Willian

[The Skipper 20,593]

41 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

But to give our 2nd best forward to benefitt one of our biggest threats for a young player WITH POTENTIAL I just cant see it as a good deal for us.

Martial is already better than Willian in my book. Just has more natural talent. Trumps Willian on almost everything as an attacker player. 

[the wes 7,212]

2 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Martial is already better than Willian in my book. Just has more natural talent. Trumps Willian on almost everything as an attacker player. 

if losing Willian helps us getting Martial I'm all in for it 

[Tomo 21,733]

17 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Get the feeling it's about 50/50 in the MHL

To put a bit of perspective on that argument.

First half of 15/16 Willian was arguably in the form of his career while Hazard was beyond any doubt in his worst, yet they still averaged the same amount of key chances created per game and Willian had set pieces to aid his cause. Also Willian found himself out of favour during the best moments of form we have had since his arrival (first half of both title winning seasons) with Schurrle/Ramires and Pedro respectively preferred to him regularly. When Hazard's our in form player, he drags us over the line single handedly, when Willian is we still struggle despite his form.

I like Willian and overall he's been good for us, but rating him higher than Hazard would be the equivalent of rating Cahill above Terry, it's an absolute no contest.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

16 minutes ago, Tomo said:

To put a bit of perspective on that argument.

First half of 15/16 Willian was arguably in the form of his career while Hazard was beyond any doubt in his worst, yet they still averaged the same amount of key chances created per game and Willian had set pieces to aid his cause. Also Willian found himself out of favour during the best moments of form we have had since his arrival (first half of both title winning seasons) with Schurrle/Ramires and Pedro respectively preferred to him regularly. When Hazard's our in form player, he drags us over the line single handedly, when Willian is we still struggle despite his form.

I like Willian and overall he's been good for us, but rating him higher than Hazard would be the equivalent of rating Cahill above Terry, it's an absolute no contest.

I haven't met anyone who says Willian is better than Hazard, maybe there are some. Such comparisons can seem churlish after leaving school.

What's the old cliché used to death ? Form is temporary, class is permanent. Both have such attributes. ''When Hazard's our in form player'' I think it's a case of when he can be arsed, and that laid backness I think in his latter years he will rue. That's what's held him back from being one of the 'greats' up until now. Willian also has games when he's lunching it and causes much frustration amongst fans, but mostly both are firm favourites.

[mccg 1,528]

Manchester United hold Willian transfer talks

According to the Manchester Evening News, Manchester United have held informal talks with Chelsea winger Willian’s representatives ahead of the summer transfer window.

Jose Mourinho is thought to be keen on a reunion with the Brazilian, who he worked with at Chelsea.

 

[the wes 7,212]

13 minutes ago, mccg said:

Manchester United hold Willian transfer talks

According to the Manchester Evening News, Manchester United have held informal talks with Chelsea winger Willian’s representatives ahead of the summer transfer window.

Jose Mourinho is thought to be keen on a reunion with the Brazilian, who he worked with at Chelsea.

 

The only way I would let Willian join utd if martial is apart Of The deal 

[The Skipper 20,593]

 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, The Skipper said:

 

We still have one more game to go - a huge cup final - but the players are already out spouting things that may damage morale ahead of that game.  

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8 minutes ago, Jason said:

We still have one more game to go - a huge cup final - but the players are already out spouting things that may damage morale ahead of that game.  

Typical players nowadays just no respect anymore...

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Mana said:

Just go in to the final expecting to lose and you'll be fine on Saturday. That's what I'm doing. I have no hope.

If we win it, then it's the surprise of the season.

That's what I always do.  

[LAM09 6,744]

We still have one more game to go - a huge cup final - but the players are already out spouting things that may damage morale ahead of that game.  

Same thing every season as of late. Something is seriously wrong with a bunch of the squad.

[mccg 1,528]

4 hours ago, the wes said:

The only way I would let Willian join utd if martial is apart Of The deal 

Its starting to smell like a matic mark 2 me thinks if Conte stays he goes ! Funk it bring mata back as bogof offer buy Martial get a mata free,shave Willian's affro and send him on his way if he wants to go

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[Unionjack 7,531]

All in all it's just another brick in Chelseas wall

 

 

[the wes 7,212]

21 hours ago, The Skipper said:

 

what is it with player power at our club?  1st it happened under AVB and the same with Mourinho 2nd spell now Conte ffs 

[The Skipper 20,593]

2 hours ago, the wes said:

what is it with player power at our club?  1st it happened under AVB and the same with Mourinho 2nd spell now Conte ffs 

It’s the culture/environment around the club. Players know that if things go sour the manager usually gets the flack. It’s poisonous. 

[mccg 1,528]

8 hours ago, Unionjack said:

All in all it's just another brick in Chelseas wall

 

 

Another spoilt prick

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Well, if this is true and Conte wants to leave on a high (I highly doubt it), then he needs to drop every player from the match-day squad, who he thinks will not be committed to the game. 

And it's not like Willian has keep his form from two months ago, so won't be that of a loss anyway.