Spike 12,049 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Fluid in attack and possession allowing players to express themselves. Rigid and disciplined in defence allowing no goals to get through. There is a reason why Chelsea is the highest scoring and least conceding team in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 We'll find out more about RDM's management with the team in the next 10 games as we play:Tottenham (A)Shakhtar Donetsk (A)Man United (H - Premier League)Man United (H - League Cup)Swansea (A)Shakhtar Donetsk (H)Liverpool (H)West Brom (A)Juventus (A)Man City (H)All of them are pretty tough for their own reasons.starting line-up for tottenham (a):cechivanovic - cahill - luiz - coleramires - mikelhazard - oscar - matatorresstarting line-up for swansea (a), shakhtar donetsk (h) and west brom (a):blackmanazpilicueta - terry - cahill - bertrandromeu - lampardmoses - piazon - marinsturridgestarting line-up for the rest of the listed matches:cechivanovic - cahill - luiz - coleramires - mikelhazard - oscar - matatorres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 It was coherent as Hazard and Mata's defensive work (like most of the attacking players) wasn't sufficient. Hazard improved physically, Mata benefited form his break and we worked a lot on the pattern of play to keep the ball easier.There's a massive improvement on the shape of the team, the shape of the pressing as well, the ball retention and the combinasons on the wings. That's really pleasingYou're right. We've gotten better. And I think it was since the juve game when oscar came into the mix. Chelsea changed. His high pressing and energy is just a major plus in balancing the attack and defence.He makes hazard and especially mata a far better player. Taking the defensive pressure off mata.Against Juve we didn't press for 90mn, players got tired before, 70th minute. Yeah, definitely improvement.I have to plan to see the games chronogically, I haven't saw the Arsenal, Nort.. and Norwich in full.Remember at the 70th minute was around when oscar got of injured. His pressing was missed and we couldn't take the ball off them quickly again.The same with arsenal, oscar pressed arteta into losing possesion. Since he started playing our possesion has greatly improved even the chances we give away are lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I was Very critical of him for known reasons but know im pretty sure he can lead us past that glorious Lamps and jt Time and thats more then needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 starting line-up for tottenham (a):cechivanovic - cahill - luiz - coleramires - mikelhazard - oscar - matatorresstarting line-up for swansea (a), shakhtar donetsk (h) and west brom (a):blackmanazpilicueta - terry - cahill - bertrandromeu - lampardmoses - piazon - marinsturridgestarting line-up for the rest of the listed matches:cechivanovic - cahill - luiz - coleramires - mikelhazard - oscar - matatorresRidiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 We'll find out more about RDM's management with the team in the next 10 games as we play:Tottenham (A)Shakhtar Donetsk (A)Man United (H - Premier League)Man United (H - League Cup)Swansea (A)Shakhtar Donetsk (H)Liverpool (H)West Brom (A)Juventus (A)Man City (H)All of them are pretty tough for their own reasons.Swansea (A)Liverpool (H)West Brom (A)These are the easiest game of the sequence. That alone, prooves how much though this is!If we retain our 2 game lead and finish 1st on UCL, we will be in very good shape.I am looking foward to see how we perform. It will be exciting, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Don't think RDM is the man to lead us forward. He's not a 'talented' manager, he doesn't have the ability to be flexible with his tactics but he's a good-enough motivator & he's brought good luck to the club.Im sorry but that's insane, at his previous clubs he played an attractive brand of attacking football but last season when he got the job here he realized he didn't have the resources to be as attacking, so reigned it in and produced the tactics suitable until now where he has the players to attack, attack, attack he is.I would rather have a manager who makes use of his resources to give the team the best chance to get results (Robbie, Carlo, Fergie, Jose) than a manger who has an idealistic view of the game and will stick to it regardless of how detrimental it is to results (Wenger, Holloway, Rodgers - i imagine Pep will soon be added to this list also). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Its not a matter if i think he's the man to lead us forward, its that i WANT him to lead us forward. I trully am sick and tired of the revolving door, i want stability and RDM to be the manager who serves 10 years+. I have full confidence that we can be top of EPL at the midpoint, but the real test wil be during that 10 game stretch and how we react to a loss (if we have any) or a dissapointing draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Ridiculous.Especially the one proposed against Swansea, Shakhtar and West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Especially the one proposed against Swansea, Shakhtar and West Brom. you must love that " " alot,, hahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 you must love that " " alot,, hahahaha.Yes, I get bruises on my forehead a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 A lot of people seem to think that formation = strategy and tactics.The formation is 4-2-3-1.A part of RDM's stragtegy is that he might employ 3 Attacking Midfielder or 1 Attacking Midfielder and 2 Defensive Wingers. This coincides with the 4-2-3-1.However one his tactics is that Oscar man marks the oppponet's Midfield Playmaker. Another is that Mata might drop deep and dictate play instead of playing in the 'Hole'.The