Strike 7,490 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 first halfsecond halfsums up the game, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Nation 0 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Very disappointed, hope this does not become a "slump". Its always a disgrace to concede a 2 goal lead, but we were completely outplayed in midfield at times in the second half, mikel made far too many mistakes, torres is back to his usual useless self and ramires and ivanovic are so bad technically they are a dead end for our playJuve did nothing to deserve that draw, but I don't care, we got denied a penalty once agian as refs don't buy unfair tackles on hazard any more. I rather care aobut the bad mistakes we committed. Several players committed amateur errors. A.Cole, Oscar, Hazard were class, luiz, lamps, terry, cech and iva were okay but torres and Ramires were utter BS. Ramires is technically no match for a RW cause HE IS NO RW. Ivanovic also provided little help as he is technically limited, too. Torres does try but he again got "no service" as his runs were crap, he always was found in the channels or near the corner flags but never in the box. Lamps is missed in front even more than he is out of position in the pivot. No idea why we had no Moses to offer sth against the great and strong Asamoah, our right side was never really up to it.Nonetheless much better than against QPR we will demolish Stoke with a similar performance IF WE TAKE OUR CHANCES. Mata HAD to score or cross for torres who was completely free to wrap things up and there was a great chance by ramires were he decided to dribble instead of shooting. In european football u simply HAVE to defend a 2 goal lead at home. Imagine this in a k.o. game, it would be a horrific result. This game (once again ) showed1) RDM has to utilize the right players in THEIR position2) 4-2-3-1 with Ramy on the wing is crap3) Mikel is not that good4) Lamps should play more offensive or not at all5) Oscar is a gem and is fit for first-team action6) Torres is crap7) We need more quality in CM and ST8) Ivanovic is not that good9) Terry and Offside trap do not match10) There's an awful lot of work to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Anyone got a .gif of Oscars and Luiz' celebration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 We'll get better and better hopefully but the signs so far are good. We need to be able to close out games much better though while finding the right balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Loosing the lead in the last 10min is so AVB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Anyone got a .gif of Oscars and Luiz' celebration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaabbbb 0 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 A draw that satisfied me.Chelsea players amazed me, Oscar, Hazard 'n Mata are execeptional chiampions, Ivanovic and Cole wins against Asamoah and Lich...thats the origin of our big trouble in the first time.Oscar made Pirlo starve 90% of the match (i typed yesterday thar i was worried from the man...he really need a stop, seems very tired)Marchisio and Vidal saved the day, we are a diffuclt team to defeat, but yesterday we come very close to itChelsea will make more points againg shakstar and njordafellas, im pretty sure of it, but i will bet on juve winning the return in Turin. See ya that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 be happy, manure could barely beat a turkish team @ home, we dominated a good portion of this game, the italian champions.Yeah...but at the end day, they got the 3 points, we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Fair result and a good performance. It does feel like 2 points dropped although tbh we were a bit lucky to find ourselves 2-0 up after a deflection and a wonder goal (take a bow Oscar). But I thought overall Juve were the better side. The positive from the game was definitely our style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Our Brazilian boys need to stop that dancing celebration after scoring a goal. Twice they done it in the Champions League, twice we ended up throwing away leads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdrog 18 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 We'll get better and better hopefully but the signs so far are good. We need to be able to close out games much better though while finding the right balance.looking at the the recent games, RDM is blowing it. Why have we been so unlucky when it comes to managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdrog 18 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 A few points I have to make.If Oscar hasn't given himself a reason to start I don't know what else will make RDM see that he should. First goal took a favorable touch but the second goal was, mwah! beautiful, goal of beauty, rounded pirlo and gave buffon 0 chance. He also did a lovely job of keeping pirlo quiet, the minute he came off pirlo had more breathing room. I would have given him a solid A or A+Ramires is no winger, while his turn of pace was good for some instances in the match once he gets into that final third he does not deliver, he does not cross overly well and his shot leaves something to be desired. Is this not why we got Moses, I just do not understand di matteo's insistence on either using Ramires on the wing or Bertrand. I just don't know what Robby sees in Bertrand, when he came on, chelsea lost control of the match.Cahill needs to start more often. I feel much much more confident about our defense when Cahill and Terry start. Cahill does not seem to have those lapses in concentration that Luiz has and he always seems to be keen not to let one in. At times in the match Luiz was either going after balls he had no chance of winning or just switched off. I really wish Cahill would play alongside Terry more often. They were outstanding last season playing together.Also, why in Heaven's name did we get Cesar if we are not going to use him? If