Tortilla9 390 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I am not disputing AVB gave Torres chances. All I'm saying is since the departure of AVB Torres seems to be revived. And it's not just Torres. I look back to when I was a brand new manager managing a group of 10. Some my age, some older. I tried to put my stamp on things, set the tone. Some things I did great and some things I went overboard. Somethings I did as a new manager I would never do now and looking back on I cringe. I think AVB would look back on his CFC experience and like a re-do on some things. Not to say that some players needed a swift kick in the a$$ then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Mikel has been better since AVB left too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I think what RDM has done is use the 'hands around the shoulder' approach on Torres. All I think Torres needed was the manager to give him confidence, motivate and praise him for what he has done during a game. Don't think AVB did that or even communicate much with the players generally anyway. Bosnian Blue and Sheva. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I think what RDM has done is use the 'hands around the shoulder' approach on Torres. All I think Torres needed was the manager to give him confidence, motivate and praise him for what he has done during a game. Don't think AVB did that or even communicate much with the players generally anyway.Totally agree with this. RDM says it every time "i try to talk to all my players, and give them confidence" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 He gave him chances but when he did score while Drogba was in Africa, he compared him to Sheva and Kezman.Which was thoroughly denied as a misquotation in a later press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Which was thoroughly denied as a misquotation in a later press conference.Torres also had a bust up with AVB for his interview in portuguese where he inclined to compare him to Sheva and Kezman (obviously it will be denied). Lets be honest......All of a sudden, Torres is performing, David Luiz is looking like a reincarnation of Carvalho, The entire team is doing well once AVB was let go.AVB rubbed everyone the wrong way, right from his press conferences to his handling of his own players. He even tried to phase out Cech, along with Cole and Lampard. Not playing Kalou, Anelka and Alex because they refused to sign extension is just being stupid. You have to look at what you need in the present to win games. You cant just go with my way or high way theory specially at the big clubs where pressure to win is huge.Benching Cole and Lampard at Napoli was like signing his own death warrant. The guy is a good tactician but his naivety was exposed as he tried to change too many things too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Regarding Torres, one of the reasons why he is performing now is because the atmosphere in the team is much more relaxed and friendly with less pressure as opposed to the one which AVB created which looked like a dictator ruling the things in the dressing room. Ollie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I've really noticed that nearly every time Nando touches the ball in the area the commentators say, " Back in his Liverpool days he would have scored," or something of that nature. Christ on a bike, you would think his shots to goals ratio was 1/1 listening to some of these twits.There's something else among all the things that are "forgotten" about any Torres analysis. At Loserpool not only he received balls into space but he had 3, 4 or 5 chances per game whereas especially the month before Villas Boas got sacked he hardly did receive anything than a lucky clearance falling on him. Despite his constant movement, he was given no service and especially; no service reflecting any offensive animation preset.But he still got the stick, people's logic at times...Anyway I'm glad not having stopped defending him considering he's starting to show his real worth... But from my point of view it's not really that, he plays well since January after a good start of the season (and before he was benched 10 times in a row). I'm among the ones who thinks that only goals lacked to his games since January, the movement and the chances created for others, assists as well... were already there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Reoprts are indicating that Arsenal are to bid £160 million for a double-swoop of London rivals Chelsea goal scoring threat, Fernando Torres and hard working winger Salomon Kalou, as Robin Van Persie looks set to for a move to Accringron StanelySource: Goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 The motivation key:"Either you score, or i am going to let Luiz be you hair-stylist!" Tortilla9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I am very disappointed. I came to this thread expecting some sort of April's fool like an 80m bid for Torres from Arsenal. Reoprts are indicating that Arsenal are to bid £160 million for a double-swoop of London rivals Chelsea goal scoring threat, Fernando Torres and hard working winger Salomon Kalou, as Robin Van Persie looks set to for a move to Accringron StanelySource: GoalThanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEssien 127 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I think it's because before the pressure was ALWAYS on JUST HIM, but since our recent disappointments and team failures, he's been overlooked and he doesn't feel to much pressure. And with our "stars" like Lampard and Cole playing terribly, he's found the chance to really prove a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 well, torres actualy plays very good with fights, assists and all that team work, but the guy is striker and he should start scoring regulary...maybe it is true, that he needs backup playmaker, but he misses a lot of chances. last game against aston villa was good example of his another miss (well the keeper denied goal, but distance was soo small and torres should socre). and there is plenty of such misses. if he would score them, he would have at least 8 goals in pl only. i still trust in him, cant really imagine torres in form at chelsea, it would be a beast but there is always hope...el nino must score against benfica and then, he could be officialy back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Well said Martin Samuel -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2123670/Martin-Samuel-If-Torres-scored-mattered.html termninja 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Absolutely. It's utterly disgraceful for anyone to blame AVB for Torres' own pathetic displays. If Torres truly believes that, he should take a good look at himself in the mirror. SW_Blue, manpe and Peace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 weird thing ive been thinking about...i believe torres has only scored in a blue shirt since hes been at chelsea... hahahahahaWEEEIIIIIRRRRRRDDDD, he MUST be a TRUE blue then! hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 It looks like they've actually done some work on corners for once. For that 3rd, Torres was standing on the line then just sprinted out to the near post as if it was planned to flick on.On each goal, Torres genuinely looked happy that we'd scored, punching the air in celebration. He's beginning to look like part of the team now rather than an outsider :blue scalf: Sheva., tmessy, Blue Armour and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCFC 357 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 weird thing ive been thinking about...i believe torres has only scored in a blue shirt since hes been at chelsea... hahahahahaWEEEIIIIIRRRRRRDDDD, he MUST be a TRUE blue then! hahahahaBarclays Asia Trophy final against Villa? Wasn't that in black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Barclays Asia Trophy final against Villa? Wasn't that in black?Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Barclays Asia Trophy final against Villa? Wasn't that in black?I don't think club friendlies count in the modern era. Unless your name is Romario, that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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