Closed Chelsea 2-0 Fulham

[BluesChick 1,260]

so mou is criticising Mata in public and saying he should play RW and change his style etc. Could mean that Juan is off already in January. showing no respect for our best player of the last 2 years...unbelievable.

Have found him to be contradicting really. He said Mata hasn't been playing well, needs to work harder and find that consistency. But yet at the same time, he continues to play Cole, Lampard, Hazard etc when they haven't exactly been doing all those things Mourinho asked Mata to do. And just like before the match today, said he rotated the midfield to keep things fresh after the tough game in midweek but continues to play Hazard when he has been struggling a bit of late.

He is playing mind games as he always has done. He is pushing at Mata specifically. My guess (or fear) is that he wants Mata unhappy enough to request to permission to transfer but my hope is he is trying to make him fight for his spot. It is hard to say with Jose and one of my least favorite things about him. I detest mind games in any aspect of life.

I was shocked to hear Mikel scored... more than it shocked me to hear that it was his first for Chelsea! Someone above mentioned it above, that he could be a great player if he would just mature and be more composed. I have to agree but I have to wonder how long we are supposed to wait for this to happen. It isn't like he is 20 years old anymore or in his first few seasons.

Happy with the win, have read the review and your comments, but missed the game as it was on after midnight here and already asleep since I was not feeling well.

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[The Mak 4,459]

Great to get the win but it wasn't convincing. It easily could've been another disappointing day at the office. I know they say it's a hallmark of a great team to be able to grind out a result or 'win ugly', but that usually implies that the team usually plays well - we really haven't so far this season (Bayern was a different type of game).

I can understand some of José's methods, like playing Brana because he's a boss from set-pieces, but as long as we're unconvincing on the pitch people will be (quite rightly) unconvinced with some of these methods (Mata etc.). Hoping we pick up form a.s.a.p.

One thing though, Hazard should've been dropped before this game.

He's been average thus far and had his worst game ever against Basel and he simply didn't face any repercussion for it. It was Schurrle from the LW who made the difference for the 1st goal today. It's one thing to have all of these quality AMs, but it's another to persist with an out of form player while the rest sit on the bench; Mourinho is asking for trouble if he continues like this.

[English Freak 456]

We needed the win and the 3 points.

The Positive from the game: Mikel finally scores in the PL.

[CMS 382]

So I guess you did not see the 1x1 Bent had with Cech when our defenders played up the pitch and in a freaking line! people really see what they want to see...

That is what is got AVB fired. Playing high line with JT and cahill. Especially JT and his lack of pace. But if teams sit back, we have to push up. But the moment we lose the ball its counter attack and an opportunity on goal.

[CMS 382]

He is playing mind games as he always has done. He is pushing at Mata specifically. My guess (or fear) is that he wants Mata unhappy enough to request to permission to transfer but my hope is he is trying to make him fight for his spot. It is hard to say with Jose and one of my least favorite things about him. I detest mind games in any aspect of life.

I was shocked to hear Mikel scored... more than it shocked me to hear that it was his first for Chelsea! Someone above mentioned it above, that he could be a great player if he would just mature and be more composed. I have to agree but I have to wonder how long we are supposed to wait for this to happen. It isn't like he is 20 years old anymore or in his first few seasons.

Happy with the win, have read the review and your comments, but missed the game as it was on after midnight here and already asleep since I was not feeling well.

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Good observations. Long term Chelsea fans will tell you, this is Jose's way. I remember when Chelsea fought this protracted battle with Man U over Mikel and he came played a few games and was relegated to the reserves. Look at him now. Everyone seems to forget that Chelsea has had no style since the changing of the guards. Different managers and different philosophies. We have to have our own style instead of continuing on the same path of packing the bus and playing for counter attacks. This style is not going to get us someplace.

We have young players and a new squad, we need to develop our own pattern. Spain has their pattern and their top teams plays in the same format. Does England and English players have a pattern? We can't play like Spain, we are not Spaniards, nor are we Madristas or Catalonians. I wish people will let the man build his team and give us another team for another ten years. People seen to forget that the team Jose left was the one that won all these trophies for Chelsea. Before Jose we had no team. New team new philosophies and newer ideas. My two pence.

