Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I have been doing some scouting, so far I have noticed they press high up the pitch and there weak spot is the right back so hopefully Hazard is fit to exploit that space, ramires shld not play as he wastes position, would play mikel as he does well keepin the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Atletico's defenders look like they will give us chances, we just have to be clinical with our chances, their mid is crazy thts were we might win or lose the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 People are fixated and obsessed with the wrong issue. I'm more worried about the headache AM high intensity and relentless pressing will cause rather than Courtois involvement. We have shown time and again the inability to cope with teams that press us high up the pitch as most of our players lack the technical ability and intelligence to maneuver their way out of such situations. even Barca couldn't handle it. Courtois is the absolute least of my worries.Which is why I can see Demba starting against them, as the easiest way to avoid their pressing game is to go route 1 up to demba and have Schurrle/Oscar, Willian, Hazard running onto the knockdowns. lionsden and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Which is why I can see Demba starting against them, as the easiest way to avoid their pressing game is to go route 1 up to demba and have Schurrle/Oscar, Willian, Hazard running onto the knockdowns.Prime Drogba was tailor made for this game. Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Atletico Madrid (like us) are very good at pressing the opposition's attacking players high up the pitch. I imagine that we will play a 4-2-3-1 with Schurrle, Oscar or Willian behind the striker. (Assuming Hazard is injured) None of those guys are very comfortable when they are pressed. Like someone said, we might need to start Demba and go direct in order to by-pass their pressing, but that's Jose's job and Mourinho has already dismissed this way of thinking as "reactive" not "proactive". Safe to say, Matic is a HUGE miss in this game because of his ability to play sharp, accurate vertical passes and to play-make from deep. If we aren't going route one, and we start Eto'o/Torres, then Oscar needs to drop deep and try to dictate tempo. He won't get a lot of joy higher up the pitch. I also have a hard time also seeing where a goal will come from for us in the away tie. Without Matic and Salah, we aren't playing to our full potential, but still we persevere. The fact that the second leg is at the Bridge is a good advantage for us. Eden will be 100% back as well and Eto will be fully match fit. If we come through unfazed (not another stupid 3-1) then we will finish the job at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 .Not sure it is true..Lukaku can play for chelsea if we can reach the final of CL..Because squad for final is different and teams can add loanies with them... Not sure what to make of this either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 .Not sure it is true..Lukaku can play for chelsea if we can reach the final of CL..Because squad for final is different and teams can add loanies with them... Not sure what to make of this either.DAFUQ!!Imagine if we beat Atletico and get Bayern in the final and it goes to penalties with Lukaku missing it once again ala super cup and Bayern winning it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Eden Hazard should reportedly be fit for the CL semi-final 1st leg vs Atletico after scans show there's no lasting damage to his calf. (Sun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 People are fixated and obsessed with the wrong issue. I'm more worried about the headache AM high intensity and relentless pressing will cause rather than Courtois involvement. We have shown time and again the inability to cope with teams that press us high up the pitch as most of our players lack the technical ability and intelligence to maneuver their way out of such situations. even Barca couldn't handle it. Courtois is the absolute least of my worries.It is definitely not an easy game. The battle in midfield will be crucial. The one who dominates this are is more likely to win the match. I don;t think our team lacks that intensity and technicality to match up with them. I think we are even as far as the players are concerned or the difference is not that great. But we do have the upper hand tactically. They will try to disrupt our system and we will do the same. The one who forces his system and tempo on the other is likely the one to win. darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofacej 132 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You people are dicks.I'm one person, and I'd much rather things were resolved peacefully, but I did find the ethics conversation tiring.Personally I think the ideal scenario for us is that 8 million gets knocked off Costa's release clause at the end of the season.Courtois gets experience, doesn't resent us for preventing him from playing, Atletico doesn't have to pay us anything, and we get the player we want.On the topic of Atletico, they were the team I least wanted to draw of those available, but I think we still have a good chance of overcoming them.I just hope we don't try to be the aggressors and that they do. We've definitely got the pace in our team to hurt them on the break, but I'm not sure we'd be able to break them down if they decide to sit back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 This will be one hell of a tough tie but i'll be lying if i say i'm not thinking about the prospect of another UCL Final. To get to another final and to get there with Mourinho will be the most emotional day of my Chelsea life, especially if we win it. We have the players and with Eto'o, we have a striker that has been in this situation so many times and a winner of 4 UCL's already, scoring in 2 finals. in 2012 we were with the best Bayern team, better than this years one. Jose's Real Madrid, the best Real Madrid team in the modern era imo and Pep's Barca team, the best team in the world. We have a much bigger chance winning it this year than we had then. I'm hoping our experience will once again prove to be the difference between us going through. Atletico haven't experienced this in the Champions League before. We have players who have won it, been in many finals and Semi's and a manager who has been here countless times before who has also won it. We may not be favourites but we sure as hell can win it and then who knows? In a one of game, anything can happen. We have got the best possible draw with the home leg second. Buzzing