Ilkay Gundogan

[Pacquiao 1,834]

was that picture of him looking so fat when he was injured actually real?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

From what I've heard from BVB fans they are sick of his fat ass. The only reason he resigned is because no clubs wanted him.

He wanted huge wages and normaly no club wanted him because he was completely out of shape.

Some say united made deal with him but he wanted bigger wages and deal fell off, eventualy Gundogan signed extension.

[illmatic 901]

was that picture of him looking so fat when he was injured actually real?

Yes

[Unionjack 7,531]

The lads got great taste in turning manure down. I thought he had a great game against Poland and would love him here.

Does look like he likes a pie or 3 eh. Looks ok now tho.

[Oscar 441]

Gundogan in 2012 was better than anything I've seen pogba do or KDB.

However, gundogan is a bet for Munich next summer

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Would Dortmund willingly sell to Bayern ? I think only under some sort of Gotze swap (which reportedly was on the card but not sure what happened).

Let's see how Gundogan fares this season. Signs are encouraging to say the least. Yesterday he was ok, looked very fresh and was willing to run at the defenders.

If I had a choice between Pogba and old Gundogan I'd choose Gundogan. If Barca take Pogba then we have a great option still.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Buy him in January!! We can afford to offer him bigger wages than Bayern because of how strong the pound is right now.

200k euros per week is only 145k pounds at the moment. And for example Fabregas is making around 200k pounds at the moment in here.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Wonderful wonderful player. Mundo Deportivo claims Barca is interested, fee 38m...not sure how reliable tho.

If there is any player that at least looks available and is worth the price, then Gundogan would be my choice to break the bank. If we offered 30m for Stones, we should offer that or more for Gundogan. You dont see players like him available every season. We already missed on Modric, Verratti, Vidal and bunch of others.

His age, his price, his workrate, his creativity and dribbling abilities, would be amazing fit into our midfield. He is a joy to watch.

The lad would probably improve Barca, he is that good.

[Henrique 9,133]

Im the only one who thinks this guy with his name and appearence looks like a character coming from Dragon Blall Z?

[Spike 12,049]

Im the only one who thinks this guy with his name and appearence looks like a character coming from Dragon Blall Z?

Not really. Most DBZ character names are silly puns.

[stroey 2,525]

Im the only one who thinks this guy with his name and appearence looks like a character coming from Dragon Blall Z?

The name sounds more like a Pokemon character.

" I choose you, Gundogan!"

Appearance yes, looks a bit like vegeta.

[El P. 1,354]

Would be ideal for partnership with Matić. Only 25. Would give 40 millions for him.

Let's compare him with Fabregas:

Passing Cesc > Gundo

Speed Cesc << Gundo

Body strength Cesc << Gundo

Tech/Skill on the ball Cesc ~ Gundo

Stamina Cesc < Gundo

Shot Cesc < Gundo

Overall defense ability Cesc << Gundo

Age Cesc << Gundo

Corners Cesc > Gundo

From what I saw. Agree?

[the wes 7,212]

good player i rather have koke instead

[DYC. 7,542]

Would be ideal for partnership with Matić. Only 25. Would give 40 millions for him.

Let's compare him with Fabregas:

Passing Cesc > Gundo

Speed Cesc << Gundo

Body strength Cesc << Gundo

Tech/Skill on the ball Cesc ~ Gundo

Stamina Cesc < Gundo

Shot Cesc < Gundo

Overall defense ability Cesc << Gundo

Age Cesc << Gundo

Corners Cesc > Gundo

From what I saw. Agree?

Gundogan's the better passer imo. Cesc's the superior long passer but when it comes to short passing and one-touch passing, I think Ilkay has him beat. And he's much better than Cesc when it comes to passing under pressure and disguising his passes. Gundogan is easily more skillful as well.

Never happening though if you ask me. I wouldn't be surprised to see him holding up a Barca shirt in the summer.

[El P. 1,354]

Gundogan's the better passer imo. He's the superior long passer but when it comes to short passing and one-touch passing, I think Ilkay has him beat. And he's much better than Cesc when it comes to passing under pressure and disguising his passes. Gundogan is easily more skillful as well.

Never happening though if you ask me. I wouldn't be surprised to see him holding up a Barca shirt in the summer.

I judged by last Fabregas season, when he had those crazy assists. I think Fabregas has more key passes (as WhoScored status shows), that's why I gave him advantage.

With more skillful I can agree. So I guess Gundo is even more better.