[Strike 7,489]

It's incredible how the atmosphere around the club changed with 1 win over Fulham.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

It's incredible how the atmosphere around the club changed with 1 win over Fulham.

Thank goodness for derby wins

[kellzfresh 7,229]

It's incredible how the atmosphere around the club changed with 1 win over Fulham.

Thank goodness for derby wins

[Strike 7,489]

Thank goodness for derby wins

and Mikel goals

[Stingray 9,441]

Going to bed with penis in hand and drunk.

Love you all.

This needs a bump :-)

[Toli 977]

Have found him to be contradicting really. He said Mata hasn't been playing well, needs to work harder and find that consistency. But yet at the same time, he continues to play Cole, Lampard, Hazard etc when they haven't exactly been doing all those things Mourinho asked Mata to do. And just like before the match today, said he rotated the midfield to keep things fresh after the tough game in midweek but continues to play Hazard when he has been struggling a bit of late.

that is he doing for quite some time. he also said at Madrid everbody would defend and attack- in the end Ronaldo didnt have to defend. I think is a clear agenda against Mata. its embarassing to let him play against Swindon ffs. and people on this board seem to just accept this. really no respect towards our player. Dont think Mata will accept to play on a position he isnt really used to and how can a player change his style in between a few weeks when he has played differently for 2 years now. a great coach has to adapt his team towards his best players. and our best player is mata...

[NishC300 1,865]

I completely disagree about André (not necessarily about Mata).

When a team parks the bus ahead of us we need width and penetration and he offers both. I think it's harder to play through the middle against teams lying too deep than not.

Mata has proven in the past he can unlock defences. e.g. FA Cup v United.

[Styles 9,790]

Mata has proven in the past he can unlock defences. e.g. FA Cup v United.

Schurrle helped make the first goal yesterday. He provided the assist for Torres against Bayern. We can all play this game.

[The only place to be 11,313]

that is he doing for quite some time. he also said at Madrid everbody would defend and attack- in the end Ronaldo didnt have to defend. I think is a clear agenda against Mata. its embarassing to let him play against Swindon ffs. and people on this board seem to just accept this. really no respect towards our player. Dont think Mata will accept to play on a position he isnt really used to and how can a player change his style in between a few weeks when he has played differently for 2 years now. a great coach has to adapt his team towards his best players. and our best player is mata...

Utter bollocks.

He's building a team for Chelsea....that's CHELSEA, not MATA FOOTBALL CLUB.

If Mata wants to play for this club then he has to do what Jose wants him to do. If he can't do that then we sell him. People can either support that decision or they can fuck off somewhere else. But I trust Jose. The club hopefully backs him because that's what this club needs in my opinion - stability at the top.

As for the game, Fulham sat deep like other teams have but we stepped it up in the second half. Oscar showed exactly why he's keeping Mata out of the team with another MOTM performance. Mikel actually played better against Everton but seems a different player under Mourinho.

Jose also explained in simple fucking language what he's doing and why he's doing it. How many managers can so eloquently tell pundits, journos and even supporters to shut the fuck up, and still do it with a smile on their face?

[Toli 977]

Utter bollocks.

He's building a team for Chelsea....that's CHELSEA, not MATA FOOTBALL CLUB.

If Mata wants to play for this club then he has to do what Jose wants him to do. If he can't do that then we sell him. People can either support that decision or they can fuck off somewhere else. But I trust Jose. The club hopefully backs him because that's what this club needs in my opinion - stability at the top.

As for the game, Fulham sat deep like other teams have but we stepped it up in the second half. Oscar showed exactly why he's keeping Mata out of the team with another MOTM performance. Mikel actually played better against Everton but seems a different player under Mourinho.

Jose also explained in simple fucking language what he's doing and why he's doing it. How many managers can so eloquently tell pundits, journos and even supporters to shut the fuck up, and still do it with a smile on their face?

Youre not the boss here to tell anybody to fuck off or not.. who do you think you are? yes a nobody. Mourinho is talking bullshit. Why isnt Hazard sitting on the bench, while he is playing awful? or why isnt he benching A.Cole? no he is benching our best player in the past 2 seasons and wants to put him in a position where he isnt able to play at his best. You have to build your teams around your best players and not otherwise. Its like coming in and putting Ronaldo as a DM and telling him "learn how to play my way or you can go". Oscar is great, no doubt, but atm, Mata is ahead of him in terms of creativity and goal threat. Futhermore with Mata on the pitch Hazard plays way better. I am by no means a Mata fanboy, but someone who has delivered for 2 !! years and almost carried us on his own DESERVES to be threated otherwise. thats my opinion. if you dont accept it, than fuck off (in your language).

