Leif 6,006 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 How one fan reacted to the loss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 It was bad enough getting ripped apart by Juventus..and in 5 days, we have to play Citeh..who continue to play poorly yet they get the results cause they have strikers that can score the decisive goal.Playing City was the last thing we needed right now. Hopefully they get a lot of injuries against Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Fair play to RDM for having the balls to drop Torres and play Hazard as the false nine, if he put away that chance and we held out people out be calling it a masterstroke. Also Juventus aren't Stoke, they are a top top side and very good at home, If they can beat Shaktar no one would want them in the second round.We missed Terry at the back tonight, Luiz and Cahill offer no leadership or organisational abillties, the only time they've played well together is when they have 8 others with them in defence. I'm not worried about us going out of the Champions League group stages, City and United did it last year, I am worried at the fact that we're forced to play Hazard upfront because we have no other option.#Pray4FalcaoAgree, I have no problem with RDM decision on dropping Torres, and we going out of group stages. In two games we played against juve and shaktar, I thought they were the better team.I think this is a good wake up call, we keep calling ourselves champions of europe but we have to realize the way we won it last year. We need to be patient with our team and manager.Having said that, I don't think RDM will be our manager next year if we don't at least have a chance to win EPL in the end of the season. The board gave him a 2 year contract and that shows that this season is his trial season for long term contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 We might still go through so... Oh man. You don't know Juve. Something tells me they are gonna have some kind of deal with Shakhtar Like a tie or something Being such a Mafia again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblues_03 2 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 this result is very dissapointing. i just want us to win next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Luiz seems to be the scapegoat of every bad defensive performance from the team.He was good today by his awful standards.Everyone was very inconsistent in the back.Mikel was just awful, I swear he keeps walking on the pitch.We need a good DM just as much as a striker.Very good today?, did you watch the game?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 If we do go out of the Champions League, then I think we deserved it. We have not played convincingly at all in any of the 5 games till now and defensively, we just look woeful and all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 If we do go out of the Champions League, then I think we deserved it. We have not played convincingly at all in any of the 5 games till now and defensively, we just look woeful and all over the place.Even if we go through we dont deserve it. We blew a 2-0 lead at home, we got outplayed in both Shakthar games, lost 3-0 to Juve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Tinkering with a transitional team for me is the worst mistake a manager can achieve. Settled Teams like juventus/barca/madrid/bayern have played a similar line up week in week out and they don't complain of fatigue y not us even mourinho hardly tinkered while at chelsea hence the telepathic understanding of cech terry lamps and drogba. We get scared of fatigue too much. If at all we want to rest players or make a change at least one or two is ok not 5 or 6 in consecutive games. We should always start with our defined line up and personnel and if during the game they get tired then we can substitute. I don't buy the idea that because we draw or loose a match or two then we should change our formation, personnel or even strategy(except its barca). The formation and personnel we used against spurs, arsenal, manu and liverpool(but for the defense) is obviously our best and should not be tinkered with for any reason when fit. This will bring about more understanding within the team. Sorry to say but if torres isn't scoring or is fatigued then put sturridge in and rotate instead of changing the whole squad for the next game why not make one or two. This tinkering is really getting on my nerves..why did we set up to defend when we know we no longer have a clinical striker or finisher upfront how do we expect to score???.we have the personnel to create nothing less than 10 to 15 chances per game yet we want to defend when it has never worked this season. Against athletico, shakhtar(away),juve(home and away), swansea(away)...I just think the british media is gettn into RDM's head which is confusing him the more. I honestly think if we had played the team(formation) we used vs liverpool we would have been better off and we should from now on yes we might have been outplayed but we still would have had a lot of our chances because of our attackers but to defend and still concede three without reply is an insult to chelsea once again just like against athletico. RDM should make up his mind attack or defense what is his way forward...pls no tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Even if we go through we dont deserve it. We blew a 2-0 lead at home, we got outplayed in both Shakthar games, lost 3-0 to Juve.You're just repeating what I said except you are phrasing it the other way round...The key game was definitely the first game against Juventus. Had we seen the game out against Juventus at home, the situation would have been so different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 RDM might not be the greatest tactican, but he has the respect of the players and fans. For people saying he should have brought in another striker, we know he has nothing to do with transfers and seeing as he wasn't first choice for the job in the first place, he couldn't go around making demands, besides, we know the problem was noted as we tried to bring in Loric Remy on deadline day. We're in a bad run of form, Juventus are on fire, no complaints, they are the better team. People need to remember we have alot of new young players and they need time, we don't suddenly turn into world beaters overnight. These are the hard facts, We finished SIXTH in the Premiership last season. We're lucky to be in this conpetition and we came up against a top team and lost, I don't know why thats such a suprise. If RDM is sacked on the basis of this it will be an outrage to the club and epotimize everything thats wrong with modern football.Stability = Long term succes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Very good today?, did you watch the game?.His worst game in the season, he looked unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 You're just repeating what I said except you are phrasing it the other way round...The key game was definitely the first game against Juventus. Had we seen the game out against Juventus at home, the situation would have been so different!LOLIt is true, thought you said something else. #shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,507 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 