The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dont know why people are thinking this is a walk in the park, acting as if we've won it already.Still have to get passed the likes of Liverpool, Napoli, Inter and god help us, Athl. Madrid.We should really treat this like the Champions League and play the same team as we would normally.But it isn't the Champions League and the priority has to be the league. If we have a league game coming up the weekend after a Europa League game then we have to rest the main players for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 But it isn't the Champions League and the priority has to be the league. If we have a league game coming up the weekend after a Europa League game then we have to rest the main players for it.Can safely say that we aren't going to win the league. A top four finish plus Europa league title is possible by playing the first team.I'm all for giving the younger lads a run, but if we want to be contenders for this trophy fringe players aren't gonna be enough, unless we are just gonna treat this comp as an excuse to use them rather than winning another trophy. Its one or the other, there are some good teams in the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Would prefer the FA Cup over this TBH..I know most fans do, but my question is why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I dont see where you are trying to get...Just because you expirienced it, does not mean you have the right to think our young fans know nothing about our history. You realise that with today's technology anyone can gather enough quality (not talking about wikipedia) information to be familiar with our history. I have met 20 years old fanatic abroad fans that know a lot more about Chelsea than 40-50 years old English fans. Worst than that, what does it have to do with EL?It has absolutely nothing to do with being old or young. We are not counting history, we are analysing our current situation and it should not correspond to an EL Qualification. The amount of money we have invested in the last decate should have made it an obligation to fight for UCL (which we have done every single year). I realise we are in transition mode and we fell with dignity, but trying to make EL an important competition for the current status of the club is laughable.YES! Before Roman, it was better than we usually fought for, but at this moment our inspirations have rise significantly. No one is diminishing or forgetting our past, but football is a momentarily science. Back in time, this would not be close to failure. The present (and money) shows us an exit in the group stage is considerated a failure, though.Europa League is a very welcomed trophy, but it should not be placed as an important objective. It takes away your focus out of EPL, it does not bring you money, it can be shameful (if we lose for a pub team), etc.We didn't "fail with dignity". We failed because we were shit throughout. Struggled away in Denmark, outclassed by Shaktar and horsed by Juve. Where is the dignity in that????We beat a pub team last night, nothing more. Dignity, my arse.Because we all have access to multimedia nowadays doesnt mean that everybody bothers to look back on the history of our club, the fabric of our club, The amount of kids running about Glasgow nowadays with Chelsea tops on is unreal. Could probably count on one hand the ones who actually care about what our club is, what it stands for.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 We didn't "fail with dignity". We failed because we were shit throughout. Struggled away in Denmark, outclassed by Shaktar and horsed by Juve. Where is the dignity in that????We beat a pub team last night, nothing more. Dignity, my arse.Because we all have access to multimedia nowadays doesnt mean that everybody bothers to look back on the history of our club, the fabric of our club, The amount of kids running about Glasgow nowadays with Chelsea tops on is unreal. Could probably count on one hand the ones who actually care about what our club is, what it stands for..We were grossly outplayed. Dignity is another thing, I said we had dignity, not quality. The majority of our players and RDM did what they could, they showed commitment.It is said that you think you are above young fans and that they dont care about CFC. You probably just know some shit fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 After what happened a few months ago, i want to beat Atletico Madrid in the final so much, that would satisfy me a lot. I really hope we try n win this, would be another trophy on the cv. They all matter. Kez, Peace. and Changingman_2000 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 We were grossly outplayed. Dignity is another thing, I said we had dignity, not quality. The majority of our players and RDM did what they could.It is said that you think you are above young fans and that they dont care about CFC. You probably just know some shit fans...I didnt say I was above anyone, at any time.This club, at present has absolutely fuck all dignity.Do you know some shit fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Do you know some shit fans?Of course, there are always shit fans. I can also recognise there are excellent fans though...You placed older fans who passed through hard times above young fans. I extremely disagree with it!I know we have a lot of fans who only cheer for Chelsea when we are winning, those arent fans. They just