for this. I can't believe we're back again so soon. It's unbelievable, Roquila and MetsajCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I don't see how Atletico is a easier mashup then Real. Football is not played on paper and it is not always about individual talents. If you look at Real on paper they should be on top of La liga first of all, but they come nowhere near close to Atletico in terms of mentality, Alti is a strong side mentally who will play hard and give it all obviously they get that from their manager who i rate so highly. Also Real are great bunch of individual talent but they also don't come close to Alti in terms of unity and cohesive as a team. Real loss at home against Barca perfectly displays why they will not win the league or the CL, they were obviously the better side against Barca but they bottled it with poor individual mistakes. That kinda mentality will not win you the CL with that kinda lack of composureI am pretty certain that the CL winner will come out of this fixture. Experience. Hardly anyone in that Atletico side have been this far in the competition, Real have been there so many times they have ICE in their veins. At this level in the competition its about knowing how to win these games and not being too cavalier and not being too timid. You need a manager whose been there and done it before as well as a squad who have experience at this level.No question in my mind that Atletico are the weakest of the 4 teams and thats not because I don't rate them, they are playing unbelievable football this year; they have overachieved. For me though Final 4 will come down to experience and Chelsea, Real and Bayern all have that... Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The bridge will be fucking rocking come that second leg……Atletico better make sure they are ready, because we will damn sure will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Am i the only one thinking we will win at athletico? I hope not. Mourinho knows unlike a bayern or madrid match-up who can turn a tie away because of their obvious attack, we can end this tie in the first leg with a 2-1 victory in favour of chelsea. It is very like mourinho to spot weaknesses and athletico's biggest weakness is a loss at their home. They are a team that do not score much so if they get beat in the first leg at home, the tie is over never mind the return leg. I am sure mourinho knows this and will play for this. Its all about winning the tie at athletico, its so obvious. A win is very achievable with the right tactics. Playing long balls to Ba up front and foward pressing will trouble them a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Experience. Hardly anyone in that Atletico side have been this far in the competition, Real have been there so many times they have ICE in their veins. At this level in the competition its about knowing how to win these games and not being too cavalier and not being too timid. You need a manager whose been there and done it before as well as a squad who have experience at this level.No question in my mind that Atletico are the weakest of the 4 teams and thats not because I don't rate them, they are playing unbelievable football this year; they have overachieved. For me though Final 4 will come down to experience and Chelsea, Real and Bayern all have that... I think this is such an underestimation of Atleti. You're in for a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I think this is such an underestimation of Atleti. You're in for a surprise. Nah... not at all. I watch them TONS! This is about the final four and the lesser of 3 evils. If I had my choice between Atleti, Bayern or Real I'd take Atleti over two legs for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Nah... not at all. I watch them TONS! This is about the final four and the lesser of 3 evils. If I had my choice between Atleti, Bayern or Real I'd take Atleti over two legs for sure. You watch them tons and think they're the weakest of the four teams? To each his own I guess. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You watch them tons and think they're the weakest of the four teams? To each his own I guess. Who is the weakest in your expert opinion? keeping in mind of course that I say this in the final four of the champions league where experience counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Experience. Hardly anyone in that Atletico side have been this far in the competition, Real have been there so many times they have ICE in their veins. At this level in the competition its about knowing how to win these games and not being too cavalier and not being too timid. You need a manager whose been there and done it before as well as a squad who have experience at this level.No question in my mind that Atletico are the weakest of the 4 teams and thats not because I don't rate them, they are playing unbelievable football this year; they have overachieved. For me though Final 4 will come down to experience and Chelsea, Real and Bayern all have that... Atletico has not overachieved, they are at where they should be. Among the best in Europe, simply they belong in the last 4. This Atletico side is experienced, may not have CL experience but they have made numerous cup runs in the last few years.Dortmund made to the final last season, without numerous attempts in CL. This Atletico side been together for a while, their style is very dangerous in CL football. This is a freaking good team.I am not a believer in Real. Ramos can get sent off in a dime of moment, they will concede goals that they shouldn't. They play the worst "team/unity" football out of the remaining sides. They have had a easy road to the semi final, not really tested. Also Ronaldo could miss the first leg in Madrid, this could get ugly. communicate, lionsden and dee25 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Who is the weakest in your expert opinion? keeping in mind of course that I say this in the final four of the champions league where experience counts.I completely agree with @Joker10 and with what @remains of the day said. This Atleti team is a very, very organised, drilled and settled side.While the other three teams are still adjusting and adapting to a new system, tactics, coaching methods etc these Atleti players have mastered Simeone's system so they don't have much weaknesses to exploit. There are question marks as to whether they have the depth to compete on two fronts ( I don't think they do) but anyone who thinks this tie will be only slightly more harder than PSG will be very surprised. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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