RDM might not be the greatest tactican, but he has the respect of the players and fans. For people saying he should have brought in another striker, we know he has nothing to do with transfers and seeing as he wasn't first choice for the job in the first place, he couldn't go around making demands, besides, we know the problem was noted as we tried to bring in Loric Remy on deadline day.We're in a bad run of form, Juventus are on fire, no complaints, they are the better team. People need to remember we have alot of new young players and they need time, we don't suddenly turn into world beaters overnight.These are the hard facts, We finished SIXTH in the Premiership last season. We're lucky to be in this conpetition and we came up against a top team and lost, I don't know why thats such a suprise. If RDM is sacked on the basis of this it will be an outrage to the club and epotimize everything thats wrong with modern football.Stability = Long term succesStability with the correct type of manager = Long term success.I'm not sure if RDM is the correct type of manager for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdrog 18 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 dont want to see benitez anywhere near sb :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdrog 18 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Very good today?, did you watch the game?. i think luiz did well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 i think luiz did wellSame, he played really well, just a shame he was incredibly shit, but besides that good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimessid 7 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 This is all intentional. Roman wants to win Europa League, as we won the Champions League already Probably the most undeserved 3-0 win in history. OK our finishing and defence was poor, but Juve were just as bad. Giovinco's goal was their only shot on goal they did not fuck up completely. With Terry's leadership in defence and Lampard's finishing we would have thrashed them easily with the chances we created. Such a redundant but expected result considering we do the same mistakes all over again in every game. U can play crap only if u got luck on your side but we are chelsea nd we seldom haveSometimes I'm just surprised by people really...incredible, in the second half, without counting our 2 goals, we've had an incredible chance with Vucinic from 8 m, another shot from Vucinic, another chance with Pirlo. Can you just give one time, just ONE time where Chelsea did a shot on goal in the secondo half ?? NO, because their wasn't a single time where the blues did something dangerous in the last 45 minutesLet's talk about the first half now.... to our first chance with Lishteiner (the poste), you've risponded with an amazing chance of Hazard, then we had another great chance with Marchisio (miraculous save of Cech), a chance for quagliarella,Oscar responded with a good opportunity, then our first goal, one minute after the goal we had another amazing chance with lischteiner with your defenders saving the ball on the line, after that a great chance for Mata.....the first half was equilibrated, so a draw would have been more fair but in the second half you disappeared, we didn't let you play, while in the first half i almost had a cardiac arrest 2 or 3 times, in the second part of the game I was calm and never got scared, because we were controlling the matchin the entire game, Chelsea had 2 great chances: Hazard and Mata, and according to UEFA stats we've had 26 shots against 12 , and 15 shots on target against 6.Every body is talking about a Juventus that smashed Chelsea, and reading your comment is absolutely incredible.You must take off the mask of a supporter and try to be objective, but I have to say that I am not sure if we are going to pass this group stage, and if we don't , I am proud of the players, because today they played very well against a great team of Chelsea (I think that you need a more courageous manager, a one that wants his team to play the ball, and not just defend and wait for Mata-Oscar-Hazard to do something)if we pass, we'll deserve it, if you pass, you'll deserve it, good luck for your last game (saying that you're already eliminated is wrong, because in the CL, you never know what might happen)I'm sorry for my english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 "What's the Mata Chelsea fans? Did you Cech the score? I know, it is a Hazard. You must be Terryfied now Juve's performance deserves an Oscar:):)" manu-fans have started !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Sometimes I'm just surprised by people really...incredible, in the second half, without counting our 2 goals, we've had an incredible chance with Vucinic from 8 m, another shot from Vucinic, another chance with Pirlo. Can you just give one time, just ONE time where Chelsea did a shot on goal in the secondo half ?? NO, because their wasn't a single time where the blues did something dangerous in the last 45 minutesLet's talk about the first half now.... to our first chance with Lishteiner (the poste), you've risponded with an amazing chance of Hazard, then we had another great chance with Marchisio (miraculous save of Cech), a chance for quagliarella,Oscar responded with a good opportunity, then our first goal, one minute after the goal we had another amazing chance with lischteiner with your defenders saving the ball on the line, after that a great chance for Mata.....the first half was equilibrated, so a draw would have been more fair but in the second half you disappeared, we didn't let you play, while in the first half i almost had a cardiac arrest 2 or 3 times, in the second part of the game I was calm and never got scared, because we were controlling the matchin the entire game, Chelsea had 2 great chances: Hazard and Mata, and according to UEFA stats we've had 26 shots against 12 , and 15 shots on target against 6.Every body is talking about a Juventus that smashed Chelsea, and reading your comment is absolutely incredible.You must take off the mask of a supporter and try to be objective, but I have to say that I am not sure if we are going to pass this group stage, and if we don't , I am proud of the players, because today they played very well against a great team of Chelsea (I think that you need a more courageous manager, a one that wants his team to play the ball, and not just defend and wait for Mata-Oscar-Hazard to do something)if we pass, we'll deserve it, if you pass, you'll deserve it, good luck for your last game (saying that you're already eliminated is wrong, because in the CL, you never know what might happen)I'm sorry for my englishYou lot were fully deserved of your win. Think it would have been different had Hazard scored but over the 90 mins you fully deserved it, your midfield and use of the wingbacks were excellent and controlled the game. Admittedly accept you were the better team on the night. Still think it is easily possible that you lose to Shakhtar but yes you summed it up quite well, if you pass you will deserve it, if we pass we will deserve it.The post you were referring to was probably made in anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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