Skau13 21 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Willian shouldbt be played on tge wing. Hes a brilliant player through the middle. As a xentral midfielder in a 4-3-3 hes great. As a winger hes useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 8, 2014 We played Liverpool off the park in the 2-1 at home win and Willian was brilliant. It's one of the hardest working performances I've ever seen from a player. Beating Arsenal 6-0 was nowhere near our best performance of the season, they gave up early.Because we absolutely destroyed them in the first twenty minutes with a combination of pressing hard and devastating counter-attacking, things Schurrle was instrumental in.I'd take Schurrle over Willian every day of the week because he has an end product.Schurrle has 8 more goals than Willian in his career, having played 123 FEWER games.At international level he not only plays for a far superior side, he has a better scoring record. TorontoChelsea, Amblève., Roquila and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Willian is just an average guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So his energetic pressing game is the only argument being used in his favor. well guess what, schurrle is just as good at pressing and despite being a LW by trade, offers far more offensively from the right wing than our "mr play it safe" romeeh, The only place to be and Vybz Kartel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I don't mind his style of play, but it's not what you want on the wings.Schurrle and Salah are direct in their own ways and will always be there to get chances, while Willian barely ever enters the opposition area kellzfresh and romeeh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 32 million right here. The only place to be, Stingray and Vybz Kartel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So his energetic pressing game is the only argument being used in his favor. well guess what, schurrle is just as good at pressing and despite being a LW by trade, offers far more offensively from the right wing than our "mr play it safe"I would say he has a couple more things going for him which are important. Like Ramires, Willian is an effective player off the ball. He doesn't take a lot of shots and creates room for other players. There are only so many shots to go around and it is important that you can have players who don't need to take them. If we are playing, say Oscar, Hazard, and Schurrle with Costa, that is a lot of guys who want to shoot and they, to some extent, cannibalize each other's shots. He also, while not being all that aware offensively, doesn't try to force that many passes which is why he keeps the highest passing rate of any of our attacking players. Certainly not close to a 32M pound player but he's useful especially given the style Chelsea play. Styles and Peace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 32 million right here.Incredible.We spent £32 million on a Brazilian whose strongest asset is his workrate and who lacks creativity.We fucking signed Ramires AGAIN.....Except (and this is true)....Ramires has a better scoring record over his career. iseah100 and Sir Mikel OBE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Question, would Willian with his so called qualities get in to any other top european team besides us?? Im talking abt Madrid, PSG, Barca, Bayern, Dortmound just to name a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 The guy has four lungs ....... But i just wish he could really pick a pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 did the 30m , not also cover eto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeeh 139 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 i think luis the defender was attacking and going forward more than willian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I agree with a lot being said, but some of the criticism I feel is exaggerated. I think his main flaw at the moment is that he's too safe in possession, whether that's manager instructions, lack of confidence..I don't know. The only time he got 1 on 1 in today's friendly he absolutely roasted the fullback and delivered a great cross. His problem is that he's not in the position to do that more often, as he's around the midfield in deeper positions drifting about - which is the complete opposite to Schurrle.Still think he had a good first season, but like the whole team faded in the closing month(s). If he carries on and adds some goals to his game he'll definitely be worth the £25m we paid IMO. The Skipper, Madmax and Barbara 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Ehmm.... it's just his first preseason game! Take it easy everyone. Rambo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Ive always liked him 100% better than Ramires Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I agree with a lot being said, but some of the criticism I feel is exaggerated. I think his main flaw at the moment is that he's too safe in possession, whether that's manager instructions, lack of confidence..I don't know. The only time he got 1 on 1 in today's friendly he absolutely roasted the fullback and delivered a great cross. His problem is that he's not in the position to do that more often, as he's around the midfield in deeper positions drifting about - which is the complete opposite to Schurrle.Still think he had a good first season, but like the whole team faded in the closing month(s). If he carries on and adds some goals to his game he'll definitely be worth the £25m we paid IMO.Would you rather have (a fit) Walcott who adds goals and assists but isn't much of a 'footballer' or Willian, who is a 'footballer' but doesn't add much when it comes to goals and assists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Cech's helmet 220 Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 8, 2014 Looks like he's the new scapegoat. zolayes, pHaRaOn, Henrique and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Would you rather have (a fit) Walcott who adds goals and assists but isn't much of a 'footballer' or Willian, who is a 'footballer' but doesn't add much when it comes to goals and assists?I'd prefer to have both depending on the situation and opposition. We've seen that they both can be very effective in different moments.. The Skipper and Barbara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Uzzi 54 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Can't believe he didn't play at the WC. Even as a striker which he is not he should have played in stead of that non-player Fred. And he is much better than Hulk of course.Player I like, should be able to do better this season. Good competition on the wings. zolayes, pHaRaOn, LAB and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 The guy has four lungs ....... But i just wish he could really pick a pass...lol, what do you mean pick a pass? He's one of the best passers we have. He fails with the end product, but he holds the ball greatly and he rarely is dispossessed, either passing or holding it.******************************************************************************************************I criticized him in the match thread, I criticized his shallow thinking earlier this week, but the amount of knee-jerk reactions, childish stuff that not even my four-year old students show on class when they're jealous of each other (and just to be clear, this comment has nothing to do with you, Tom) are laughable. All of sudden he's a terrible player - most of that over 45 minutes in his first pre-season game, after training less than a week. Instead of provocative, annoying and smart it looks just childish - really, really childish. The comparisons made here are also very much laughable. Rambo, zolayes and pHaRaOn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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