cousin benson 76 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Lots of people criticising Torres, when he gets the ball there are 3-4 players around him. He's our only striker which puts too much pressure on him, so I think it's unfair to blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Good game from a neutral point, but disappointing for us not to get 3 points in the end. Pity really, but I thought the performance and commitment overall was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 it's simply unacceptable to throw away a 2-0 lead at home, now Oscar's goal is meaningless for me. it should have been the winnerpressure is on us now in the CL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousin benson 76 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 is Marin still injured? forgot about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Oscar is pure class ... Oscar, mata and hazard are a joy to watch... I'm happy for the Chelsea future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 did u hear our supporting on your stadium? In ours will be 10 times or even more loud, it won't be easy to win for Chelsea in Turin.Yes of course it will not be easy.The stadium is not a problem Chelsea has handled many hot stadiums.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 is Marin still injured? forgot about himNot really. Played 45 minutes in the U21 game against Liverpool last Friday. Not 100% fit just yet. Might get a start against Wolves in the League Cup next Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcojuve 0 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Juventus fan from the chelsea played a little better ... but the draw seemed right .. but this is not the juve tonight I know .. our players seemed a little intimidated in the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 please watch the game and not the dumb line-ups skysports comes up with!Eazy mate. I guess I am wrong then. so never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Cahill is our best CB, but RDM still prefers JT and Luiz to him.Disagree completely. Player market value sometimes speak the truth.The best defenders are Luiz (Brazil starter) and Terry (England starter). Besides, you've got take characteristics into account: Terry is slow, but great in the air and cover (composure) while Luiz is very pacey and skillful. There is a reason Cahill doesn't do forward runs like Luiz and it's not because he doesn't want to. The point being Cahill is a fine defender, but more like Terry than Luiz. So, I don't think Terry + Cahill is actually that great of a pair, especially if Chelsea want to play higher defense line and keep possession (which appears to be the case).Now, with all said and done, I cannot understand how people can question chelsea's back line, especially when attackers come pushing through the middle. The defense is fine as they were (all three) in CL last season. What needs adjusting still is the midfield--it's all in the midfield always unless your defense is allowing free headers etc. BTW, when you play more attacking minded players, your defense will naturally be more exposed (by math alone). Ins't it what chelsea fans wanted anyway?It was a tough game even at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Oscar looked brilliant. and he did well keeping pirlo out the game. really hope we see him starting a few more games now. stick mata on the right and Hazard on the left (if we have to paly the horrible 4-2-3-1).Ramires RW again...Mikel.... hes a tough one. i see mikel as someone i perosnally under rate. yes he made a mistake today, but otherwise hes pretty solid. ya there are better players than him, but at this club, i think hes best at that position.Lampard... again, looked the same as the past few games... need to slap rami/oriol there. or essien. i personally love essien there, great defensive mind.Im not upset with a point, its ok. but we could and should have taken all 3. but id now say a draw is minimal on the away game to them. i would like to see Cahill play a few more games. for either terry or luiz.Torres: i dont know what to say. i like him. i think his movement is good (lost a lot of pace recently) hes heavily marked out, and rarely gets the support. the counter attack doesnt work for him. and i feel his frustration. i honestly think any striker would struggle in that position at this club at the moment. I also think clubs no that torres gets easily frustrated so they mark him out. Using sturridge i think defenders will not see him as big a threat, and along with his energy and pace, would cause some immense problems for the opposition.this counter attack football is rubbish and i hate it. RDM needs to grow some balls and show a bit of faith in the team. his mentality is like what youd see from a newly promoted team. its too defensive! I can understand, it worked at the end of last season in the champions league, but we reliedo na lot of luck as well. Bertrand coming on for rami as well. wtf! our options in attack are insane and dangerous, he needs to use them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Disagree completely. Player market value sometimes speak the truth.The best