The Benitez Thread

[zolayes 14,489]

You cannot understand ? Actually that's pretty simple.

As DYC pointed out somewhere, our board is not run by men of football, but by men of business. And as business men, they do think in term of $$$$$. For them, there are no such things as transition. They want results at the height of what the club spends.

For instance, even a blind man could see that the most expensive laydyboy in history isn't a footballer anymore. However, our club spent 50 fucking millions pound in order to bring him here, spend £180k each and every week to pay his wage. As they are business men, they don't see a player, but an amount of money. Hence, to their mind, a 50 fucking millions pound has to be prolific - and if he isn't, it cannot be his fault, since he is only an item, but it's the manager fault. The same goes for our attacking midfielders. The club spent almost £80m on three CAM, that represents a huge investment. The whole world knows that these three players are for the future, but the board splashed big money to get them, so it has to pay off right now. That is also the true for the whole team. Our squad cost a lot, both in term of transfer fee and in term of wages. Though our board only sees a heap of dollar bills - a bloody huge heap of dollar bills. Therefore, they consider that our team has to be successful and brilliant. And if it doesn't work this way, that must be the manufacturer's fault (I mean the manager).

All in all, they do not see the team as a set of players, but as an addition of money/investment. They do not see the players as individuality which involves (which improves or decreases), but they see them as items (should I say as end products ?). For example, when you buy, let's say, a car. Do you expect it to work perfectly ten months after you bought it ? Or do you want it to work right away ? Now replace "car" by "player" and "you" by "board", and you pictured the situation at our club.

While 20 millions dollar plus 20 millions dollar will always make 40 millions dollar, under any circumstance - a $20m player plus another $20m will seldom make a $40m set of players on the field. Sometimes, it will turn out to be pretty successful and virtualy worth more than $40m, but some other times, it will appear to be the other way around.

Unfortunatly, the board doesn't think this way. That is the problem. And, if we keep following that path, it will turn out to be a major issue. Yeah okay, it's fine to have men which are good to organize pre-seasons in Asia and stuff, or men good at selling shirt. Nonetheless, we desperatly need men of football within the board - men who understand how this sport works.

what you say is so true but so FUCKING DEPRESSING...they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

[Changingman_2000 876]

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[EdenHazard 163]

Isn't it worrying though, Benitez was given a contract till the end of the season. No guarantee's about keeping his job or losing it. Its not like, he's on a two-year contract. So the team he works with, Isn't really going to be one he's working with for years. So what if he's just messing us up? You never know. I doubt that anyone would be low to do that. But you never know.

Mess us up, Take the money. Leave.

Either way, Here's to hoping he doesn't make it till the end of the season. Because god knows what we'll be like if that does happen.

[Kezza 1,965]

Rumours doing the rounds that if Real lose to Atletico tonight then Mourinho will leave. If this happens then Roman has to swallow his pride and get him back!

He would get the crowd back onside and the players playing for both him and the shirt. There is no better fit for this football club than Jose Mourinho!

I'm supporting Atletico tonight! C'mon Falcao!

Looks like he's staying in Madrid

[The only place to be 11,313]

Really mate? You're going to make me do this to you?

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So after taking all of the above into account, are you really still going to try & pretend like you haven't been defending him all along?

Sure, you say that you hate the guy just as much as anyone else - but then you continually go on to digress by saying we should support him nevertheless because 'He is the coach now, ergo he is part of the team. That doesn't mean I like him or even enjoy the fact he's at the club. But the fact is he is at the club and for my club to prosper I need him to do a good job. That's why he has my support, begrudging at is may be.'

& you seem to have no real issue whatsoever with forgiving him for the unforgivable words that he has attempted to tarnish this club with - 'You bring up the fact that he slagged us off in the past. So fucking what? That was his job, to gain a competitive edge for his team in whatever manner possible and if that meant giving his own fans a hard on by slagging us off then so be it. I can let a few words slide for the sake of getting behind my team and yes, my team's coach. That's what he is.'

As far as I am aware, if you are supporting him in any way, shape, or form - particularly if you are condoning his putrid past behaviour & referring to him as 'my team's coach' - you are thus advocating his mere presence at The Bridge. Which you definitely seem to be continually doing & maintaining, regardless of the 'begrudging' circumstances & your valiant beguiling efforts in diverting focus away from that fact.

So it appears that you may very well be just as much of a classless hypocrite as the fat one himself...

That - or you're just a condescending charlatan who somehow believes it is so much better to support a manager you hate than to display your pure & honest disgust in vagrant fashion like the rest of us who choose to stand up for what we feel is truly right for the club we love - because it is somehow above you? Because you're one of the few who 'actually make their way to a football match at the Bridge.' every week?