Azpilicueta was played that would allow Ivanovic to play his natural role as a CB. Ivanovic rarely goes foward to help attack and made hazard look bad on the right. After selling both essien and meriles, i have no answer to how we resolve the double pivot unless we change to 4-3-3.Sigh, hope RDM makes some changes and at least starts Oscar and or Moses alongside Mata and Hazard. Hopefully we can return to winning ways against Stoke.STOP BLAMING LUIZ!!! It was your dear Terry's mistake and not Luiz's that cost us the goal. Luiz did his job pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdrog 18 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 this quote is not even visible in blue background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igi26 346 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Don't know how anyone can say Juventus were 'shit'. They bossed the second half. A draw is a very, very fair result.That is simply not true. We were all over Juve in 2nd half. Two individual mistakes costed us 3 points (Lampard, Terry). We were far better opponent than they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 That is simply not true. We were all over Juve in 2nd half. Two individual mistakes costed us 3 points (Lampard, Terry). We were far better opponent than they were.We were all over Juventus in the second half? What game were you watching? Second was even if not they were better. If anything we had the better of them in the first half particularly. We pressed them high up the pitch and they couldn't handled it. They ended up misplacing loads of passes. We had a number of good counter attacking chances as a result of that but failed to really make it count and we paid the price for it. The problems came when we started to sit back and allowed to control the game in the second half. And oh, it was Terry and Mikel's mistake for their second goal, not Terry and Lampard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 That is simply not true. We were all over Juve in 2nd half. Two individual mistakes costed us 3 points (Lampard, Terry). We were far better opponent than they were.Are you shitting me? What game were you watching?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Despite the usual hate from some i actually think Torres was okay (held the ball up, linked with midfield, jut needs to stay more central).Hazard wasn't great, Chiellini had him in his back pocket all night, but fair play his head never dropped and kept trying. Fair play to him.Oscar, finally!!! What a goal, that's the best one I've seen at the Bridge in years. Literally no words to describe it for me.I'm glad RDM mixed it up, shows he isn't a stubborn shit like AVB. Great managers generally mix up tactics to suit the occasion and he did that tonight. Let's not forget these guys have not lost in Italy in 42 games. They are a very good team.Mikel was pants (but hey I'm one of the not impressed) and Lampard was average (needs to concentrate on his positioning).All in all I'm happy with that, the late goal was upsetting but our response was to pin them back and look for a win. Been a while since we have done that against a good team, looks encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Og85uUtojs&feature=plcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 This is exactly it. We were almost always out-numbered in the midfield 5-4 which inevitably meant that someone was unmarked . http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2013/2009489_tl.pdf Our double pivot actually did quite well to limit Juve's chances despite being outnumbered Our advantage should have been to go wide and we tried it but our team is not really set up for that as Torres isn't a real target man and seems hesitant to get into the spaces he would need to get into to score and Ramires is not good at crossing to say the least. (His 33% passing rate today is just awful).Nice link (changed my perception of the game.), interesting to see how well Juventus held thier formation. We really should have exploited those flanks, instead our wide players are far to narrow. Need natural width, I'm looking at Marin and Moses.And yes we need to stop with the Ramirez out wide tactic. Think Moses has a good enough work ethic to track back and a lot more going forward. If his pass rate really was 33% then that's appalling. He isn't the best in possession, which is why it's 4-3-3 for me he can't play in the pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igi26 346 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 We were all over Juventus in the second half? What game were you watching? Second was even if not they were better. If anything we had the better of them in the first half particularly. We pressed them high up the pitch and they couldn't handled it. They ended up misplacing loads of passes. We had a number of good counter attacking chances as a result of that but failed to really make it count and we paid the price for it. The problems came when we started to sit back and allowed to control the game in the second half. And oh, it was Terry and Mikel's mistake for their second goal, not Terry and Lampard.It's just how I see it. We had more ball in our legs in 2nd half, they had 3 shoots on target (2 goals). Just to say to you, they were better only 10 minutes of the 2nd half when they scored and that is expected because goal shocked us. Nobody was expecting it, because we were in control.I meant for both goals, first one was Lampard error (He didn't close down Vidal) and second was from Terry. Yeah Mikel lost the ball, but Terry tried to do an offside trap and it didn't work.Are you shitting me? What game were you watching?!?We were brilliant last night and conceded two very very stupid goals. It just how I look at the game.RDM was again smart and waiting for counters (opposite of Atletico Madrid game) and that is just how we must play in order to win difficult games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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