Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 You could make the same argument for Torres then. Especially since he'll by flying back from Puerto Rico.I did lol, that's a problem because Danny's hurt and then there's Torres' situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 That is just way too offensive and top heavy. Midfield will get overrun and leaving Mikel only to protect the back 4 is a disaster. Can already see what would happen when he is left alone there...More possession and control of the game. To be honest most often its us losing the ball because of stuipid mistakes that usually create most difficulties in the defense. I think we usually manage to defend quite well when the other team is starting their attack deep from their own side.And this commonly used sentance "the midfield will get overrun"... I dont quite buy that. Why would that midfield be overrun anymore than with Mikel and lampard in the double pivot? Lamps isnt a natural DM anyway and usually drift up often.Plus we'd be more offensive and probably score more goals.I don't necessarily think there is anything majorly wrong with the double pivot of Mikel and Lampard. Problem is the approach. In certain games, both have often run and press too high up the pitch like headless chickens without regards to the amount of space they left behind. If one press, the other has to be stay back and protect the defence. Otherwise, the opposition will just have a clear run on our back 4.Oh but there IS a huge problem, even if you fail to see it.1. Lampard isnt a DM and shouldnt play in the double pivot. Period.2. Our build-up play is horrible. We havent got a DM who is creative and that is creating difficulties linking the midfield and defense with the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chealsist 23 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 TORRES BACK IN TRACK.OUR MIDFIELDER ARE VERY FAST. 0:3 CHELSEA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Wigan, according to SSN have signed sriker Arouna Kone from Levante... Could be a sign Moses is on the way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yeah, Kone + Miyaichi in, Moses out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Oh but there IS a huge problem, even if you fail to see it.1. Lampard isnt a DM and shouldnt play in the double pivot. Period.Yes but as I said, it all depends on the approach. Last season, we pretty much went defensive with the 4-2-3-1 under RDM and the double pivot of Mikel and Lampard were discipline enough and it worked. Now, we try to be more offensive and expansive in our style of play and we're getting found out in that position.2. Our build-up play is horrible. We havent got a DM who is creative and that is creating difficulties linking the midfield and defense with the offense.Which is why it is much preferrable to have one defensive midfielder along with one deep lying playmaker in the double pivot that can keep the ball, control the game and dictate the tempo. Lampard can do that but only to a certain extent while the likes of Meireles, Essien, Ramires are all useless in that aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yes but as I said, it all depends on the approach. Last season, we pretty much went defensive with the 4-2-3-1 under RDM and the double pivot of Mikel and Lampard were discipline enough and it worked. Now, we try to be more offensive and expansive in our style of play and we're getting found out in that position.Which is why it is much preferrable to have one defensive midfielder along with one deep lying playmaker in the double pivot that can keep the ball, control the game and dictate the tempo. Lampard can do that but only to a certain extent while the likes of Meireles, Essien, Ramires are all useless in that aspect.I agree with u that typical double pivot consist of dlp and dm. On paper lampard + mikel fit that bill but on the field they don't look good. Lampard is supposed to be our dlp but his natural tendency is to go forward and this leaves us with only mikel who is very static and awful with the ball on his feet. Romeu has the potential to play in mikel position but I don't think he is part of rdm plan. A healthy essien is the perfect option but he looks slow since last year. And I just don't trust meireles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhonddaBlue88 14 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Think we should play this team: CechIvanovic Cahill Terry Cole Oscar LampardRamires Mata Hazard Torreswith mata and hazard swapping positions in like a free role! should be a fun game to watch:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Think we should play this team: CechIvanovic Cahill Terry Cole Oscar LampardRamires Mata Hazard Torreswith mata and hazard swapping positions in like a free role! should be a fun game to watch:)Suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Same starting line up as against Man City. Don't think Oscar's ready yet. We should be weary about Wigan bossing the midfield as they'll be playing 5 there as opposed to our 2. We need to play a little bit deeper regarding our front line... If we do that I think we'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhonddaBlue88 14 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Why would it be suicide lol? Get out there and attack! Take it to wigan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhonddaBlue88 14 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yeah oscar isn't quite ready yet but would be cool to see him play and show us what he can do! Yeah I agree itl most prob be same team as vs city would prefer meireles in midfield as opposed to mikel though! Or even essien! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Think we should play this team: CechIvanovic Cahill Terry Cole Oscar LampardRamires Mata Hazard Torreswith mata and hazard swapping positions in like a free role! should be a fun game to watch:)What Wigan are thinking right now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhonddaBlue88 14 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Lol very true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Lol very true!Put on a t-shirt mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 CechAzpilicueta - Cahill - Terry - ColeRamires - Essien - Lampard - HazardSturridge - TorresTorres and Sturridge wouldnt work at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Essien in midfield. God please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Ramires and Essien as CM. Mata infront. Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 1-1 DrawEdit. Who are the dumb fucks who continue to put Ramires at WR??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Put on a t-shirt mate!Put on a t-shirt?, mate you're acting like he's flashing a six pack off or something, you can clearly see he's having a laugh and messing about. He seems a very good supporter of Chelsea, he's in a supporter group as well. At least show some members some respect rather than trying to bully them, especially our good supporters of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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