formation is the formation. Easy stuff.Strategy is the larger picture, the modus operandi to achieve a certain goal.Tactics aim to achieve more specific goals. Like man marking a certain important player, or drifting out wide to blur the lines of attack.Look at Barcelona v Chelsea last season. The strategy was to contain them as much as possible and hit on the counter-attack. Some of the tactics employed was Didier Drogba playing almost in the back four and Fernando Torres staying up high to beat the offside trap. The formation was still the 4-2-3-1 but the strategy to win and the tactics employed to counter specific threats are completly diffferent to those used against Arsenal or Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 @, All that suggest's is Robbie is a very clever man altering his tactics depending on our opponent's strength. If AVB did that more often he would still be manager here.Yes there be the occasional tactical fuck up (ie QPR) but in general im more than happy with what i have seen from Robbie in the tactical side of things.Based on whether Robbie is the man to lead us long term, there does seem to be a lot of fate in how Robbie has got where he is today.Roman delaying AVB's sacking hoping he will turn it around, he sacks AVB a week after Hiddink (who would have almost certainly got the job if he was free) took the Anzhi job.Roman has gone through numerous high profile manager's in an attempt to win the Champions League but who finally delivers it? the Chelsea legend who really got the job by default.Robbie was never a Roman man so to speak, if Robbie does end up being the long term manager craved as this club then it is to quote Neville written in the stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Yes he is!He has shown to know when to play what players and in the correct manner to get the result, albeit a little wrong with Ramires on the wing - but so far, so good. Only one hiccup against Madrid, and a few low points in QPR game but we are top of the table, and have a attacking sense that will scare anyteam - future looks good for Chelsea Football Club, and the man in the seat has only impressed. He has the media personality also, and deals with the pests in a manner which doesn't downgrade anyone nor looks to put himself into the circus act.Mr Suave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 A lot of people seem to think that formation = strategy and tactics.The formation is 4-2-3-1.A part of RDM's stragtegy is that he might employ 3 Attacking Midfielder or 1 Attacking Midfielder and 2 Defensive Wingers. This coincides with the 4-2-3-1.However one his tactics is that Oscar man marks the oppponet's Midfield Playmaker. Another is that Mata might drop deep and dictate play instead of playing in the 'Hole'.The formation is the formation. Easy stuff.Strategy is the larger picture, the modus operandi to achieve a certain goal.Tactics aim to achieve more specific goals. Like man marking a certain important player, or drifting out wide to blur the lines of attack.Look at Barcelona v Chelsea last season. The strategy was to contain them as much as possible and hit on the counter-attack. Some of the tactics employed was Didier Drogba playing almost in the back four and Fernando Torres staying up high to beat the offside trap. The formation was still the 4-2-3-1 but the strategy to win and the tactics employed to counter specific threats are completly diffferent to those used against Arsenal or Norwich.I agree that formation is not tactic. One thing that people forget is how team selection affect how a team play because players have their natural tendencies and they are not robot where the manager just move them to where he want. I believe mata going deep is because we don't have anybody to deliver the ball from midfield so as natural playmaker he will go deep and pick up the ball, I am not sure you can credit RDM for this.Although I definitely will give him credit for employing mikel+ramires against arsenal where we stiffled cazorla and asking oscar to mark pirlo/arteta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 @,All that suggest's is Robbie is a very clever man altering his tactics depending on our opponent's strength. If AVB did that more often he would still be manager here.Yes there be the occasional tactical fuck up (ie QPR) but in general im more than happy with what i have seen from Robbie in the tactical side of things.Based on whether Robbie is the man to lead us long term, there does seem to be a lot of fate in how Robbie has got where he is today.Roman delaying AVB's sacking hoping he will turn it around, he sacks AVB a week after Hiddink (who would have almost certainly got the job if he was free) took the Anzhi job.Roman has gone through numerous high profile manager's in an attempt to win the Champions League but who finally delivers it? the Chelsea legend who really got the job by default.Robbie was never a Roman man so to speak, if Robbie does end up being the long term manager craved as this club then it is to quote Neville written in the stars.I am not sure we can compare RDM this season to AVB last season. We are absolutely loaded this season with quality+different players in every position so RDM can easily tinker his team for different opp. However I agree that RDM is more reactive maanger than AVB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beirut_Blues 306 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 fukken brilliant robdog hahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 fukken brilliant robdog hahaaActually thank both @manwereCFC @Markyc118 on twitter - I got the pict from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 It's still early days mate. Still early days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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