follow the trend, tomorrow they will follow another club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Of course, there are always shit fans. I can also recognise there are excellent fans though...You placed older fans who passed through hard times above young fans. I extremely disagree with it!I know we have a lot of fans who only cheer for Chelsea when we are winning, those arent fans. They just follow the trend, tomorrow they will follow another club.I didnt place older fans above other fans, I voiced an opinion. You can take that as you please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 This club, at present has absolutely fuck all dignity.Don't agree with that in the slightest.Can safely say that we aren't going to win the league. A top four finish plus Europa league title is possible by playing the first team.I'm all for giving the younger lads a run, but if we want to be contenders for this trophy fringe players aren't gonna be enough, unless we are just gonna treat this comp as an excuse to use them rather than winning another trophy. Its one or the other, there are some good teams in the competition.I agree that we aren't going to win the league, but we have to prioritise a top four finish and I don't think we can jeopardise that with a run at a trophy that really has very little in the way of prestige left about it anymore. It's a trophy that really only interests the 'second tier' clubs, and I mean that respectfully.Look at the British teams who go far in it - in the last decade Fulham, Middlesbrough and the two Glasgow teams have reached finals. Would it be nice to win it? Sure. But let's focus on what's really important this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 The priorities are simple. Win the Club World Cup, Win the Europa League, finish in the top 4. If this happens, i finish the season as a very happy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Have just added 8 more teams into the 2 pots - 4 in each - after 6 of the Europa League groups just concluded. The other 6 groups have kicked off and 6 more teams will join in.Atletico Madrid are now one of our potential opponents in the Last 32! Sheva. and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 We didn't "fail with dignity". We failed because we were shit throughout. Struggled away in Denmark, outclassed by Shaktar and horsed by Juve. Where is the dignity in that????Despite all of that, we had 10 points which is normally enough to go through, superior GD to Shakhtar and only went out due to away goals.All this with a striker that doesn't shoot, leaky defence and unbalanced midfield. Kez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 The priorities are simple. Win the Club World Cup, Win the Europa League, finish in the top 4. If this happens, i finish the season as a very happy man.This priority list is getting smaller and smaller lol. FA Cup would be nice to add aswell. But your list seems plausible. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Think whether we will take this competition seriously or not will depend on where are we in the league, FA Cup, League come February and what we do in January. Nonetheless, our main priority this season has to be finishing in the Top 3. Nothing less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdenHazard 163 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Obviously the troll face appeared in that post was just for decoration...Didn't notice it lol, Just always see people calling him to be sacked etc. Its alright us wanting him out, But who'll actually come in and replace him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdenHazard 163 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Tottennham fans signing "Champions of Europe, Not anymore" - Embarrassing, Singing about us when were not even playing them. We put them in the Europa League, Now just imagine being able to knock them out of this lol. BlueLion., Kez and termninja 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Despite all of that, we had 10 points which is normally enough to go through, superior GD to Shakhtar and only went out due to away goals.All this with a striker that doesn't shoot, leaky defence and unbalanced midfield.Six of those points came against a pub team. Out of a possible twelve from Shaktar and Juve, we only got four points, and were fucking lucky to beat Shaktar at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Six of those points came against a pub team. Out of a possible twelve from Shaktar and Juve, we only got four points, and were fucking lucky to beat Shaktar at home.Juve only picked up 4 points against this said pub team, you still have to beat them to stand a chance of going through.What killed us really was the goal we conceded at the end to Juve at SB, those 2 points dropped would have seen us into the next round - without needing to win an away game for the second straight season. Bosnian Blue and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Tottennham fans signing "Champions of Europe, Not anymore" - Embarrassing, Singing about us when were not even playing them. We put them in the Europa League, Now just imagine being able to knock them out of this lol.Well that's brilliant! xD Us kicking them out of Europe again would be priceless. Even worth more then going through the group stage It would scar the twats for life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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