KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Without Suarez Liverpool would be 16th, not 8th. Without RvP Man Utd would be 11th, not 1st. Without Torres Chelsea would still be 4th.Indeed. ManUre are nothing special. They are so reliant on Van Persie its laughable. If we had Ba from the start of the season we'd be at least 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Without Suarez Liverpool would be 16th, not 8th. Without RvP Man Utd would be 11th, not 1st. Without Torres Chelsea would still be 4th.I made a statement similar to this, once. A couple of members attacked me for it... Funkyflashman, The Mak and ChelseaChelsea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Torres after Ba scored: Sir Mikel OBE, The Mak, ChelseaChelsea and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Fully expect blondie to start on Wednseday. If he is benched 2 games in a row, half the staff would be sacked nachikethas, The Mak, ChelseaChelsea and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Seriously it makes sense considering we play Stoke away the 12th, Ba has a bit of history with Stoke and is more suited to their game.Considering we can now pick the striker depending od the opposition that's rather a good thing to rotate. Not sure who'll start on Wednesday but Ba has every chances to start at StokeAgree that Ba should start against Stoke, but I honestly that he would. Frenando is still seen by the management as our number 1 striker, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pray for an injury. It's cruel, but its the only way we can rescue our season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The hierarchy stuff is really overrated. It may have played a part in the fact no big name arrived last summer... But if Sturridge left that's because of Di Matteo's awful management, not because of Roman or whoever.At the end of the day Torres playing so much was rather a consequence of Di Matteo having fucked up the only other option left. Daily Fail pretended it was Roman's instruction. They also almost pretended Torres punched Holland, why nobody is trusting that? Yes, the way the board fielded the team was wrong for a full season but in most clubs especially in England, managers are supposed to train what they are put at their disposal, not pick their players.Di Matteo was sacked because of the way he handled the small squad he had at his disposal, he wasn't blamed for the squad being small.Still I agree that Roman's alleged view to expect things from managers with a limited squad before giving them full confidence is a bit weird.Hang on just a sec, how the fuck do you know if any of that is true?, you're going mad at Abramovich and such and saying people are stupid, yet you don't know yourself.It's really a stupid thing to comment on because we simply do not know what happens. Maybe the board wanted Di Matteo to play Torres over Sturridge to show Sturridge who is boss, though it could be unlogical as it was his last year on his contract, but lets face it you can't put it past our board.No one knows what goes on in the background. ChelseaChelsea and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Fact is that our Board was in charge of transfers - not RDM. They loaned Lukaku, they didn't do enough to keep Drogba, they released Kalou and sold off Anelka. Right now we should have had Lukaku; Sturridge and Ba getting regular playing - who combined would have similar wages to Fernando Torres. Fact is that Lukaku pushed on for his loan move due to obviously being told he would not be getting enough playing time to develop. It's also a fact that Sturridge was fit for 14 matches this season for CFC and started TWO - the only match he started up top instead of Torres, Torres was banned for. Reading between the lines it's obvious that no manager would be happy to start of the season with two strikers, one of which went 24 hours without the goal just 6 months prior to this season and the other untested up top for CFC. The board didn't do enough to sign another striker in the summer and trusted Torres, here is what our Board said after our CL triumph:"We've got Fernando Torres," Gourlay told reporters on Wednesday. "And Fernando Torres is the man that we will go forward with and Fernando Torres will score us the goals. "We have no doubt that Fernando Torres is a world-class centre-forward and Fernando Torres will score goals for Chelsea."I'm not worried about Fernando at all. We've just won the Champions League and Fernando Torres played his part in that."It's not all about goals. It's not just about the individual scoring goals but also his teamwork. He is a very, very important player. And I think you will see Fernando Torres score many goals for Chelsea." SeB and ChelseaChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Fact is that our Board was in charge of transfers - not RDM. They loaned Lukaku, they didn't do enough to keep Drogba, they released Kalou and sold off Anelka. Right now we should have had Lukaku; Sturridge and Ba getting regular playing - who combined would have similar wages to Fernando Torres. Fact is that Lukaku pushed on for his loan move due to obviously being told he would not be getting enough playing time to develop. It's also a fact that Sturridge was fit for 14 matches this season for CFC and started TWO - the only match he