defenders are Luiz (Brazil starter) and Terry (England starter). Besides, you've got take characteristics into account: Terry is slow, but great in the air and cover (composure) while Luiz is very pacey and skillful. There is a reason Cahill doesn't do forward runs like Luiz and it's not because he doesn't want to. The point being Cahill is a fine defender, but more like Terry than Luiz. So, I don't think Terry + Cahill is actually that great of a pair, especially if Chelsea want to play higher defense line and keep possession (which appears to be the case).Now, with all said and done, I cannot understand how people can question chelsea's back line, especially when attackers come pushing through the middle. The defense is fine as they were (all three) in CL last season. What needs adjusting still is the midfield--it's all in the midfield always unless your defense is allowing free headers etc. BTW, when you play more attacking minded players, your defense will naturally be more exposed (by math alone). Ins't it what chelsea fans wanted anyway?It was a tough game even at home. Luiz is a liability. Plays well in a game or two, then plays shit in 5 others. He was fully responsible for all four goals in the Super Cup game, and I'll never forgive him for that. I don't care if he's funny, or if he has curly hair, or if he's skillful. As a defender he's not good enough.And neither is Terry, not anymore. He was one of the best CB's in the world, and still is a great leader for the club, but as a defender Cahill is better than him. My opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Let's be real, had Quagliarella started the match instead of Giovinco, Juve would have been far more dangerous in the 1st half. Giovinco just can't handle defenders like ours (besides his poor shots). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousin benson 76 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Not really. Played 45 minutes in the U21 game against Liverpool last Friday. Not 100% fit just yet. Might get a start against Wolves in the League Cup next Wednesday.ah ok, will be good to see him. he looked good when we played in the states...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Lots of people criticising Torres, when he gets the ball there are 3-4 players around him. He's our only striker which puts too much pressure on him, so I think it's unfair to blame him.hey, many teams play with only one striker, It's torres job to make himself available. He simply becomes invisible in lenghty periods of the match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLenny 4 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The result is fair, but at that point of the game, up 2-0, if you're a great team, you simply have to win the game, there are no excuses.I definitely didn't like RDM tonight. And it's not the first time...I didn't like JT, Mikel and Torres, either.Oscar ... I KNEW he was going to score! I f***ing knew it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 ALL THE GOOD MOOD FROM OSCAR'S GOAL >>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Luiz is a liability. Plays well in a game or two, then plays shit in 5 others. He was fully responsible for all four goals in the Super Cup game, and I'll never forgive him for that. I don't care if he's funny, or if he has curly hair, or if he's skillful. As a defender he's not good enough.And neither is Terry, not anymore. He was one of the best CB's in the world, and still is a great leader for the club, but as a defender Cahill is bette than him. My opinion anyway.Yeah Chelsea defenders are really awful! Only Cahill is a genius who sits on the bench because every chelsea manager thinks Terry and Luiz are better... So, these guys won the CL last season, but you no longer think they are good because super-f*-cup game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Cahill is our best CB, but RDM still prefers JT and Luiz to him.I agree. Luiz on his day would edge Cahill for me but he is inconsistent at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I still dont know y rdm thinks playing ramires on the right is d best option . imo we lost todays game 0-2, but with a point. Reasons1. both of our goals were as result of individual brilliance from oscar so on another day we wont have any goals 2. Drogba spoilt us so now we play without a striker or at least not one the midfielders or coach recognize by playing ramires behind him inspite of moses or oscar, or by choosing not to feed the striker when it will result in an easy tap in.On other points:3. I think Mikel was our second best player in the first half and ramires gave the ball away 100 times more than mikel all over d pitch so no scape goating mikel 4. john terry was at fault 4 d second goal but otherwise had a good game5.RDM is a genius cause chelsea are actually improving as an attacking team inspite of individual errors, we are coping well with life after drogba because this was a big game 6. Lampard owns chelsea or so it seems 7. And lastly torres is okay as long as we play hazard mata oscar/moses behind him because that will b playing to his strength by providing him service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts