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At the end of the day, Roman has the biggest yes vote in the room.

For months now we've heard from other fans how some of our supporters are afraid to criticise the owner for fear of him walking away. I'm not too sure they aren't true.

If you subscribe to the view that he has yes men in Gourlay and Emenalo then you have to acknowledge that he hired them, ergo he must like having yes men around him. If that's the case, why on Earth would you not call for Roman to leave?

He's the owner and will more than likely have the ultimate veto or approval. What we lack at board level is clear and that is experience, the confidence that experience and independant wealth brings with it (and a damn big pair of big-boy bollocks), who'll tell Roman how it is and needs to be, thanking him for his support and input and letting him know just how things are going. Maybe Roman's background is a bigger issue than most think, Russian poor boy made very good, trusts next to no-one other than old associates, thinks that they can do the business for him in football as well as his other businesses.

I'm more of a mind now that at the end of Jose's reign Roman thought he knew best. he's then got lucky or unlucky with managers and the senior players have helped drag out success with help from managers of course. We're now at the point with the diminishing powers of those senior players we have left where their will isn't quite enough.

Jose's probably available and will have the motivation for a new go with us. The next jigsaw piece that's needed is getting rid of some of the board, including the over-promoted Gourlay and Emenalo, he wouldn't survive Jose anyhow.

I hear David Gill and David Dein may be available! These are experienced and skilled football people who are not reliant on wages from Roman for their wealth or careers and the sort of people a club with the status of ours should be employing. They could build a structure to deliver success and sustainability.

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He's the owner and will more than likely have the ultimate veto or approval. What we lack at board level is clear and that is experience, the confidence that experience and independant wealth brings with it (and a damn big pair of big-boy bollocks), who'll tell Roman how it is and needs to be, thanking him for his support and input and letting him know just how things are going. Maybe Roman's background is a bigger issue than most think, Russian poor boy made very good, trusts next to no-one other than old associates, thinks that they can do the business for him in football as well as his other businesses.

I'm more of a mind now that at the end of Jose's reign Roman thought he knew best. he's then got lucky or unlucky with managers and the senior players have helped drag out success with help from managers of course. We're now at the point with the diminishing powers of those senior players we have left where their will isn't quite enough.

Jose's probably available and will have the motivation for a new go with us. The next jigsaw piece that's needed is getting rid of some of the board, including the over-promoted Gourlay and Emenalo, he wouldn't survive Jose anyhow.

I hear David Gill and David Dein may be available! These are experienced and skilled football people who are not reliant on wages from Roman for their wealth or careers and the sort of people a club with the status of ours should be employing. They could build a structure to deliver success and sustainability.

I have talked about our need for football men on the board ...Dein and Gill were exactly that ,,, Dein would be perfect for us along with Hoddle on the board

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When you sit and think about it, the idea of us maybe getting rid of some players and being forced to play the likes of Chalobah, Lukaku, Azpi, De Bruyne, maybe Courtois (selling Cech could cover some of the CL shortfall), Piazon and maybe even Feruz could be damn exciting. A whole crop of youngsters being given the chance to build a new Chelsea, where 5 players don't hold all the power in the locker room.

Yeah I also said that earlier too - next season will be a transition season again :)

I dunno why but really like Martinez as manager

Love the style of Wigan - sure they get beat, but they have little money, small fan-base (get more for rugby games IIRC) - but all the players play together and better than their value or skill suggests.

I also think Martinez is a decent bloke and deserves a crack with some quality players :) it would prob sit well with Moses ;)

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I have talked about our need for football men on the board ...Dein and Gill were exactly that ,,, Dein would be perfect for us along with Hoddle on the board

If Gourlay went, maybe even Wilkins could fill the same role that you suggest Hoddle could..........although I'd doubt it could happen. Pat Nevin seems to have the intellect and diplomacy required.

Dein would be the perfect choice I'd agree, Gill seemingly has other aspirations but his type is what we need.

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Jose's probably available and will have the motivation for a new go with us. The next jigsaw piece that's needed is getting rid of some of the board, including the over-promoted Gourlay and Emenalo, he wouldn't survive Jose anyhow.

I have talked about our need for football men on the board ...Dein and Gill were exactly that ,,, Dein would be perfect for us along with Hoddle on the board

Just curious, could Martin Broughton do the business for us? He did run big companies, but has some insight in football.

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I really really hate rafa but nw is the time to support Chelsea and get behind the boys 4 the last 10 games. This means supportin Rafa too i knw its nt the best of prospects but we really need to go on a winning run and this can happen only if we support the boys includin Rafa

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Just curious, could Martin Broughton do the business for us? He did run big companies, but has some insight in football.

As far as I am aware a very successful businessman and also a Chelsea STH for lots of years. Downside is his football experience isn't huge and he's been at that 'orrible red mob and to be frank I dread the thought of anyone with a link to them in a position of authority at the club. We've had more than enough of that lot, no more ex-reds please, not for a very long time anyway.

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If Gourlay went, maybe even Wilkins could fill the same role that you suggest Hoddle could..........although I'd doubt it could happen. Pat Nevin seems to have the intellect and diplomacy required.

Dein would be the perfect choice I'd agree, Gill seemingly has other aspirations but his type is what we need.

When you ;look at our board ,,, Gourlay shirt salesman ... Buck ..lawyer .. Emanalo .. Girls team coach ... Marina ...Spy ... Eugene friend and business pal.

is it any wonder .................

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Great more in-fighting just what we need :)

Yes please lots more fighting, with any luck one of the players will give his smug, grotesque looking, goatee covered two chins a good whack. I don't normally condone violence, but in his case I can more than make an exception.

If he is to go sooner than the close season, I'm almost certain it'll take a biblical level event like a mass fallout with 'The Incompetent Twat' (think of the three letter acronym!) for him to get gone sooner rather than later.

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@MHL 47,

That would even make our chances of getting a good manager worse.

Yep, maybe so, but I'd buy a ticket to watch it! :D

In that one second I'd have got more enjoyment than in the majority of games I've endured with that fat fraud in the job.

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Whether it's accurate or not, Neil Ashton (Daily Mail or Express) has a story this morning of a bust up on the training ground yesterday. The story goes that TFSW tried to dig the players out for not performing. One player retorted "This is the mainly the same players that won the Champions League last year, so maybe your the problem, and not us".

Him still employed is making us a laughing stock. :clown:

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Whether it's accurate or not, Neil Ashton (Daily Mail or Express) has a story this morning of a bust up on the training ground yesterday. The story goes that TFSW tried to dig the players out for not performing. One player retorted "This is the mainly the same players that won the Champions League last year, so maybe your the problem, and not us".

Him still employed is making us a laughing stock. :clown:

Similar stuff in the Cracked Mirror

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It's just bull shit throughout. Sacking Rdm. Appointing him. Keeping torres. Not signing a midfielder. Rafa's questionable tactics. Rafa's questionable subs. Rafa's questionable attitude. Players attitude. Boards failure to get rid of rafa after being the worse manager in the roman reign.

How is he still there. If roman makes him the permanent manger then the world has gone absolutely crazy. Saying that it's already crazy. How the fuck is this happening.

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