Fernando Torres

[DJames 729]

We should probably only play Torres in big matches....

He got us the final

He kept us in the FA Cup

He kept us third in PL

*and whatever else I've forgotten*

Can't deny he comes through for us in the end.after much heartache of course

[yuvala 2,167]

For me, there's no place for Torres Ba Lukaku + a worldclass striker in our team.

[ja1 1,166]

Haha, fair point.

But I don't personally think Torres has had a terrible season. To the contrary, I think he's had a good season. We have to realise he is not the 40 goals a season man we thought we'd signed, but a half-decent second option. He's scored 23 goals this season, which is actually the second-best tally of his career - and you don't score goals by playing badly.

He has had an average season. I hope people do not mistake what has been (and probably will be IMO) the best season of Torres' Chelsea career for a 'good' season compared to the other players, or other strikers. A strike rate of 1 in 3 does not define a good season for me. For me going half a season without scoring a PL goal also does not define a good season for me as well. He has just about been passable. What has been successful for Torres in comparison to his time at Chelsea shouldn't be held in the same light as a successful season for a striker. Out of 10 I'd give him 6 for this season. Then I'd sell him, and bring in Cavani/Falcao!

[couris 232]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILfNTpn3e_Y&feature=player_embedded

[Rmpr 8,977]

Time to go Fernando, sorry!

You were our best player (along with Hazard) in our Europa League campaign, you showed you still have pace, cold blood and you are demosntrating a level of focus and determination never seen while you were at Chelsea. You also scored 23 goals this season, which is not terrible as most people make. So, thanks for that, honestly...

However, this does not take away the fact you rarely help the team in build-up plays, you often lose possession due to your horrible decision making and you lost that striker instinct to know when and where to shoot. Countless the times you have frustrated us and it is not 23 goals against half decent teams that will erase your first 2 shameful years as a Chelsea player. You gain 175k/week (making you one of the 10 highest payed professionals) and you only have 1 EPL goal (that came in the very last game) this entire year?? 1 lucky UCL goal (because I ain't counting the two against Nordsjaelland)??

We payed 50mi for a piece of shit that has shown very few glimpses of brilliance (Ghent, Manure, Barcelona and UEL). Added to one of the worst first 1.5 season I have ever seen a top (ex-top) player display in my entire short life. If this had been your first season, I would be full of hope that you would prevail next year, but this is an old excuse now, it has happened twice already. Sorry, but this is way far from being good enough. It doesn't even justify you being a backup striker (if you gained 50-60k, maybe), let alone keeping you for this atrocious amount of money!

GO LEAVE YOUR LIFE ELSEWHERE!!!! :blue scalf:

[Badboy 1,526]

We should keep him just because he's Mata's best friend and Mata will be sad if he goes lol. Seriously though, there's a lot of Spanish comradery in the camp, dunno if anyone saw the Juan Mata special report so it's probably best he just stays for the sake of the harmony in the squad. Also i hope he stays because it would be so interesting to see Jose as his boss. That will be interesting.

That is a really expensive friend to keep at the club..... Would he be willing to take a dramatic pay cut ? One equating to a salary from McDonald's as that is all he's worth these days....

[Badboy 1,526]

We can't keep a striker who goes half a season without scoring a Premier League goal it's just not something we can do as a club. He's had an awful season and that is the honest truth Mata and Hazard are number 1 and 2 in the top assists ranking in the league this season and Torres despite having 2 of the most creative players in the league has gone half a season without scoring in the league. How we have managed to get into the top 4 with this guy is beyond me and I shudder to even contemplate what we could of done with a on form Crespo or Drogba !

[Ollie 4,400]

That is a really expensive friend to keep at the club..... Would he be willing to take a dramatic pay cut ? One equating to a salary from McDonald's as that is all he's worth these days....

I'm sure he can afford to. But also we can afford to pay people to do fuck all, even when we were skint we payed a certain fat dutch guy to never play. Even this season we've had Malouda and Ferreira. That's how we roll.

