We Hate Scouse 10,330 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Which god?God knows......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 God knows.........Could god make a videogame so hard that even god couldn't finish it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I really think Pep is one of the finest coaches out there. It would be huge if we get him. However, I believe RDM can do an amazing job if he stays for 4-5 years. I like everything about him; knowledge, serenity, player management, etc. Di Matteo lacks experience and we never expereinced him under huge pressure, but that will eventually come.I personally agree with what my professor once said: we should never change things if we arent 100% sure it will be better than what we have (I took it completely out of contest, but it works). So, right now, I think RDM is a better option.Though call though...RDM is doing a fine job right now, but it can change quickly.Dont need to wait 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Pretty laughable we are discussing this. He will go to United once SAF finally fucks off.United's playing style and players don't fit Guardiola at all.Chelsea in the other hand.......--Hazard----CF------Mata-------KDB---Mikel---Oscar----Could be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 RDM is doing a fine job right now, but it can change quickly.Dont need to wait 4 years.You, Peace and xPetrCechx clearly missunderstood. I said he can turn out to be amzing if he stays for 4-5 years. What does it have to do with what you said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,963 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I can imagine that Guardiola is like Carlo Ancelotti for Abramovich - a 'dream' man. So I assume he will come in one day, just like Ancelotti after years of speculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You, Peace and xPetrCechx clearly missunderstood. I said he can turn out to be amzing if he stays for 4-5 years. What does it have to do with what you said?He has 2 years in his contract to be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The fact many are considering in actually having Pep over here over RDM is at the highest order cringe worthy and plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The fact many are considering in actually having Pep over here over RDM is at the highest order cringe worthy and plastic.It's not remotely plastic. People want the best manager, Pep is by many accounts the best manager in the world. If he came and was successful then it's the direct opposite of being plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 He has 2 years in his contract to be amazing.Henrique, you have some serious problems. I will try to explain in portuguese...Eu falei que o RDM pode se tornar um tecnico brilhante daqui 4-5 anos, entendeu? O que isso tem a ver com o fato de ele ter que provar sua capacidade antes do contrato dele terminar ou antes dessa temporada terminar?Claro que ele tem que provar que pode treinar o Chelsea para o Roman extender seu contrato, mas eu falei que acho que se o Di Matteo ficar por a longo prazo, ele pode acabar provando ser um excelente tecnico daqui uns 4-5 anos.I am not saying your argument isnt right, but it has nothing to do with what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 He doesn't have any credit for bringing out the talent in Barca's powerful trio, He might not have promoted Xavi, Iniesta and Messi but he took them up an extra few levels, he made them what they are.Xavi and Iniesta were reguarly on the bench under Rijkaard, including the 2006 CL final when only Iniesta came on.Messi was a young talent under the Dutchman, but it was Pep who made him the worldbeater he is today.Don't get me wrong i want us to stick with RDM, but this myth going around that Pep was an lucky passenger on the Barca train is worse than the myth that Drogba was crap in his first two season's at Chelsea, the guy is genius, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Henrique, you have some serious problems. I will try to explain in portuguese...Eu falei que o RDM pode se tornar um tecnico brilhante daqui 4-5 anos, entendeu? O que isso tem haver com o fato de ele ter que provar sua capacidade antes do contrato dele terminar ou antes dessa temporada terminar?Tudo a ver (haver é errado para esse caso). O tópico era sobre o Guardiola, que supostamente está interessado em se tornar técnico do Chelsea em pouco tempo, então você disse que o RDM poderia se tornar um treinador brilhante em 4 ou 5 anos. O Chelsea poderia se dar ao luxo de deixar o Guardiola escapar apostando que o RDM vai ser um cara brilhante em 4 ou 5 anos?No seu próprio post você citou uma filosofia de vida do seu professor, e a única maneira de você ter 100% de certeza que trocar o RDM pelo Guardiola seria um mal negócio, seria se o italiano fizesse um trabalho sensacional nesses 2 anos que ele tem de contrato. Aí sim teríamos um situação de trocar o certo pelo duvidoso. Atualmente RDM também é uma aposta, que mesmo tendo ganhado uma UCL ainda gera desconfiança em boa parte da imprensa e em boa parte da torcida. Guardiola por outro lado é um dos técnicos mais desejados do mundo. RDM tem essa temporada para mostrar que não é mera aposta, que é um cara em quem se vale a pena investir. Guardiola já provou que é. