Closed Spurs 1-1 Chelsea

[robsblubot 3,504]

Mourinho made a mistake today by not subbing off Torres. Yes Torres was MotM for me too, but I could see he was going to pick the second yellow any time and I recjon our coaches should've seen it too. I know it's tough to sub the best player on the pitch, but you do what's best for the team.

As usual I'm unhappy with Mikel's performance, yes his passing was mostly good but his defensive work not so much. I don't understand, for example, why he always jogs back when he's behind the line of play; he should've been sprinting to get back and try to help as soon as possible. An additional man in the box could've prevented the passing and Spurs goal.

Oscar crosses were bad because they were all low. He should've lifted the ball in most of them. Hazard had a very good first half in my view. Like the way he moved and his aggression. JT and Luiz were great.

BTW, I voted Torres for MotM, but Ramires was a monster in the middle; his defensive work, movement and speed were just too good for Spurs. Mata had a great second half too, as expected.

BTW2, I still wanted to have gotten Debele - great pivot player.

Flashes of greatness in the second half... hopefully we can build on that.

[bushman 2,043]

I don't expect to convince a hater tthat he's wrong so keep doing your thing

Not worth to reply.

[1chelsea 864]

you know Mourinho really is The Special One when all goals Mikel scored was under him and Torres is voted the MOTM twice in a row.

One has gotta to be special to make those things happen.

And I don't get why in the live thread match I said where could I sign for this Torres to never leave and some (rude) guy said it could be in his butt cheek... Torres is playing really well and I'm sure much better than said butt check

Mata finally playing well. We desperately need him to play at his best level and Mourinho already said he's going to start against Steua.

He continues to lose some balls - and a couple of them today were in dangerous zones (one of them near the corner - in our field), but some things about him won't change and if he can contribute in the attack we can hope that those kind of balls won't compromise. He's been trying hard though and that's more than many on his place would have done. He's classy and a fighter and changed the game for us.

Torres my MOTM though. He was absolutely great and I wonder what his critics will say now, because in his thread earlier this week they were badmouthing him because it was against Swindon. Today he raped the best defense in the EPL. So what now?

So now he should continue kicking ass

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Not worth to reply.

Yet you did

[bushman 2,043]

and that's fair. We disagree about it. I think if Mata doesn't take responsibility in the work rate we expose our already weak pivot... you may disagree. Mourinho acted on what he believed was better for the team and seeing as how the teams in Manchester are struggling, I think our adaptation isn't even affecting our run for the title that much.

As for the individual players, it happens, bush, let's not deny it happens because it does. Mata isn't the only one, Hazard, Torres, Mikel among others have had situations that it seemed like people were putting them above the club's interests and the manager's objectives (whether because they're supposedly too good or too bad). It happens and for some people it's normal, for others it's annoying...

Also I never told Mata should be sold, I didn't take part in the comments suggesting he should. I did say months ago that if he was benched too much he would leave the club - but it doesn't need to be an Einstein to come to that conclusion. He's a top player, if he doesn't fit for whatever reason, after one season he will probably want to leave. But I'm against him leaving and I've said in the so nice thread about who should be our #10 that we desperately need him to perform in high level because Oscar on his best day isn't nearly creative as he is. But we also need him to take defensive responsibilities imo.

So how about both of us be happy as Mata is playing better, showed incredible attitude to press and tackle today and still could be consistent in the attack? Also both Mans lost, so it only ices the cake

I don't know why you say I keep flaming discussions if you're the only one that reacts, lol I discuss with other people here all the time and I don't feel disrespected by them and they never told me they felt disrespected by me. Once again I think my comments must hit close to home to you.

Also if you can't distinguish what's moan about the team, the club, the board, the manager and assessing individual performances on matches I can't do anything. The only player I have been complaining about is Hazard. I don't expect you to agree on that. But I'm not the only one, so yeah, I guess other people also think he's been one of our worse players this season... About Mata, I post an worshiping post about him 30 minutes ago.

Really, go read other threads and see if people are reacting to me the way you think they are. They aren't.

My post on the pub was because I don't get why people moan so much in between the matches about everything related to the club, but I even asked Raphael if he feels that's a cultural thing as in Brazil we are much more carefree about our clubs and only react during matches.

I think you should learn better what barraqueira is, as after all the word in portuguese describes your post much better than describes any of mine.

One thing still puzzle me about you dear bara.

So much written but so little said. Repetitiously.

[Korea 734]

I thought it was a good game. Freaking woke up at 6:30am, but left to go to the gym when Jose went for the draw...

EL NINO I SAW and Vertoghen/Dawson were pretty crappy today...

On the other hand, Townsend and Walker were ripping apart the left side and I've come to the conclusion we have the most unathletic center midfield combo in Mikel-Lampard in probably the whole BPL....

Anyways, Tottenham have been playing well, so a draw isn't that bad of a result.....

On a side note, we really need to decide what we're going to do with our ams... Too many on the squad and we play defensively ALOT, so....

[manpe 10,861]

Impressive performance in 2nd half until the undeserved red card. Torres looked very good, so did Mata. I'm happy for Mata, a lot of things clicked for him today and he showed his worth.

All in all 1-1 away at Spurs is an okay result.

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z6DD7-EMLE

[Tomo 21,733]

commentary on BT was about the most biased ive heard and that includes andy fucking gray and tony tosspot gale ...

Owen Hargreavs before the game called Willian and Lamela number 10's

It wouldn't wind me up so much if they weren't on good money.

[zolayes 14,489]

Oh did he ?

I don´t think so. Jose has done nothing to better Mata. Today, Mata showed us what he is all about.

He just needs to play as No 10 & your samba boy needs to watch closely. perhaps, you should stick with your stats, you are good at it.

to call Oscar a samba boy is disgraceful and demonstrates your ignorance

[Korea 734]

So, if Terry didn't score, would people still have the same reaction towards Mata play today?

[Symbol123 175]

to call Oscar a samba boy is disgraceful and demonstrates your ignorance

Just put him on ignore like everyone else

[Fernando 6,464]

Well now that the euphoria has died down I want to mention that I hope we don't see another Ramires-Mikel Lampard lineup again.

It's really woeful!

Just stick with the double pivot and use Schurrle, Willian, KDB and such.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Sandro didn't even play /facepalm

You need to get Sandro's shaft out of your mouth he's not nearly as good as you'd like to believe he is.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

tell me schurrle was terrible because he didnt score cause other wise he was not bad incepted a couple of passes and was looking to get in behind i feel some of you are way too critical..hazard missed chances too but you don't call him terrible this game.. how about everyone who played did their part and leave it at that

Just so we're clear his conversion rate last year was a paltry 9.1% he tends to shoot a lot with little end product. He hasn't shown me much more than speed so far this year.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

A lot of people commenting on Mata's introduction as the turning point. I agree he was good but the turning point was returning Ramires to a position where he can influence the game. He was fantastic in the pivot winning balls and making important tackles high up the pitch.

I though Mata was good not brilliant, he def needs to start games for us though.

Torres also had a good game and is a lock to start the CL game. He's playing with real passion and desire.

Terry and Luiz were rock solid, Ivanovic not so much, Cole getting back to himself...

I think we need to organize a search party for Hazard.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

The Spanish have got their shit sorted out. Now its up to the Brazilians, Belgians, and English

[Fernando 6,464]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z6DD7-EMLE

I agreed with what he said.

Some people here are cursing out the ref, but just like Mourinho I thought the ref was really great today.

The sending of was more because of Vertonghen simulation. He acted like he got elbow which he did not.