rock solid, Ivanovic not so much, Cole getting back to himself...I think we need to organize a search party for Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The Spanish have got their shit sorted out. Now its up to the Brazilians, Belgians, and English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z6DD7-EMLEI agreed with what he said. Some people here are cursing out the ref, but just like Mourinho I thought the ref was really great today. The sending of was more because of Vertonghen simulation. He acted like he got elbow which he did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 To some, Mata was good, to me he changed the game after he came on.It proves my relentless postings here, my point is still the same.Mata must play as No 10 ahead of Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Ok. But still, the first half was bad :-) Mou had it wrong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 To some, Mata was good, to me he changed the game after he came on.It proves my relentless postings here, my point is still the same.Mata must play as No 10 ahead of Oscar.I am so pleased Jose is our manager and not you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 I agreed with what he said. Some people here are cursing out the ref, but just like Mourinho I thought the ref was really great today. The sending of was more because of Vertonghen simulation. He acted like he got elbow which he did not. Apart from Mike Dean's brainfart moment to send Torres off for no good reason, thought he did well. He allowed the game to flow and was calm in handling the foul or any skirmishes between players for a big game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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