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Why do some posters insist on bringing Torres into every thread? We have a thread dedicated to him in the Player Database section, so if you want to criticise him, do it there.I'm pointing out that it's ridiculous to even think about managerial changes if we've got players in the squad who don't give a damn if we win or lose, to put it lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Tudo a ver (haver é errado para esse caso). O tópico era sobre o Guardiola, que supostamente está interessado em se tornar técnico do Chelsea em pouco tempo, então você disse que o RDM poderia se tornar um treinador brilhante em 4 ou 5 anos. O Chelsea poderia se dar ao luxo de deixar o Guardiola escapar apostando que o RDM vai ser um cara brilhante em 4 ou 5 anos?No seu próprio post você citou uma filosofia de vida do seu professor, e a única maneira de você ter 100% de certeza que trocar o RDM pelo Guardiola seria um mal negócio, seria se o italiano fizesse um trabalho sensacional nesses 2 anos que ele tem de contrato. Aí sim teríamos um situação de trocar o certo pelo duvidoso. Atualmente RDM também é uma aposta, que mesmo tendo ganhado uma UCL ainda gera desconfiança em boa parte da imprensa e em boa parte da torcida. Guardiola por outro lado é um dos técnicos mais desejados do mundo. RDM tem essa temporada para mostrar que não é mera aposta, que é um cara em quem se vale a pena investir. Guardiola já provou que é.1. Voce inverteu a citaçao do meu professor (que nao tem qualquer relaçao com a filosofia de vida dele), ele disse que nao é para se fazer uma troca se voce nao tem 100% de certeza que essa troca sera melhor do que ja existe.2. Eu disse que o RDM, caso permaneça no CFC, se tornará um brilhante tecnico no futuro (4-5 anos).3. O Di Matteo esta fazendo um otimo trabalho (até o momento).4. Sucesso no Barcelona nao garante sucesso na Inglaterra. Guardiola só teve o Barcelona como teste. Nao da pra ter certeza de que ele prosperara de novo (ai que entra meu professor).5. Eu acredito no Pep, mas ainda nao estou convencido que ele é uma melhor opçao que o RDM. Por isso, ainda nao acredito que o Pep é a escolha certa no momento. Teremos que esperar a temporada se desenrolar.6. Haver está totalmente errado, culpe o Ipad que troca as palavras automaticamente... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm pointing out that it's ridiculous to even think about managerial changes if we've got players in the squad who don't give a damn if we win or lose, to put it lightly.Not really a Torres defender but you're taking what he said out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Not really a Torres defender but you're taking what he said out of context.I'm sorry if I come across like that but it's not even what he has or hasn't said in his interviews, I also take into account his body language shown on the pitch and it says "I don't give a damn", for me he is a closed folder. There's nothing to make me re-evaluate that fact. Even if he does go on a goal scoring spree, the question for me will be "for how long?" I admit I might be biased but we are all entitled for an opinion. I respect yours, so no offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 @Henrique, @Rmpr, English ONLY please. If you want to discuss something in Portuguese, feel free to make use of the PM system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 This is just too much a discussion for a Marca "piece" that some spanish journo put together out of thin air while he was in between cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 @Rmpr,How do you know RDM will become a brilliant manager in 4-5 years? That's just estimation.I'd never say no to Pep or Jose..but RDM won the UCL so deserves the chance to coach Chelsea until the end of his current deal.If RDM does well enough, Abramovich will keep him on board...if he doesn't meet Abramovich's standards, then maybe we'll see a new manager at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 @CHOULO19, relax...I startaed it because I could express myself better in portuguese, since he was not understanding. It has ended already!@Reddish-Blue, However, I believe RDM can do an amazing job if he stays for 4-5 years. I like everything about him; knowledge, serenity, player management, etc. Di Matteo lacks experience and we never expereinced him under huge pressure, but that will eventually come. I do not know, I believe he will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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