I'm sorry, but do you think you could sound any more desperately petty & contrived in your reasoning than you currently do if you tried?

He's had 3 games now to prove that his managerial capabilities may just be able to partially compensate for his personal inadequacies. All that he has actually managed to prove in that time - is how right & justified we all were in abusing the fuck out of him in the first place.

There is absolutely no hypocrisy whatsoever in what I've said. I've stated I don't like the guy and I hated the idea of him being at the club, but he's here now and the pragmatist in me wants him to succeed for the sake of my club.

I've let what he said in the past go because I honestly don't care about it. I'm sorry if that isn't something you approve of, but he said what he said when he was trying to gain a competitive edge and if that meant getting a bit more noise from his own fans by slagging off our's, I can rationalise that. However I will say that he has not done himself any favours in explaining it in recent days.

I'm not advocating his presence at the Bridge - I'm pointing out that for the foreseeable future he IS going to be at the Bridge. Those are vastly different concepts. I don't want him there, but he's going to be. I didn't want him to be hired, but he has been. Can you see the difference between those ideas?

I probably do think it's best to support Rafa and the team, rather than boo him in the hopes it will change time and he won't have been hired. I honestly don't know who else is out there who would come in and do the job right now, without it doing more damage to our hopes our hiring a decent manager in the summer.

This all completely ignores the fact that I've slated the team's performance today. It wasn't good enough and his changes were poor in my opinion. But you've decided to eschew a decent argument against me in favour of trying (and failing) to paint me as a hypocrite whilst calling me a 'charlatan', a 'hypocrite' and 'classless'.

The thing is that I ultimately view you as I view Rafa. It's part of what supporting the modern Chelsea is, and I have to try and accept you both graciously.

[Kezza 1,965]

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

Isn't it worrying though, Benitez was given a contract till the end of the season. No guarantee's about keeping his job or losing it. Its not like, he's on a two-year contract. So the team he works with, Isn't really going to be one he's working with for years. So what if he's just messing us up? You never know. I doubt that anyone would be low to do that. But you never know.

Mess us up, Take the money. Leave.

Either way, Here's to hoping he doesn't make it till the end of the season. Because god knows what we'll be like if that does happen.

How is Benitez messing us up? Our counter attacking football in the first half was pretty good, we were in control, its just NONE of our players took their chances.

If the players fuck up in front of goal, how is that the manager's fault?

[Rmpr 8,977]

He looks so sexy and happy in that pic

[EdenHazard 163]

How is Benitez messing us up? Our counter attacking football in the first half was pretty good, we were in control, its just NONE of our players took their chances.

If the players fuck up in front of goal, how is that the manager's fault?

Because the players that 'fuck up infront of goal' wouldn't be playing had the manager not picked them. Torres etc, Doubt Rafa will ever drop him. Them two are like lovers. His tactics etc. Substitutions etc.

[Manuf 1,448]

Isn't it worrying though, Benitez was given a contract till the end of the season. No guarantee's about keeping his job or losing it. Its not like, he's on a two-year contract. So the team he works with, Isn't really going to be one he's working with for years. So what if he's just messing us up? You never know. I doubt that anyone would be low to do that. But you never know.

Mess us up, Take the money. Leave.

Either way, Here's to hoping he doesn't make it till the end of the season. Because god knows what we'll be like if that does happen.

Eden, what happened to your finishing?

[EdenHazard 163]

Eden, what happened to your finishing?

Abramovich told me not to score, Because doing so. Makes Torres look even worse. I've also been spending majority of my 'training' time with Mrs Carneiro.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Mr. Abramovich did purchase a Ferrarri for The Special One to say he was sorry. Rehiring The Special One is the only way to resolve this huge fuck up. I for one will be rooting for Atletico Madrid today

Lol not sure how well that would make up for it mind...ahh so crap!!

Banning banners is daft but doesnt stop anything,16 minute chants are gana go on and the usual Rafa out etc

Was willing to give him a chance at the start kinda still am but the whole situation is crazy.Dont give a crap about what he said about in the past about us he werent our Manager and its expected.I do however give a crap about what he does now he is our manager and so far it aint anything amazing.Sod what the conequences are your only on a short contract..bench Torres!!!!And if Roman or however insits on him being played..think sod it and let them take over..

[Kez 2,727]

I know it's been posted but it deserves to go in here as well....

[Spike 12,049]

I kind of want him to fail so maybe it wakes Roman up. He can't just keep sacking managers like this.

[EBH 283]

What does this actually mean? Maybe we'll go back to the good old days of the late-90s when we'd never ever sack a Chelsea legend who became manager.

What this means is that we stop being Andriy Shevchenko FC and Fernando Torres FC.