SinineUltra 1,170 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 We have Luiz, Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill - why do we need another defender? If anything we should be looking for a cover for Cole, Bertrand will not be able to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 We have Luiz, Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill - why do we need another defender? If anything we should be looking for a cover for Cole, Bertrand will not be able to replace him.because Terry and Cahill are not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 We have Luiz, Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill - why do we need another defender? If anything we should be looking for a cover for Cole, Bertrand will not be able to replace him.Terry is coming to an end. Cahill is just a squad player. So that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Porto won't drop asking price for Eliaquim Mangalahttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8792281/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 because Terry and Cahill are not good enough! are you sure about the last one??? did you watched his winning-tackle in the last second of EL Final??? don't argue with the consistency,,even Maldini has a bad-perform in period 2001 at Serie-A....i think this club didn't need World Class player in every position,,all we need is "Tactic-Defending" and "Chemistry" between our CB's pair. under Mourinho,,Cahill-Luiz has a chance to closest the best performance of Terry-Carvalho in their era... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Don't see this happening. It's being reported in Spain we're trying to sign Rami from Valencia and he'd cost peanuts in comparison to Mangala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 meh, Porto are within their right to hold out for that. I mean come on, they're a selling club. but they're good at doing it because they reinvesting and bringing new guys like Mangala that they can then once again sell for astonishing prices. it's mutually beneficial. they get their rewards, the clubs they sell to get ready-made-talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 We have Luiz, Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill - why do we need another defender? If anything we should be looking for a cover for Cole, Bertrand will not be able to replace him.Who of those is good enough to be a starter for a team that wants to challenge for the title? For me, it's only Luiz. Cahill is simply not good enough, JT's injuries are finally starting to catch up to him, and Iva had 8 bad months and one good last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Porto won't drop asking price for Eliaquim Mangalahttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8792281/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterClassic Porto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,959 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Ah, so Porto value a 22 year old defender at a higher price than Aguero went for.Good luck with that one, guys. He won't be moving anytime soon with that price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Who of those is good enough to be a starter for a team that wants to challenge for the title? For me, it's only Luiz. Cahill is simply not good enough, JT's injuries are finally starting to catch up to him, and Iva had 8 bad months and one good last season. You have a point, though if we buy a new CB we should also sell someone or player manage it until Terry leaves the club next season. I've always liked Cahill, call me novice but I think he has been alright. That off-the-lineish clearance at Europa League final after we had just scored comes to mind. Must admit the quality of defense has gone down - Terry lacking match fitness, Ivanovic was surprisingly error-prone. Next year we must get -for sure- a CB and a starter for left back unless Bertrand switches to a different gear.Come to think of it - why not? French CBs seems to be the flavour of the month it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Ah, so Porto value a 22 year old defender at a higher price than Aguero went for.Good luck with that one, guys. He won't be moving anytime soon with that price tag.And the thing is they actually meant it...like when Hulk left £60m last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You have a point, though if we buy a new CB we should also sell someone or player manage it until Terry leaves the club next season. I've always liked Cahill, call me novice but I think he has been alright. That off-the-lineish clearance at Europa League final after we had just scored comes to mind. Must admit the quality of defense has gone down - Terry lacking match fitness, Ivanovic was surprisingly error-prone. Next year we must get -for sure- a CB and a starter for left back unless Bertrand switches to a different gear.Come to think of it - why not? French CBs seems to be the flavour of the month it seems. This is exactly why I was saying I am all for selling Iva when Monaco were rumored to be interested. He is 29 now and on the decline and we need a new CB with or without him. I always say Cahill has the physical and technical ability to be one of the best CBs in the world, but he is tactically weak and his decision making is atrocious. He's an excellent squad player, but nothing more, tbh.Keep in mind that Jose is our manager next season, his CB pairing has to be the best in the league because his teams always build from a solid defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 40 odd million for Mangala? We could buy 50% of Porto for that surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,422 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 40 odd million for Mangala? We could buy 50% of Porto for that surely. Roman should do that through a shell partnership so we never have to pay huge fees for porto players in the future .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Roman should do that through a shell partnership so we never have to pay huge fees for porto players in the future ..Or have that bastarding Porto president executed, what a cunt he is with all his massive release clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Or have that bastarding Porto president executed, what a cunt he is with all his massive release clauses. It is just good business, he knows what he is doing. It is not a coincidence that Porto is the team that made the most profit selling players since the beginning of 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Don't see this happening. It's being reported in Spain we're trying to sign Rami from Valencia and he'd cost peanuts in comparison to Mangala.really? I mean, rami is a decent defender. Tall, strong, great header and tackling, does anything he is asked to do as a CB...but nothing else. Opposite to Cahill he lacks every kind of pace whatsoever, can forget about a highline with Rami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Cahill-Luiz has a chance to closest the best performance of Terry-Carvalho in their era...No defensive partnership will come close to Terry-Carvalho for a long time especially not one of our worst ever defensive pairings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remains of the day 564 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 This is exactly why I was saying I am all for selling Iva when Monaco were rumored to be interested. He is 29 now and on the decline and we need a new CB with or without him. I always say Cahill has the physical and technical ability to be one of the best CBs in the world, but he is tactically weak and his decision making is atrocious. He's an excellent squad player, but nothing more, tbh.Agree completely, Choulo. He's normally dependable but for the past two seasons he's been on a gradual downward slope (still shaking my head at that 93rd min blunder he made in the Europe league final). Perhaps he's found it difficult to adjust to the new formation, who knows. But I can't imagine that at 29, he'll improve much next season. I love brana and he's been among my favourite players but I think that if we don't replace him now, then we run the risk of falling back into old habits of failing to clear out "deadwood". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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