[Badboy 1,526]

I'm sure he can afford to. But also we can afford to pay people to do fuck all, even when we were skint we payed a certain fat dutch guy to never play. Even this season we've had Malouda and Ferreira. That's how we roll.

If he seriously wants to go to the world cup in Brazil and next season is a world cup year then he must without any doubt leave this club because I don't think he'll be number one choice for our new manager. The new manager will almost certainly have the option to by a new forward so he needs to leave for his own good !

[blu35_army 550]

Why Fernando Torres is worth more than £50m

Wednesday, May 15th 2013, Amsterdam. Another final, another goal and another trophy for Fernando Torres. There aren’t many finals that Torres has been involved in and lost. There are even fewer he hasn’t scored in.

Torres has had his best campaign in three seasons this term and if you include the Golden Boot trophy in the FIFA European Championship for Spain, being named in the team of the competition for the Europa League and take into account the fact he’s scored 21 goals this season, you cant help but ask: Is Fernando Torres getting back to being El Nino?

Yet despite scoring 21 goals in club competitions and three in internationals he is still largely regarded as a bit-part player, as a player past his prime. In addition to scoring 21 goals this season he has assisted 11.

"Yeah, but he only scored seven Premier League goals this season", I hear you say. True, but if you look at when his league goals began to dry up it falls right around the time of the January transfer window. Before the rumours of Demba Ba, and Ba’s subsequent arrival, Torres had been playing relatively pressure free; his job was guaranteed.

Look at his record in the Europa League - nine games, six goals. With Ba cup-tied for the Europa League, Torres knew that he would play in every Europa League match. With Rafa Benitez juggling two strikers from January onwards, how could Torres know when he would start and when he would not?

For Chelsea this season, Torres has played a key part in 32 goals. For comparisons sake, Wayne Rooney has played a key role in 31 goals this season for Manchester United. I don’t remember hearing many people branding Wayne Rooney a flop this season, do you?

We all know why people are so hard on Torres - that transfer fee. The astronomical £50 million (which was only £15m more than Andy Carroll and down from the £70 million Liverpool asked in the summer prior to Torres' move) that gave the media the power to crush his confidence and focus the spotlight directly on El Nino.

The problem is though is that transfer fees are measured in terms of performance on the pitch. Is he worth £X million? and has he paid back his transfer fee? How can three goals in his first 15 games be worth £35 million?

We’ve all asked those questions, even I. Except while the fans and media will continue to compare performance to the fee paid for a certain player, I have news for you. You’re wrong.

You see, a player’s value is much greater than that of performance on the pitch, it helps, I grant you, but it is not the sole factor on which any given team considers when spending £50 million on a sole player. There’s a much bigger thing going on here - money, and how much of it can we make?

Clubs make money in a number of ways but the ones that I am going to specifically focus on are prize money, gate receipts and shirt sales. Chelsea rake in a lot of money from just these three things. And if you take into account Torres’ contribution to Chelsea this season, the amount of money he has helped them amass is actually rather astonishing.

First of all a little background knowledge. Chelsea sell around one million shirts per year worldwide, 18.7% of their total shirt sales are 'Torres 9' shirts. Torres’ Chelsea number nine shirt is the third most popular shirt in North America behind only Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney. Globally? Torres is third again.

If Torres sells 18.7% of one million, that equals 187,000 shirts. The average price for a new Chelsea shirt with Torres on the back of it is £53.50. That means we can assume an amount of £10,004,500 for shirt sales just attributed to Torres. He was also the face of Chelsea’s tour to Asia.

Struggles or not, Torres is a marketing machine and with his performances in this year’s Europa League, coupled with the prior success of Chelsea in the Champions League last season, Chelsea project to sell around a quarter of a million Torres shirts in the next 12 months. That number would be £13,375,000. In case you were wondering.

Right here we have £23,379,500 in revenue (albeit next year's projected figures) produced by a man who cost Chelsea a fee of £50,000,000. What’s more interesting is what happens if you take away Torres’ goals and assists for this season.