started up top instead of Torres, Torres was banned for. Reading between the lines it's obvious that no manager would be happy to start of the season with two strikers, one of which went 24 hours without the goal just 6 months prior to this season and the other untested up top for CFC. The board didn't do enough to sign another striker in the summer and trusted Torres, here is what our Board said after our CL triumph:Well the board went full retard and you never go full retard. Las7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Torres after Ba scored:That's a ridiculously small clip it isn't even a second. He could just about to be smiling or something. bloody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 That's a ridiculously small clip it isn't even a second. He could just about to be smiling or something.Yeah. Im not even sure if its after the goal, i mean Eva isnt even smiling and she is always celebrating after a goal bloody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think Eva is watching a game of tennis bababoom, bloody, Dion and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Alright, Nando, so now you've got some serious competition and you won't be an automatic starter anymore, so one last chance to get in a good goalscoring form and manage to keep it through the season or get used to life on the bench.as far as I am concerned Torres entered the Last Chance Saloon in August and fucking CHOKED ,,,,TORRES OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The hierarchy stuff is really overrated. It may have played a part in the fact no big name arrived last summer... But if Sturridge left that's because of Di Matteo's awful management, not because of Roman or whoever.At the end of the day Torres playing so much was rather a consequence of Di Matteo having fucked up the only other option left. Daily Fail pretended it was Roman's instruction. They also almost pretended Torres punched Holland, why nobody is trusting that? Yes, the way the board fielded the team was wrong for a full season but in most clubs especially in England, managers are supposed to train what they are put at their disposal, not pick their players.Di Matteo was sacked because of the way he handled the small squad he had at his disposal, he wasn't blamed for the squad being small.Still I agree that Roman's alleged view to expect things from managers with a limited squad before giving them full confidence is a bit weird.Although I somewhat agree with this, I don't think anything justifies him still being here after 2 years of utter shit except the owner having a man-crush on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing, not one microscopic molecule of Fernando Torres existance justifies the fact she still wears a Chelsea shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Although I somewhat agree with this, I don't think anything justifies him still being here after 2 years of utter shit except the owner having a man-crush on him. I think it is more because it is not easy to movr pkayer like torres heck even kaka is still with rm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hang on just a sec, how the fuck do you know if any of that is true?, you're going mad at Abramovich and such and saying people are stupid, yet you don't know yourself.It's really a stupid thing to comment on because we simply do not know what happens. Maybe the board wanted Di Matteo to play Torres over Sturridge to show Sturridge who is boss, though it could be unlogical as it was his last year on his contract, but lets face it you can't put it past our board.No one knows what goes on in the background.Agreed.Torres publicly admitted just moments after the greatest night in Chelsea's history that he was promised a starting spot for next season by Abramovich himself. At the time, Robbie wasn't even our manager.This proves the way he runs a football club. I've said it before: Roman Abramovich should give that managerial job to Roman Abramovich. didierforever and ChelseaChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I think it is more because it is not easy to movr pkayer like torres heck even kaka is still with rmWe could've loaned him out like we did with Sheva with an option to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted January 8, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted January 8, 2013 The most scary thing about him is he genuinely believes and acts like he deserves to play. Heisenberg, xPetrCechx, ChelseaChelsea and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The most scary thing about him is he genuinely believes and acts like he deserves to play. To be honest i don't believe that at all, i bet he thinks he's not good enough. He probably has to lie to the media and himself to look like he's confident so he gets to play, but i bet deep down he knows the truth.It's a shame really, but this transfer was a disaster from day one, since he has came there are only two goals i can thank him for, the goal against Arsenal because had he not of scored it we wouldn't of won, and the goal against Barca, which relieved so much pressure off us. But for 50 million that's all we get? and this has been like what almost two seasons exact he's been here now?. Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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