[The only place to be 11,313]

Youre not the boss here to tell anybody to fuck off or not.. who do you think you are? yes a nobody. Mourinho is talking bullshit. Why isnt Hazard sitting on the bench, while he is playing awful?

Because Hazard will be a key player for us and we need to learn how to get him the ball when he's facing goal, not with his back to it. Jose said this in his interview yesterday.

or why isnt he benching A.Cole?

Because he doesn't trust Bertrand? Because he wants to keep the Hazard/Cole unit together so they learn how to play together in September so they're ready for Janaury-May?

no he is benching our best player in the past 2 seasons and wants to put him in a position where he isnt able to play at his best. You have to build your teams around your best players and not otherwise. Its like coming in and putting Ronaldo as a DM and telling him "learn how to play my way or you can go". Oscar is great, no doubt, but atm, Mata is ahead of him in terms of creativity and goal threat. Futhermore with Mata on the pitch Hazard plays way better. I am by no means a Mata fanboy, but someone who has delivered for 2 !! years and almost carried us on his own DESERVES to be threated otherwise. thats my opinion. if you dont accept it, than fuck off (in your language).

No, you build your team around the way your manager wants them to be built. That's why we hired him.

Mata is not irreplaceable - in fact he's been replaced by Oscar who has been our player of the season so far. He's been key to everything we've done and we're still building a new team. Despite that we're top of the league so I don't know what supporters like you actually want?

You'll get your commemorative title-winning patch to plaster on your kit next season - just ignore football until that's available on the megastore because it might be a bumpy ride and not always fun.

[Toli 977]

Oscar was good no question, but Mata was better than him the past 2 seasons, so what.

And Mata wont be a key player for us or what? why is hazard playing while he is playing shit and Mata isnt? where is the meritocracy Mou is known for?

yeah we are top of the league but could be out of it today, so what? we lost against Basel at home and looked awful. we played bs against United and we wasnt very good yesterday too. you turst and Mou and dickride everything he does. other users dont. accept it or go to a mourinho fanboard. thats it.

It has nothing to do with a title-winning patch or whatever. we are making our best player lookling like a clown, while players like Lampard are playing nearly every game. If you are blinded by the league table, its your problem not mine.

[Jype 6,398]

Fuck my life, I rarely miss games but now that I did it just had to be the day Mikel finally scored a Premier League goal.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Oscar was good no question, but Mata was better than him the past 2 seasons, so what.

And Mata wont be a key player for us or what? why is hazard playing while he is playing shit and Mata isnt? where is the meritocracy Mou is known for?

yeah we are top of the league but could be out of it today, so what? we lost against Basel at home and looked awful. we played bs against United and we wasnt very good yesterday too. you turst and Mou and dickride everything he does. other users dont. accept it or go to a mourinho fanboard. thats it.

It has nothing to do with a title-winning patch or whatever. we are making our best player lookling like a clown, while players like Lampard are playing nearly every game. If you are blinded by the league table, its your problem not mine.

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Mata doesn't fit with what Jose wants. He's said that but he's giving him the chance to mould himself into a player who can play in Jose's team. Right now Jose thinks he can't do that, whereas Hazard is at least doing the basics of what he wants (and showed under Benitez too, with his improvement on the defensive side of the ball).

Oscar has been given a chance and taken it. He's carried this team at times this season. Has it been perfect? No. That doesn't mean I 'dickride' whatever Jose does.

What it means is that I give him the benefit of the doubt, especially when the season has barely started. Fans like you seems to find it very easy to turn on the manager at the drop of a hat and that had been a major problem at this club for a while now. Quite frankly I'd prefer that element wasn't part of this club, but luckily it only seems to exist in small corners of the internet.

So stick around, have your moan but keep it keyboard-based. :heart:

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Fuck my life, I rarely miss games but now that I did it just had to be the day Mikel finally scored a Premier League goal.

I hate games on Saturday at 5:30 pm UK time, (6:30 my time). Worst possible time to play.