Chelsea finished third in the Premier League, won the Europa League and got to the semi-final of the FA Cup. Torres’ goals have come in important games for the Blues this season and they have even more important ramifications in terms of prize money and future prize money.

Without Torres’ goals, Chelsea would be fifth in the Premier League with 68 points, at the mercy of Arsenal’s last game of the season. Chelsea would have been eliminated in the fourth round of the FA Cup by Brentford and would’ve been out in the third round of the Europa League by Steaua Bucharesti.

Here’s the breakdown of the revenue Chelsea amassed by having runs in the Europa League and FA Cup, as well as their third place finish in the Premier League versus where they would’ve ended without Torres’ goals.

With Torres' goals:

Premier League | 3rd: £13,600,000
FA Cup | Semi-finalists: £1,147,500
FA Cup gate receipts: £4,676,441
Europa League | Winners: £5,750,000
Europa League gate receipts: £4,938,030
Shirt sales: £10,004,500

Total: £40,116,471

Without Torres' goals:

Premier League | 5th: £12,000,000
FA Cup | 4th round: £67,500
FA Cup gate receipts: £622,464
Europa League | 3rd round: £168,655
Europa League gate receipts: £1,159,260
Shirt sales: £10,004,500

Total: £24,022,379

That’s a difference of £16,094,092 in estimated revenue for the year. Even though Torres has struggled since his move from Anfield, he has been paying back his transfer fee since day one – initially outselling Carroll of Liverpool by 250 shirts to 1. Now El Nino has his eye for goal back, it seems like he may pay off the rest of the fee very soon, if not already.

If you take into account that Chelsea’s losses for this year are going to be around £4 million after taxes, then the extra £16 million that Torres’ goals have brought in this season is the difference between £4 million in losses and £20 million in losses, and with Financial Fair Play looming, that's a big, big help for Chelsea.

Torres has stated his desire to stay at Chelsea past the end of the season. If I were Chelsea I would welcome him back with open arms both from a marketing standpoint and a performance one.

The value of a player is much, much more complicated than just performances on the pitch. His performances have been stale until this past season, but his ability looks like it is waiting to burst back through at any moment.

If you asked me if Fernando Torres is worth £50 million given the data I would have to say yes. And I would follow by saying he’s probably worth even more than that

http://www.givemefootball.com/346521-why-fernando-torres-is-worth-more-than-50m

[didierforever 7,349]

Why Fernando Torres is worth more than £50m

Wednesday, May 15th 2013, Amsterdam. Another final, another goal and another trophy for Fernando Torres. There aren’t many finals that Torres has been involved in and lost. There are even fewer he hasn’t scored in.

Torres has had his best campaign in three seasons this term and if you include the Golden Boot trophy in the FIFA European Championship for Spain, being named in the team of the competition for the Europa League and take into account the fact he’s scored 21 goals this season, you cant help but ask: Is Fernando Torres getting back to being El Nino?

Yet despite scoring 21 goals in club competitions and three in internationals he is still largely regarded as a bit-part player, as a player past his prime. In addition to scoring 21 goals this season he has assisted 11.

"Yeah, but he only scored seven Premier League goals this season", I hear you say. True, but if you look at when his league goals began to dry up it falls right around the time of the January transfer window. Before the rumours of Demba Ba, and Ba’s subsequent arrival, Torres had been playing relatively pressure free; his job was guaranteed.

Look at his record in the Europa League - nine games, six goals. With Ba cup-tied for the Europa League, Torres knew that he would play in every Europa League match. With Rafa Benitez juggling two strikers from January onwards, how could Torres know when he would start and when he would not?

For Chelsea this season, Torres has played a key part in 32 goals. For comparisons sake, Wayne Rooney has played a key role in 31 goals this season for Manchester United. I don’t remember hearing many people branding Wayne Rooney a flop this season, do you?

We all know why people are so hard on Torres - that transfer fee. The astronomical £50 million (which was only £15m more than Andy Carroll and down from the £70 million Liverpool asked in the summer prior to Torres' move) that gave the media the power to crush his confidence and focus the spotlight directly on El Nino.

The problem is though is that transfer fees are measured in terms of performance on the pitch. Is he worth £X million? and has he paid back his transfer fee? How can three goals in his first 15 games be worth £35 million?

We’ve all asked those questions, even I. Except while the fans and media will continue to compare performance to the fee paid for a certain player, I have news for you. You’re wrong.

You see, a player’s value is much greater than that of performance on the pitch, it helps, I grant you, but it is not the sole factor on which any given team considers when spending £50 million on a sole player. There’s a much bigger thing going on here - money, and how much of it can we make?

Clubs make money in a number of ways but the ones that I am going to specifically focus on are prize money, gate receipts and shirt sales. Chelsea rake in a lot of money from just these three things. And if you take into account Torres’ contribution to Chelsea this season, the amount of money he has helped them amass is actually rather astonishing.

First of all a little background knowledge. Chelsea sell around one million shirts per year worldwide, 18.7% of their total shirt sales are 'Torres 9' shirts. Torres’ Chelsea number nine shirt is the third most popular shirt in North America behind only Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney. Globally? Torres is third again.

If Torres sells 18.7% of one million, that equals 187,000 shirts. The average price for a new Chelsea shirt with Torres on the back of it is £53.50. That means we can assume an amount of £10,004,500 for shirt sales just attributed to Torres. He was also the face of Chelsea’s tour to Asia.

Struggles or not, Torres is a marketing machine and with his performances in this year’s Europa League, coupled with the prior success of Chelsea in the Champions League last season, Chelsea project to sell around a quarter of a million Torres shirts in the next 12 months. That number would be £13,375,000. In case you were wondering.

Right here we have £23,379,500 in revenue (albeit next year's projected figures) produced by a man who cost Chelsea a fee of £50,000,000. What’s more interesting is what happens if you take away Torres’ goals and assists for this season.

Chelsea finished third in the Premier League, won the Europa League and got to the semi-final of the FA Cup. Torres’ goals have come in important games for the Blues this season and they have even more important ramifications in terms of prize money and future prize money.

Without Torres’ goals, Chelsea would be fifth in the Premier League with 68 points, at the mercy of Arsenal’s last game of the season. Chelsea would have been eliminated in the fourth round of the FA Cup by Brentford and would’ve been out in the third round of the Europa League by Steaua Bucharesti.

Here’s the breakdown of the revenue Chelsea amassed by having runs in the Europa League and FA Cup, as well as their third place finish in the Premier League versus where they would’ve ended without Torres’ goals.

With Torres' goals:

Premier League | 3rd: £13,600,000

FA Cup | Semi-finalists: £1,147,500

FA Cup gate receipts: £4,676,441

Europa League | Winners: £5,750,000

Europa League gate receipts: £4,938,030

Shirt sales: £10,004,500

Total: £40,116,471

Without Torres' goals:

Premier League | 5th: £12,000,000

FA Cup | 4th round: £67,500

FA Cup gate receipts: £622,464

Europa League | 3rd round: £168,655

Europa League gate receipts: £1,159,260

Shirt sales: £10,004,500

Total: £24,022,379

That’s a difference of £16,094,092 in estimated revenue for the year. Even though Torres has struggled since his move from Anfield, he has been paying back his transfer fee since day one – initially outselling Carroll of Liverpool by 250 shirts to 1. Now El Nino has his eye for goal back, it seems like he may pay off the rest of the fee very soon, if not already.

If you take into account that Chelsea’s losses for this year are going to be around £4 million after taxes, then the extra £16 million that Torres’ goals have brought in this season is the difference between £4 million in losses and £20 million in losses, and with Financial Fair Play looming, that's a big, big help for Chelsea.

Torres has stated his desire to stay at Chelsea past the end of the season. If I were Chelsea I would welcome him back with open arms both from a marketing standpoint and a performance one.

The value of a player is much, much more complicated than just performances on the pitch. His performances have been stale until this past season, but his ability looks like it is waiting to burst back through at any moment.

If you asked me if Fernando Torres is worth £50 million given the data I would have to say yes. And I would follow by saying he’s probably worth even more than that

http://www.givemefootball.com/346521-why-fernando-torres-is-worth-more-than-50m

seriously??? without torres and just add any bloody striker in this world we would still have won the europa league, scratch that we would not have even been in the europa league in the first place. and secondly 5th in PL. seriously? the way city played this season we could easily have been 2nd, we would have won the club world cup and the only reason we dint win or atleast take the game to extra-time was torres missing a sitter, there is another couple of million. these stats are total bullshit because if we dint have torres, we would have had lukaku/sturridge/DD/falcao and dont prove a single thing. otherwise u wanna know mata's worth for chelsea. take out all his assists and goals and lets see where we stand then.

[Madmax 9,219]

Err transfer fee is just one part of the financial side of things. What about wages? 175-180k a week for a 5 and a half year contract = another £50m. That's a 100m investment.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Why Fernando Torres is worth more than £50m

Wednesday, May 15th 2013, Amsterdam. Another final, another goal and another trophy for Fernando Torres. There aren’t many finals that Torres has been involved in and lost. There are even fewer he hasn’t scored in.

Torres has had his best campaign in three seasons this term and if you include the Golden Boot trophy in the FIFA European Championship for Spain, being named in the team of the competition for the Europa League and take into account the fact he’s scored 21 goals this season, you cant help but ask: Is Fernando Torres getting back to being El Nino?

Yet despite scoring 21 goals in club competitions and three in internationals he is still largely regarded as a bit-part player, as a player past his prime. In addition to scoring 21 goals this season he has assisted 11.

"Yeah, but he only scored seven Premier League goals this season", I hear you say. True, but if you look at when his league goals began to dry up it falls right around the time of the January transfer window. Before the rumours of Demba Ba, and Ba’s subsequent arrival, Torres had been playing relatively pressure free; his job was guaranteed.

Look at his record in the Europa League - nine games, six goals. With Ba cup-tied for the Europa League, Torres knew that he would play in every Europa League match. With Rafa Benitez juggling two strikers from January onwards, how could Torres know when he would start and when he would not?

For Chelsea this season, Torres has played a key part in 32 goals. For comparisons sake, Wayne Rooney has played a key role in 31 goals this season for Manchester United. I don’t remember hearing many people branding Wayne Rooney a flop this season, do you?

We all know why people are so hard on Torres - that transfer fee. The astronomical £50 million (which was only £15m more than Andy Carroll and down from the £70 million Liverpool asked in the summer prior to Torres' move) that gave the media the power to crush his confidence and focus the spotlight directly on El Nino.

The problem is though is that transfer fees are measured in terms of performance on the pitch. Is he worth £X million? and has he paid back his transfer fee? How can three goals in his first 15 games be worth £35 million?

We’ve all asked those questions, even I. Except while the fans and media will continue to compare performance to the fee paid for a certain player, I have news for you. You’re wrong.

You see, a player’s value is much greater than that of performance on the pitch, it helps, I grant you, but it is not the sole factor on which any given team considers when spending £50 million on a sole player. There’s a much bigger thing going on here - money, and how much of it can we make?

Clubs make money in a number of ways but the ones that I am going to specifically focus on are prize money, gate receipts and shirt sales. Chelsea rake in a lot of money from just these three things. And if you take into account Torres’ contribution to Chelsea this season, the amount of money he has helped them amass is actually rather astonishing.

First of all a little background knowledge. Chelsea sell around one million shirts per year worldwide, 18.7% of their total shirt sales are 'Torres 9' shirts. Torres’ Chelsea number nine shirt is the third most popular shirt in North America behind only Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney. Globally? Torres is third again.

If Torres sells 18.7% of one million, that equals 187,000 shirts. The average price for a new Chelsea shirt with Torres on the back of it is £53.50. That means we can assume an amount of £10,004,500 for shirt sales just attributed to Torres. He was also the face of Chelsea’s tour to Asia.

Struggles or not, Torres is a marketing machine and with his performances in this year’s Europa League, coupled with the prior success of Chelsea in the Champions League last season, Chelsea project to sell around a quarter of a million Torres shirts in the next 12 months. That number would be £13,375,000. In case you were wondering.

Right here we have £23,379,500 in revenue (albeit next year's projected figures) produced by a man who cost Chelsea a fee of £50,000,000. What’s more interesting is what happens if you take away Torres’ goals and assists for this season.

Chelsea finished third in the Premier League, won the Europa League and got to the semi-final of the FA Cup. Torres’ goals have come in important games for the Blues this season and they have even more important ramifications in terms of prize money and future prize money.

Without Torres’ goals, Chelsea would be fifth in the Premier League with 68 points, at the mercy of Arsenal’s last game of the season. Chelsea would have been eliminated in the fourth round of the FA Cup by Brentford and would’ve been out in the third round of the Europa League by Steaua Bucharesti.

Here’s the breakdown of the revenue Chelsea amassed by having runs in the Europa League and FA Cup, as well as their third place finish in the Premier League versus where they would’ve ended without Torres’ goals.

With Torres' goals:

Premier League | 3rd: £13,600,000

FA Cup | Semi-finalists: £1,147,500

FA Cup gate receipts: £4,676,441

Europa League | Winners: £5,750,000

Europa League gate receipts: £4,938,030

Shirt sales: £10,004,500

Total: £40,116,471

Without Torres' goals:

Premier League | 5th: £12,000,000

FA Cup | 4th round: £67,500

FA Cup gate receipts: £622,464

Europa League | 3rd round: £168,655

Europa League gate receipts: £1,159,260

Shirt sales: £10,004,500

Total: £24,022,379

That’s a difference of £16,094,092 in estimated revenue for the year. Even though Torres has struggled since his move from Anfield, he has been paying back his transfer fee since day one – initially outselling Carroll of Liverpool by 250 shirts to 1. Now El Nino has his eye for goal back, it seems like he may pay off the rest of the fee very soon, if not already.

If you take into account that Chelsea’s losses for this year are going to be around £4 million after taxes, then the extra £16 million that Torres’ goals have brought in this season is the difference between £4 million in losses and £20 million in losses, and with Financial Fair Play looming, that's a big, big help for Chelsea.

Torres has stated his desire to stay at Chelsea past the end of the season. If I were Chelsea I would welcome him back with open arms both from a marketing standpoint and a performance one.

The value of a player is much, much more complicated than just performances on the pitch. His performances have been stale until this past season, but his ability looks like it is waiting to burst back through at any moment.

If you asked me if Fernando Torres is worth £50 million given the data I would have to say yes. And I would follow by saying he’s probably worth even more than that

http://www.givemefootball.com/346521-why-fernando-torres-is-worth-more-than-50m

There aren't enough facepalm gifs in the world to do justice to this piece of crap article.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Torres Jr vs Cech Jr

[Madmax 9,219]

Cuteness overload.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Obviously little Cech's gonna make the save

[DONI. 1,291]

[Las7 951]

The whole flawed logic behind somehow justifying his wage and transfer fee due to selling shirts and merchandise is a load of crap. Real signed Beckham for marketability instead of Ronaldinho - look how that turned out for them.

Any club that wants to be taken seriously doesn't sign and make players automatic first choice due to the amount of shirts they sell. Fact is that for 2 and a half seasons Floppes has done very little to justify his selection. If we were to sign the most well known Chinese or Korean player just to sell a lot of shirts I very much doubt anyone apart from Chinese or Korean posters will be calling for him to start every match.

That is the footballing reality the moment we start considering who sales a lot of shirt when contemplating who should have a starting position at the club or justify a person astronomical wages due to the fact we make some money back is just silly. We make around 8 pounds per Floppes shirt sold - that would mean we would need to sell 21000 shirts per week or 1 million Offical Floppes shirts per year, just to cover his wages.

That whole myth has been debunked

http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/7/30/3201349/how-much-are-shirt-sales-really-worth